Eagles Exec Takes Shots At Cowboys

[Joe Realist]

Does it really matter? 1995 might as well be 1960. Some are saying Eagles are on the decline. I say that we are looking at last place after this week and maybe when the season ends.

The RW trade was steep. We may realize it in a few years or we may win a Super Bowl. Gut reaction, too much, but it remains to be seen.

 

[DeadEagle]

None of that justifies an NFL exec taking shots at another ball club. When Jerry made a statement about the Houston Texans, the media jumped all over it, resulting in an apology from Jerry. Let's see if they criticize this Banner guy. NOT!

It's the Not Fair League sometimes.

 

[DeadEagle]

The RW trade was steep. We may realize it in a few years or we may win a Super Bowl. Gut reaction, too much, but it remains to be seen.

Winning a Super Bowl makes it worth the price.


You tell any fan, if he'd let go of those 3 draft picks for a player that gets the team a Super Bowl.... they make the deal 10 times out of 10.

That's the litmus test.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

We also know that Eagles don't like to play their players either....We also know that the Eagle trophy case is empty so does he really have any right to talk trash!!!!!!

 

[CrazyCowboy]

wow......let us have it!

 

[Mash]

I dont understand the significance of winning a lousy playoff game?

Would it be better if we won a lousy playoff game and got knocked out the following week? Would that really make this a better ball club? A better organization? A better run team?

IMHO.....winning then losing in the playoffs and finishing 8-8 and missing the playoffs is the same difference.....

All that really matters is....winning the Super Bowl.

So teams....like the Eagles....etc...can keep on winning playoff games but if they dont win the SB.....what have they really accomplished? IMHO..nothing...

Dallas went thru some tough years Just like the 49's...etc...dominating one decade...terriable the next......The Cowboys now have built a solid contender IMHO....but if they dont win a SB....then it doesnt matter how many playoffs games this team wins....does it?

Or will we be content to say....."at least we won a playoff game"?

Not me

 

[Stash]

Let me get this straight:

Joe Banner - the Ebeneezer Scrooge of the NFL - thinks the Cowboys overpaid for Roy Williams, saying so while making a statement that he and the Eagles tried, and failed to acquire Hall of Fame tight end Tony Gonzalez?

Shocking!

Even more shocking that the guy would mention the word Super Bowl.

After, what would you know about the subject Joe?

I'd be more interested in why you and the Birds didn't get Gonzalez?

Tell us about that.

No?

Well, let me tell you then.

You didn't get him for much the same reason you don't get any other deals done.

Because you're cheapskates who won't make a deal unless you feel you fleeced the other team.

Because you have to feel like you're the smartest guys in the room.

You know, the same reason you didn't get Roy Williams. The same reason you didn't get Tony Gonzalez. And the same reason you've still got a disgruntled Lito Sheppard on your team.

Because the only idiot stupid enough to agree to your ridiculous terms resides in Minnesota - for now.

 

[theebs]

Your last 5 years of first round draft picks....

2008
Felix Jones
Mike Jenkins

2007
Anthony Spencer

2006
Bobby Carpenter

2005
Demarcus Ware
Marcus Spears

2003
Terrence Newman


That's as good a haul as any team in the league. As good as your '05 draft was, the '04 draft was as poor as anything anybody has done the last 5 years. Lukily Patrick Crayton remains a bit player, otherwise it'd be disaster.

and again the core of this team is not from the first round.

nice way to duck your previous silly assesment.

 

[dstew60105]

Never mind the Super Bowls.

The point is that Jerry Jones let the DETROIT LIONS rob him blind. Three draft picks to rent a WR? Idiotic. Considering Williams was a free agent and was likely destined to Dallas in March anyway.... wow.

Really? I guess you've never heard of the franchise tag. It would have been applied in Roy's case.

 

[Joe Realist]

Winning a Super Bowl makes it worth the price.


You tell any fan, if he'd let go of those 3 draft picks for a player that gets the team a Super Bowl.... they make the deal 10 times out of 10.

That's the litmus test.

Like I said, remains to be seen.

 

[DeadEagle]

Really? I guess you've never heard of the franchise tag. It would have been applied in Roy's case.

They knew Roy wasn't part of any future plans in Detroit. Had he been, they wouldn't have traded him and used the tag, as you suggest.

 

[DeadEagle]

and again the core of this team is not from the first round.

nice way to duck your previous silly assesment.

Ask yourself where the team would be without those players.

 

[theebs]

Ask yourself where the team would be without those players.

lol

Your going to continue this, ok.

The same place we are today. Ware is tremendous, Newman, ellis, spears are good players. Anthony spencer is a role player who contributes on special teams. Bobby carpenter is a special teamer. Mike jenkins is an unkown as is felix jones. Felix jones looks to have all the tools to be outstanding.

