Escobar? Did he step up and show us anything?

[Next Years Champ]

Since we are all picking apart the carcas from this game..

What about our rookie TE?

I was flabbergasted to see him take that pass to the house.

I'm not one to wax poetic over anybody on this team, but I was pleased to see this.

I suspected going into the game that becuz Orton played a lot with the second string guys..

...that somebody like an Escobar or DuWayne Harris was going to get a chance to shine being that they had some repoire with Orton from practice.

So how did you guys see it and what does this mean going forward?

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I know one thing, that was one of the most exciting scores all season. Orton probably was more familiar with second stringers which is why I'm surprised Beasley wasn't a bigger factor.

Also, Witten still has IT so this May stunt Escobar's growth a bit, but Escobar appears to have a good future from what little bit we've seen.

 

[Randy White]

Escobar is going through the same abuse from fans that the previous two TEs selected in the 2nd round, Fasano and Bennett, went through. As long as Jason Witten keeps playing at a Pro Bowl level, the 2nd TE will get scraps, at best. No matter if has the potential of a hall of fame TE.

Somehow people keep missing that detail when they pass judgements on him

 

[Hoofbite]

Doesn't matter what he shows. Team has no idea how to get him or any other #2 TE involved on a regular basis.

Basically a sports car that they drive to the mailbox and back.

 

[Hoofbite]

Escobar is going through the same abuse from fans that the previous two TEs selected in the 2nd round, Fasano and Bennett, went through. As long as Jason Witten keeps playing at a Pro Bowl level, the 2nd TE will get scraps, at best. No matter if has the potential of a hall of fame TE.

Somehow people keep missing that detail when they pass judgements on him

Nobody is missing that. In fact many have said that's why you don't waste picks on a #2 TE.

 

[Randy White]

Nobody is missing that. In fact many have said that's why you don't waste picks on a #2 TE.

And that's absolutely false. Go take a look at the draft history. You'll see TEs routinely get picked in the 2nd round if only for their blocking skills alone. When people in here were fuzzing about Benette, I made it a point to go back and look at the record. From 2000-2009, if I remember correctly, 11 TEs were drafted in the 2nd rnd, mostly as 2nd TEs, by teams who had established starting TEs, if not pro bowl ( Chiefs did it while TG was there ) caliber TEs, on their rosters. That's a little over 1 per draft.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

It's hard to tell if Escobar's lack of production is because he's just not very good, or because Garrett has no clue how to incorporate him into the offense.

I think it's very likely to be the latter, but either way at this point he's a wasted draft pick.

 

[Next Years Champ]

I know one thing, that was one of the most exciting scores all season. Orton probably was more familiar with second stringers which is why I'm surprised Beasley wasn't a bigger factor.

Also, Witten still has IT so this May stunt Escobar's growth a bit, but Escobar appears to have a good future from what little bit we've seen.

Agreed.

One play does not a starter make..

but starting next year I'd like to see him start and Witten sit until the season starts and then platoon them more.

We have to get somebody ready to take over as the starter.

Somebody who has a little wiggle and can go up for passes.

Witten is a straight-line receiver and the pass he dropped and got intercepted was the difference in the game as they only took 2 plays to score once that happened.

Witten made a poor play not catching it and then again by not at least trying to knock the ball to the ground.

I was definitely disappointed in his play in that game.

He caught a lot of passes..but like so many teams...they feel Written is not going to beat them for the game.

And they were right.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think the rookie TE gets an incomplete.

He has talent; we've seen flashes. The biggest challenge with second TEs on this team is that they are not, and never will be, part of the scheme. Oh, Garrett and Jerry can talk all they want to about the NE 2-TE set but Garrett has never featured two TEs in his offense.

Bennett and Fasano were both good picks as TEs, they were just bad picks for the Cowboys because a Pro Bowl TE was already on the team and he is the only featured TE in a Garrett-led offense. If Witten had gone down at any time during their stay in Dallas, I think they would have performed well. So would Escobar.

 

[Idgit]

Not really anything he hasn't shown already. But it was a good play on his part.

 

[big dog cowboy]

So how did you guys see it and what does this mean going forward?

I view Escobar the same now as I did after the draft. It was a pick for the future and he wouldn't be much of a producer this year and he wasn't. He still needs to get stronger and polish his blocking skills. But we saw a glimmer (or a flash whichever is smaller) of what he can do for us. He will get more opportunities and eventually start taking some of Witten's catches. The shame of it is he was drafted in the 2nd round and the recent Cowboys drafting of TE's in that round will follow him throughout his career.

 

[mahoneybill]

Doesn't matter what he shows. Team has no idea how to get him or any other #2 TE involved on a regular basis.

Basically a sports car that they drive to the mailbox and back.

Like that analogy.... A lamborghini sent to get the publishers clearing house most recent prize entry

 

[Mr Cowboy]

the problem with Escobar as I see it, is that he was not a one of kind, must have or you miss out player. There are TEs like him coming out every draft. He was not an absolute need when he was drafted. There were many other pressing areas that could have been addressed instead of picking a 3 string TE in the second round.When your 6th round pick gets more playing time than your 2nd rounder, its a problem. Escobar was not a need but a luxury.

BTW I heard Micky saying that a blocking TE would be needed in this upcoming draft. LOL.

 

[Next Years Champ]

I view Escobar the same now as I did after the draft. It was a pick for the future and he wouldn't be much of a producer this year and he wasn't. He still needs to get stronger and polish his blocking skills. But we saw a glimmer (or a flash whichever is smaller) of what he can do for us. He will get more opportunities and eventually start taking some of Witten's catches. The shame of it is he was drafted in the 2nd round and the recent Cowboys drafting of TE's in that round will follow him throughout his career.

Well..

Wasn't Witten drafted in the 2nd?

 

[Picksix]

It's hard to tell if Escobar's lack of production is because he's just not very good, or because Garrett has no clue how to incorporate him into the offense.

I think it's very likely to be the latter, but either way at this point he's a wasted draft pick.

Take it for what's it's worth, but when Broaddus does his film study, he always says he consistently sees Escobar get open. Romo just rarely throws him the ball. Takes time to develop trust, I guess.

 

[Picksix]

Well..

Wasn't Witten drafted in the 2nd?

Early 3rd.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Well..

Wasn't Witten drafted in the 2nd?

No the 3rd.

Escobar's curse is following Fasano and Bennett.

 

[FiveRings]

He wasn't really used, but when he was, I thought he was good. I never had a problem with the player, I had a problem with the pick. How do you justify buying a shiny new car, when your house is in shambles? Basically what we did with the Escobar pick

 

[reddyuta]

Doesn't matter what he shows. Team has no idea how to get him or any other #2 TE involved on a regular basis.

Basically a sports car that they drive to the mailbox and back.

or any other offensive weapon for that matter,we have a speedy back which we rarely use even when Romo was blitzed into oblivion.Garrett is just incompetent and there is no way to sugar coat it.

 

[Deep_South]

I guess it's worth repeating that it isn't Escobar's fault that Jerry drafted him for his fantasy team instead of for the Dallas Cowboys.

A team that had been at .500 for two years needed an impact player to help get it over the hump, not someone who might be good in the future if he could learn how to block, IMO.