News: ESPN: Garrett: Claiborne admitted mistake, moving on

[Vtwin]

If you think the Dallas Cowboys and the NFL are not corporate, you half to rethink your rude comment.
The players are no different than others working in the corporate world. They half contracts, travel, half attorneys and managers and abide by taxes and corporate regulations.
The difference is they play football on the field. Otherwise, they live more in the corporate world than you or me or a dog named Blue.
So take yo smug, girlish LOL and consider what I half said in the manner of the (echo chamber effect) Supreme Truth.

LOL (a manly laugh out loud)

Comparing the day to day dynamic of a locker room to a boardroom is like comparing the same for Burt's Barbershop in Smalltown USA to Salon De Pretentious on Hollywood Blvd.

Sure, they both pay taxes but.....

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Comparing the day to day dynamic of a locker room to a boardroom is like comparing the same for Burt's Barbershop in Smalltown USA to Salon De Pretentious on Hollywood Blvd.

Sure, they both pay taxes but.....

I do see your point. But the spatial link is there nonetheless. You half to look beyond the practice field and unis. It IS THE CORPORATE WORLD these players exist in.
And the corporate world does not mean boardrooms. There is very much more to the corporate world than the boardroom, belief me.

the NFL and the Cowboys are big business, thus corporate world.
Players half contracts, thus corporrate world.
They half endorsements and 401Ks and all the rules we and they should live by.
Please look beyond their uniforms and the playing field. In reality the NFL and Cowboys are nmore in the corporate world than most businesses.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

NFL is corporate NFL players are union they are not corporate heads they work for the corporation. As for your importance I'm sure you think you are very important so good for you, at least you think you are important.

Please do not step on my dreams or illusions. I like myself. I am learning and growing and I half feelings so do not demeans me or minimize me. You hurt me on a regular basis and I want to no why. We should be friends running through the plaza and seeing the pigeans fly out of our way and then drinking from the furry cup of friendship. But you choose to demeans me and that is your loss.

 

[Doomsday101]

Please do not step on my dreams or illusions. I like myself. I am learning and growing and I half feelings so do not demeans me or minimize me. You hurt me on a regular basis and I want to no why. We should be friends running through the plaza and seeing the pigeans fly out of our way and then drinking from the furry cup of friendship. But you choose to demeans me and that is your loss.

You must really be found of me, sorry I don't see things your way. I saw nothing taking place with Mo that I have not seen with other teams. Look you want to attack Garrett fine that seems to be something you enjoy so go for it but based on what I have seen this is not out of the norm around the NFL in how the Cowboys are dealing with it.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

You must really be found of me, sorry I don't see things your way. I saw nothing taking place with Mo that I have not seen with other teams. Look you want to attack Garrett fine that seems to be something you enjoy so go for it but based on what I have seen this is not out of the norm around the NFL in how the Cowboys are dealing with it.

Bean the gentleman that I am and half always bean I will let you half the last word. but keep in mind that I am rubber and you are glue.

And yes, I am fond of you. So call me irresponsible.

 

[Vtwin]

I do see your point. But the spatial link is there nonetheless. You half to look beyond the practice field and unis. It IS THE CORPORATE WORLD these players exist in.
And the corporate world does not mean boardrooms. There is very much more to the corporate world than the boardroom, belief me.

the NFL and the Cowboys are big business, thus corporate world.
Players half contracts, thus corporrate world.
They half endorsements and 401Ks and all the rules we and they should live by.
Please look beyond their uniforms and the playing field. In reality the NFL and Cowboys are nmore in the corporate world than most businesses.

I do understand the point you are making but I do think it is a bit of an over generalization and an apples to oranges comparison.

Firing a malcontent in the marketing department or finance department or whatever department will leave a temporary void that generally can be filled with existing resources immediately and better filled by a new hire for the long term. The impact on the manager who did the firing and the "team" is relatively minimal beyond having to step up an pick up some slack in the short term.

The impact on a coach and the rest of the team for benching one of your best players at a position that is already going to have its hands full can be much more severe. Coaches generally need to win to keep their jobs. Benching your top players generally doesn't help you win. Especially so in this specific situation.

It doesn't even make sense from a true corporate profit making standpoint. NFL Team Inc makes its money from winning football games, which sells tickets and merchandise and whatnot. Getting into the playoffs generates revenue. Reducing your chances to win unnecessarily is in direct conflict with the goals of pretty much every corporation on the planet.

I do feel you though. I am generally a hardass and know all about message sending. A message should be sent for sure. Benching him doesn't help anyone though (corporations are people too don't forget. lol).

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I do understand the point you are making but I do think it is a bit of an over generalization and an apples to oranges comparison.

Firing a malcontent in the marketing department or finance department or whatever department will leave a temporary void that generally can be filled with existing resources immediately and better filled by a new hire for the long term. The impact on the manager who did the firing and the "team" is relatively minimal beyond having to step up an pick up some slack in the short term.

The impact on a coach and the rest of the team for benching one of your best players at a position that is already going to have its hands full can be much more severe. Coaches generally need to win to keep their jobs. Benching your top players generally doesn't help you win. Especially so in this specific situation.

It doesn't even make sense from a true corporate profit making standpoint. NFL Team Inc makes its money from winning football games, which sells tickets and merchandise and whatnot. Getting into the playoffs generates revenue. Reducing your chances to win unnecessarily is in direct conflict with the goals of pretty much every corporation on the planet.

I do feel you though. I am generally a hardass and know all about message sending. A message should be sent for sure. Benching him doesn't help anyone though (corporations are people too don't forget. lol).

Ok, a lot of thought went into your response and I apperciate it. We disagree on the comparisons but agree on the premise that a wise boss or coach will send (eventually) a message to a disgruntled and perhaps uncooperative employee. Waive a player for such an offense: Overkill. Making sure he and the public know he will be benched and sanction? That seems adequate.
But at some point a coach must send a shot across the brow. And Mo needs a administrative and public rebuke because he is a public person and not some synonomous drone working for the man.

Best wishes,
gimme

 

[SuspectCorner]

Claiborne has some growing up and manning up to do. But I am not opposed to letting him do it. Too many folks want to take a free kick on this guy now that he's down. I was a day one skeptic on this pick but there is an unseemly ugliness going on 'round these parts regarding him.

It's pretty clear to those professionally or emotionally connected to the Dallas Cowboys, with the possible exception of the player himself, that Morris Claiborne's stint to-date has been very underwhelming... a whole lot was expected of this kid based on his college play and scouting (league-wide). And there has been a recent attempt on the part of the team to bring this to the full attention of Mr. Claiborne.

His initial response was disappointing to most of us and his rethinking has received mixed reviews at best. But, considering the level of investment the team has in this player (who plays what many consider the second-toughest position in all of pro football) - how is it unreasonable to try to guide him through the diversity he is currently facing... even if much of that diversity may be self-induced?

It's STILL only his third season. Yes, we're disappointed - but it's not really that hard to understand why the team would still exercise extreme patience with Claiborne. Instant gratification is easy and patience is tough. He HAS been demoted and the message to him is sent. No doubt many of us are hoping he will battle through and live up to some of those high hopes we had for him. To do otherwise makes no sense.