But only newman and ware are in the core of this team. Carpenter, spears and ellis are in their final days as cowboys.

The core of this team is from late in the draft and the undrafted free agent market.

Your ridiculous assertion that this team was built on first rounders is off.

But your a tampa fan on a cowboys message board, so I am sure where you come from you are viewed as a cowboys expert. So please continue to give us lessons on our own team.

 

[Clove]

I think you've all covered it for me. Nothing more to say.

 

[hendog]

Your last 5 years of first round draft picks....

2008
Felix Jones
Mike Jenkins

2007
Anthony Spencer

2006
Bobby Carpenter

2005
Demarcus Ware
Marcus Spears

2003
Terrence Newman


That's as good a haul as any team in the league. As good as your '05 draft was, the '04 draft was as poor as anything anybody has done the last 5 years. Lukily Patrick Crayton remains a bit player, otherwise it'd be disaster.

Since we're talking about stellar drafts - how about yours.

In the last 5 drafts the bucs have had 47 total picks, 19 of which are on your current roster. We have had 38 picks in the last 5 years and 22 are on our active roster.

Included in those picks are WR's-
1st rder M. Clayton - bust
2nd rder D Jackson - jurys out
3rd rder M. Stovall - bust
5th rder L Brackins - bust
7th rder M. Jones - bust
7th rder P Warren - bust
7th rder JR Russell - bust

You may think we overpaid for Roy Williams (who already has 1 pro bowl to his credit, playing for the dreadful Lions) but I beg to differ.

I would certainly give up every WR you've drafted in the last 5 years for him.

 

[Clove]

Since we're talking about stellar drafts - how about yours.

In the last 5 drafts the bucs have had 47 total picks, 19 of which are on your current roster. We have had 38 picks in the last 5 years and 22 are on our active roster.

Included in those picks are WR's-
1st rder M. Clayton - bust
2nd rder D Jackson - jurys out
3rd rder M. Stovall - bust
5th rder L Brackins - bust
7th rder M. Jones - bust
7th rder P Warren - bust
7th rder JR Russell - bust

You may think we overpaid for Roy Williams (who already has 1 pro bowl to his credit, playing for the dreadful Lions) but I beg to differ.

I would certainly give up every WR you've drafted in the last 5 years for him.

Someone just got owned.:starspin

 

[Rack]

While I can appreciate Banner's "here and now" tone and he has a point that might make the Eagles riff-raff fanbase snicker, yes, we have not won a playoff game in over a decade.

But, apparently he has failed to look in the Eagles Trophy Case and see the complete lack of Lombardi Trophies.

:trophy:

 

[Oh_Canada]

The Eagles are having a case of sour grapes for losing out on the RW sweepstakes...you can take that to the bank.

 

[DeadEagle]

Since we're talking about stellar drafts - how about yours.

In the last 5 drafts the bucs have had 47 total picks, 19 of which are on your current roster. We have had 38 picks in the last 5 years and 22 are on our active roster.

We get our young guys in there and test their mettle. If they don't have it, they don't stay. No entitlement here pal.

We've drafted 10 starters in 5 years. And it's 10 backups on the roster.

Dallas has drafted 7 starters in 5 years, with 17 backups on roster.

Add that we also signed 4 undrafted free agents, 3 of which start and another who has been an outstanding special teamer and dime CB.


You want to talk draft smack, you better bring your a-game.

Included in those picks are WR's-
1st rder M. Clayton - bust
2nd rder D Jackson - jurys out
3rd rder M. Stovall - bust
5th rder L Brackins - bust
7th rder M. Jones - bust
7th rder P Warren - bust
7th rder JR Russell - bust

You may think we overpaid for Roy Williams (who already has 1 pro bowl to his credit, playing for the dreadful Lions) but I beg to differ.

I would certainly give up every WR you've drafted in the last 5 years for him.

Good thing we know that successful football teams start with the offensive line. The oldest player on our line is 27, and that is Jeff Faine. The rest may play another decade, and all drafted the last 3 years.

Your pathetic little defensive line is about to be introduced to them. They're a bad *** group, and you won't find it so funny when they start grinding it out. Ask the Seahawks. Or the Panthers or Packers.

Tanard Jackson, Jermaine Phillips, Aquib Talib, Gaines Adams, Barrett Ruud, Greg White, Elbert Mack.... your offense is in trouble too. Our back up safety, Sabby Piscitelli could start for you.


Yeah, the WR's we've drafted haven't panned out. But if that's the best taunt you have, I do feel sorry for you.

 

[DeadEagle]

Someone just got owned.:starspin

For a guy with 17,000 posts, you need to heed a special piece of advice.



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