Early projected Cowboys 53 roster?

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I don't think they carry 7 wr and I think they only carry two qb and ithink they carry 9 o line

My own list has more numbers on the offensive line as well. That's truly the engine that drives this entire thing and it's no coincidence that they've used most of the draft and cap resources there. I don't think they want to skimp there, and they continue to use resources to bolster it, even surprising virtually everyone by drafting McGovern with their own second pick this year. Not to mention the fact that they effectively won a "bidding war" for undrafted free agent tackle Mitch Hyatt. I think they're going to give him every chance to earn a roster spot.
 

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just a couple of weeks before Cowboys Training Camp opens, this is how i'm seeing the Cowboys 53 man roster at this very early point:
I'm still so back and forth with units such as WR, DL and safety. But this year there will be a position unit surprisingly more deeper than usual.

QB (3)
1 prescott
2 white
3 rush

RB (4)
4 elliott
5 pollard
6 weber
7 olawale (FB)

TE (3)
8 witten
9 jarwin
10 Schultz

WRs (7)
11 cooper
12 gallup
13 cobb
14 hurns
15 wilson
16 austin
17 Johnson

OL (8)
18 smith
19 williams
20 martin
21 fredrick
22 collins
23 mcGovern
24 Fleming
25 looney

DL (10)
26 dlaw
27 quinn
28 hill
29 woods
30 m. collins
31 crawford
32 hyder
33 gregory
34 covington
35 armstrong

LBs (6)
36 LVE
37 lee
38 jaylon
39 thomas
40 marcus lillard
41 covington

DBs (9)
42 jones
43 awuzie
44 brown
45 lewis
46 jackson
47 heath
48 woods
49 Oklla
50 wilson

specialists (3)
51 jones
52 mauher
53 LP Ladensaur
I think Weber doesn't make the team....and while I wish White and Rush the best I don't think are capable NFL QBs even in a back up role. We have to get better at evaluating QBs or go with experienced vets.
 

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Okay then if you don't want D-Jax then put Sua Filo in his place.

With prize rookie backup McGovern here now, sua filo will never hit the playing field now, that's an automatic game inactive for all 16+ games

and if looney sees any rep at OG this summer that would add to even more of a difficult numbers game vs sua filo who struggled in pass protection the more the season progressed.
 

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With prize rookie backup McGovern here now, sua filo will never hit the playing field now, that's an automatic game inactive for all 16+ games

and if looney sees any rep at OG this summer that would add to even more of a difficult numbers game vs sua filo who struggled in pass protection the more the season progressed.
Then put D Jax in that's fine. Unless you want to keep Olumba and entertain BJ trades.
 

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I'm betting there are at least two players not currently on the roster who will be on the 53

Namely a QB and SAF/TE


But to comment on the OP

Jackson likely makes it over Weber due to ST, Weber might make it to PS might not. Scarborough made it for a little then got scooped.

Agree with the consensus that we don't carry both White and Rush, but possible we carry White and a vet.

Think XSF makes it over either Wilson or Johnson, and I hope to goodness it isn't Wilson.

Lastly, think Gregory makes it over Hyder, and either Taco or Armstrong are cut.
 
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Folks. We aren't cutting Taco after two seasons.

And we very likely hang on the Crawford. He's a team leader and a very useful part of the DL rotation. We've got lower price guys that will eventually replace him. If anything, I expect that we might work on an extension for him that looks like what we did with Free (i.e., more years at a lower, but guaranteed salary).

Hurns? He's going to get asked to take a paycut.
 

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Folks. We aren't cutting Taco after two seasons.

And we very likely hang on the Crawford. He's a team leader and a very useful part of the DL rotation. We've got lower price guys that will eventually replace him. If anything, I expect that we might work on an extension for him that looks like what we did with Free (i.e., more years at a lower, but guaranteed salary).

Hurns? He's going to get asked to take a paycut.

I don't think we'd cut Taco, but a trade is possible. Normally this wouldn't be my thinking, but after him being in the dog house last season with coaching staff I could see it.

I'd love for Hurns to take a paycut, extend Crawford at a more appropriate CAP hit. Then extend Cooper and Dak(and possibly Byron) to lower Cooper's CAP hit and make Dak's AAV around 9th highest amongst QBs, instead of 3rd-4th if we wait until next season.
 

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Folks. We aren't cutting Taco after two seasons.

And we very likely hang on the Crawford. He's a team leader and a very useful part of the DL rotation. We've got lower price guys that will eventually replace him. If anything, I expect that we might work on an extension for him that looks like what we did with Free (i.e., more years at a lower, but guaranteed salary).

Hurns? He's going to get asked to take a paycut.

I would have thought if the Cowboys were insistent on Hurns taking a pay cut they would have already done so back in May vs being so close to camp. Dtto with Crawford
I tend to believe they value both Crawford and Hurns and I see them making the team

Much has been talked about Taco being inactive due to his attitude primarily he thinks because he's a former number one that he may feel entitled and put it in cruise control level that drew ire from the coaches.

Who knows if it's an attitude or the shoulder injury he had but I don't get the feeling that they think he's the future right now
So should taco have a free roster ride simply because he's entitled as a former number one draft pick?
 

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Then put D Jax in that's fine. Unless you want to keep Olumba and entertain BJ trades.

Imo, I thought If they really like Darius Jackson that much
I don't think they would have ever drafted a backup running back
much less two backup running backs in the same draft
 

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I think Weber doesn't make the team....and while I wish White and Rush the best I don't think are capable NFL QBs even in a back up role. We have to get better at evaluating QBs or go with experienced vets.

