Eisen - How can the Cowboys ultimately win the Micah Parsons trade?

[OGSixshooter]

I thought Jerry wanted to sell tickets?

Jerry often works at cross purposes. The blind squirrel found a nut.

 

[jazzcat22]

Right in that being named All-Pro means nothing? Please stop. That is a comment that when called out, the person who said it should just slowly slink away from the stage and pretend no one noticed they said it. Not doing so just ensures that it follows you (and it will, lol).

My stalker is at it again.

 

[MarcusRock]

My stalker is at it again.

Changing the subject is only slightly less effective than slinking away but a strategy nonetheless. Lol.

 

[jazzcat22]

Changing the subject is only slightly less effective than slinking away but a strategy nonetheless. Lol.

 

[Diehardblues]

It’s not that your opinion of Micah is discredited. It’s just hard to take it serious on Quinnen. I have no doubt in my mind you know Cowboys players.

I understand. And even though I was familiar with Q I haven’t seen him play that many games. Just don’t watch the Jets much.

My argument was centered more around Parsons ; the impacts and results of trade.

The only issue I addressed with Q is fact he didn’t bring as much draft capital as Parsons which lessened his value. I’m not really in a position to address his talent level. I don’t claim to be an expert.

But obviously if he brought a 1st and 2nd round pick he’s close . It was more of a technicality with me on that particular issue.

In the end the results of the trade are still outstanding pending the draft , the results and impacts thereof.

I like that we used one of those 1st round picks on Q. Surely better than we would have drafted . Now whether it was worth not having a 2nd day pick as well time will tell. I don’t have a crystal ball.

Again it all rides on the results in upcoming seasons . For now, we wasted or derailed one season on the trade IMO.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I understand. And even though I was familiar with Q I haven’t seen him play that many games. Just don’t watch the Jets much.

My argument was centered more around Parsons ; the impacts and results of trade.

The only issue I addressed with Q is fact he didn’t bring as much draft capital as Parsons which lessened his value. I’m not really in a position to address his talent level. I don’t claim to be an expert.

But obviously if he brought a 1st and 2nd round pick he’s close . It was more of a technicality with me on that particular issue.

In the end the results of the trade are still outstanding pending the draft , the results and impacts thereof.

I like that we used one of those 1st round picks on Q. Surely better than we would have drafted . Now whether it was worth not having a 2nd day pick as well time will tell. I don’t have a crystal ball.

Again it all rides on the results in upcoming seasons . For now, we wasted or derailed one season on the trade IMO.

I agree. We did. But is the season a waste if we bring back Micah?

 

[Diehardblues]

I agree. We did. But is the season a waste if we bring back Micah?

We’ll never know . But I think most would argue it probably derailed the defense and possibly the season early on.

 

[dreghorn2]

No, you’re just trying to discredit my opinion on Parsons cause not familiar with Sauce. I’m assuming didn’t have anything else to counter with.

Not sure why that matters. Has no relevance on discussion. Diehard Cowboy fans don’t have to know players from all the teams. I was honest in the discussion. I could have looked him up and provided an unknowledgable opinion on him.

If you don’t like or agree with my opinion, offer a civil rebuttal or move on instead of personal insults which basically means you concede the argument.

My rebuttal, if you require one, is that you are making statements about Parsons that he is generational, the trade was lop sided and that the Cowboys had a shot at the playoffs if he played for them.

How can you form an opinion if you don't watch or follow the NFL? It appears you only watch Cowboys games and apparently not very closely because we played the Jets and Gardner this year.

How can you claim that the Cowboys might have made the playoffs with Parsons when you don't have a way to compare teams and players across the league because you don't know them.

I don't have a dog in the Parsons argument and maybe your opinion is the correct one, but it doesn't much matter if that opinion isn't based on anything.

I mean you've got 61,000 posts on an NFL forum and you don't know who Sauce Gardner is, lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We’ll never know . But I think most would argue it probably derailed the defense and possibly the season early on.

Right but I’ll say this….Eberflus was a bad hire. If there’s any good of Micah being gone is Eberflus gone a year later.

 

[Diehardblues]

My rebuttal, if you require one, is that you are making statements about Parsons that he is generational, the trade was lop sided and that the Cowboys had a shot at the playoffs if he played for them.

How can you form an opinion if you don't watch or follow the NFL? It appears you only watch Cowboys games and apparently not very closely because we played the Jets and Gardner this year.

How can you claim that the Cowboys might have made the playoffs with Parsons when you don't have a way to compare teams and players across the league because you don't know them.

I don't have a dog in the Parsons argument and maybe your opinion is the correct one, but it doesn't much matter if that opinion isn't based on anything.

I mean you've got 61,000 posts on an NFL forum and you don't know who Sauce Gardner is, lol.