If Weber can show good run instincts between the tackles as he is said to have
and he shows the burst in and out of holes and works on special teams I think there's a good chance he makes the team.
what if Pollard gets nicked and dinged ? who is next in line?
now as far as being game active that could be another matter for Weber.
 

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just a couple of weeks before Cowboys Training Camp opens, this is how i'm seeing the Cowboys 53 man roster at this very early point:
I'm still so back and forth with units such as WR, DL and safety. But this year there will be a position unit surprisingly more deeper than usual.

QB (3)
1 prescott
2 white
3 rush

RB (4)
4 elliott
5 pollard
6 weber
7 olawale (FB)

TE (3)
8 witten
9 jarwin
10 Schultz

WRs (7)
11 cooper
12 gallup
13 cobb
14 hurns
15 wilson
16 austin
17 Johnson

OL (8)
18 smith
19 williams
20 martin
21 fredrick
22 collins
23 mcGovern
24 Fleming
25 looney

DL (10)
26 dlaw
27 quinn
28 hill
29 woods
30 m. collins
31 crawford
32 hyder
33 gregory
34 covington
35 armstrong

LBs (6)
36 LVE
37 lee
38 jaylon
39 thomas
40 marcus lillard
41 covington

DBs (9)
42 jones
43 awuzie
44 brown
45 lewis
46 jackson
47 heath
48 woods
49 Oklla
50 wilson

specialists (3)
51 jones
52 mauher
53 LP Ladensaur


No way we have 7 WR with the rookie RB that can catch out of the backfield.
There will likely be 4 TEs on the roster.
 

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If Weber can show good run instincts between the tackles as he is said to have
and he shows the burst in and out of holes and works on special teams I think there's a good chance he makes the team.
what if Pollard gets nicked and dinged ? who is next in line?
now as far as being game active that could be another matter for Weber.
Weber isnt going to replace what Pollard can do as a change of pace to Zeke nor in the return game.
 

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Don't need an extra LB when you're primarily running 4-2-5, 3-2-6 or 4-1-6.

If McClain wants to come back, you can stash Covington on the practice squad. Else, leave that alone. Sua-Filo can take Darius Jackson's spot. But agreed no need for 3 QBs. Pooper Flush on the PS or just cut.
Betcha Purple Drank weighs 350 pounds right now.
 

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Weber isnt going to replace what Pollard can do as a change of pace to Zeke nor in the return game.

never did i come even close to implying anything differently, but what im saying is Weber could be the further depth we need behind both zeke and Pollard,.

....and again, should Pollard get hurt, who is next in line ?
 

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No way we have 7 WR with the rookie RB that can catch out of the backfield.
There will likely be 4 TEs on the roster.

despite Tavons injury prone trend and his questionable hands as a receiver/punt returner, what is making me still think about
his chances of possibily making the team,
1) he possesses the blistering speed and open field skills Kellen is looking for in this offense
2) should Pollard get injured, he becomes your 2nd gimmick guy.
3) he is an electric punt return (ala Seattle playoff game)
4) Austin is on a 1 year contract that is fairly inexpensive
5) Pollard has little to zero experience as a PUNT returner, (only 2 career PR at memphis st.) a far cry from his dynamic KO skills

As far as a 4th TE, Kellen may prefer more the 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, and 3 WR) than the traditional Garrett/Linehan age ..and we could be moving away from 12 personnel (2 TE set) more so. That may not called for as many as 4 TEs on the roster.
 

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never did i come even close to implying anything differently, but what im saying is Weber could be the further depth we need behind both zeke and Pollard,.

....and again, should Pollard get hurt, who is next in line ?
IMO Weber is a project at best which is why he lasted to the 7th. If he is our insurance for if someone goes down we are in trouble.
 

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I would have thought if the Cowboys were insistent on Hurns taking a pay cut they would have already done so back in May vs being so close to camp. Dtto with Crawford
I tend to believe they value both Crawford and Hurns and I see them making the team

Much has been talked about Taco being inactive due to his attitude primarily he thinks because he's a former number one that he may feel entitled and put it in cruise control level that drew ire from the coaches.

Who knows if it's an attitude or the shoulder injury he had but I don't get the feeling that they think he's the future right now
So should taco have a free roster ride simply because he's entitled as a former number one draft pick?

Crawford is more likely in line for a cut next year.

Hurns is a situation that often plays out near cut down. The team is going to see if he's getting beat out or not. If he's earned a roster spot, he's likely going to be the 4th or 5th WR (barring injury). That's when we approach him about a paycut as we've got good leverage and won't be crying if he says no. We can literally tell the guy, take a pay cut or get cut at that point.

Also, since he's returning from injury, he's not cleared to play yet so he can't be cut.

Do recall re: Taco that both Jones and Garrett expressed some frustration over Marinelli's deactivation of Taco. DEs often take a while to develop. Cutting a first round talent after two years is just stoopid.
 

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I'll do one after our first preseason game. I want to see what guys like Jon'Vea Johnson, Mitch Hyatt, and Donovan Wilson do.
 

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Keep hope alive!
:flagwave:

It sickens me that people will cry about how much we have to pay Dak, Amari, and Zeke - guys who have actually, ya know, earned it - but everybody is OK with grossly overpaying guys like Crawford and Hurns.

:facepalm:
I've been saying this for years about Tyrone....He makes 9 million a year. He is probably our #4 DE (#3 if Randy doesn't play). Some others: Hurns (6 million for a #4 receiver) and Fleming (3.7 million for a backup tackle). Almost 20 mil a year wasted right there.
 
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