I stated that it wasnt my opinion Parsons was generational noting other analyst , etc in general as Parsons was referred to by most id seen speak of him. Surely you’ve seen that description as well.

I do follow the NFL. As a matter of fact I’m usually watching 3 games or more at once in my sports cave . I only have the sound on one game .

I can claim we might have made the playoffs with Parsons cause we were basically a better defense with him . Without that pass rush our defense fell to one of our worst historically in Cowboys history.

We had a favorable schedule in 1st half. One or two more wins and we could have been in playoff race. I don’t have to know how every team measures up to make an assessment and provide my opinion .

Hey, my history of following the Cowboys and NFL for 60 years allows me to provide my opinion. I’ve never stated I was an expert. But I do feel qualified to discuss the Cowboys.

I put myself out there with my honesty which most wouldn’t cause they never want to be wrong . If you want to listen to me or not really couldn’t care less. We are allowed to provide our views without personal insults, innuendos etc to discredit.

If the fact I wasn’t familiar with What’s his name ( already forgot it) was enough for you to ignore then that’s fine. The insult wasn’t necessary unless you just didn’t like my message and thought discrediting was easier than arguing the message. Thanks

 

[Diehardblues]

Right but I’ll say this….Eberflus was a bad hire. If there’s any good of Micah being gone is Eberflus gone a year later.

Anybody would have been fired with that defense .

 

[kskboys]

No doubt that if Dallas can get two impact defensive players in the first round who will start in 2026… they win the Micah trade.

I think they win it by a landslide w/ one impact D player and Q.

 

[Kwyn]

People continue to conflate the trades together and get confused on what exactly went down.

We receive
Quennin Williams
Kenny Clark
1st 2026 (Green Bay) - #20
1st 2027 (Green Bay)

We give
Micah Parsons
Mazi Smith
2nd 2026 (Cowboys) - #44
1st 2027 (Cowboys)

 

[Kwyn]

Rock on brother you called that correct.
Micah was not making an impact on our defense when it counted and couldn't stay healthy and help Green Bay either.

There are absolutely no guarantees on how he's going to come back from the injury and how long it's going to take but to say he is a guaranteed Hall of famer is being a bit presumptuous in my opinion.

If the Cowboys can draft Sonny styles we got the better of that.

Sonny is every bit as elite an
athlete as Micah heck his vertical is only a couple inches short of Michael Jordan.
More than that he's a football player serious and all about the job at hand.

If we get him he will make a bigger impact in big games than Micah ever did

If we get Sonny styles it has absolutely nothing to do with the Micah trade unless we get him at 20. See above

 

[Blackrain]

I agree. We did. But is the season a waste if we bring back Micah?

Absolutely that season was going to be a waste no matter what because that defensive coordinator was not inspiring anybody leading Men or coming up with a scheme that matched our talent or lack thereof.

And Micah never Rose to the occasion in big games or when we needed him anyway Micah was the king of garbage time stats.
He was no game changer in big moments he was no LT or Charles Haley he didn't have the eye of the tiger or killer instinct he was an entrepreneur with a podcast and criticized by his own teammates.

 

[Blackrain]

How exactly could we not win the trade.
We got two first round picks fixed the hardest part of the defense to fix the defensive tackle position that had been ignored for years.

Micah never changed any big games or put the team on his back and propelled us to anything of significance.

Micah compiled stats against bad teams in garbage time.

He couldn't even get a sack against us they gave him one when Dak made it back to the line of scrimmage.

We can draft a another high caliber player to go along with Williams and Clark .

A healthy player on a rookie contract while Micah comes back to the Packers costing a king's Ransom and rehabbing an injury.

How are we possibly not ahead in this transaction.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Anybody would have been fired with that defense .

I don’t know…..It was essentially a continuation of the Bears….Bears didn’t miss him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Absolutely that season was going to be a waste no matter what because that defensive coordinator was not inspiring anybody leading Men or coming up with a scheme that matched our talent or lack thereof.

And Micah never Rose to the occasion in big games or when we needed him anyway Micah was the king of garbage time stats.
He was no game changer in big moments he was no LT or Charles Haley he didn't have the eye of the tiger or killer instinct he was an entrepreneur with a podcast and criticized by his own teammates.

No lies told. Because if we bring Micah back chances are Mazi still here and our interior just wasn’t good enough.

 

[Blackrain]

No lies told. Because if we bring Micah back chances are Mazi still here and our interior just wasn’t good enough.

For sure I hate to say it but Mazi was about as much help on our defensive line as Rowdy would have been.
He needed to go glad the Jets took him off our hands he was just a sad story that we did not need to watch any longer

 

[Blackrain]

If we get Sonny styles it has absolutely nothing to do with the Micah trade unless we get him at 20. See above

There is no telling when Sonny will get drafted he may not make it out of the top 10.

That said I would draft him at 12or 20