ESPN has us still at #6 pick

[reddyuta]

Taking a QB, if they are the best player, is no worse than any other position.

Unless of course, you believe that the top draft pick has to play right away.

If that is the case you are basically plugging holes, each and every year.

this is what we have been doing in the first RD for the past few years,its time to think long time and transition slowly from Romo.

 

[Alexander]

The guys who don't want a QB are Romo-stans who believe he is actually going stay healthy 2 or 3 more years, it's pretty transparent.

And that is just the wrong way to look at it.

Admitting Romo is nearing the end of the line is not downing him nor turning your back on him.

It is simply admitting what is fast becoming a reality.

 

[JoeKing]

So why comment?

Just to see what people's opinion are.

 

[Alexander]

this is what we have been doing in the first RD for the past few years,its time to think long time and transition slowly from Romo.

I look at it this way. Assume Scandrick doesn't get hurt. Does Byron Jones see the field? Or is he messing around for part of the year until they finally decide to bench one of the safeties for him? Collins took a good chunk of the year to start. Gregory was a spot player.

It is not always desirable to have an open gaping hole on the roster to plug in your first round pick. If that is the case, you probably don't have a very good roster to begin with.

 

[Alexander]

Just to see what people's opinion are.

Of course.

 

[JoeKing]

Where do you think the majority of our players come from?

Maybe since you don't watch the draft you might not realize this, but the worst your record is the higher you get to pick. The higher you get to pick, usually the better the player is available. That is why fans are wanting to lose these last couple of games since it could be the difference between picking 5 or picking at 13. Hell of a lot of difference in the caliber of player available.

blah blah blah yada yada yada I don't care.

 

[DTown214]

I don't know what you mean by "Russell Wilson" type, but there are some later round types that might work out, like Brandon Doughty, Nate Sudfeld, Brandon Allen or Kevin Hogan.

I get the idea of immediate help, but what safeties "immediately" made an impact, much less any chosen in the top 10? You usually trip over and Ed Reed. Not target them in the top 10.

I didn't mean a Wilson-type based on playing style... just a gem that might slip to the later rounds. But yeah a guy you mentioned, Kevin Hogan might be intriguing if the chips don't fall in place for us to get a QB early.

I don't think there's a formula to finding great safeties, no matter what history says. If there's a guy they like and feel could come in, be a starter, and really contribute... gotta go for it. I'd really like a running back first though. Henry or Elliott would be great. We could even trade back and pick up another pick and still get one of those guys.

 

[Alexander]

I didn't mean a Wilson-type based on playing style... just a gem that might slip to the later rounds. But yeah a guy you mentioned, Kevin Hogan might be intriguing if the chips don't fall in place for us to get a QB early.

Hogan is a player that could fit, but the other two are not bad and aren't getting enough publicity. Sudfeld in particular.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Taking a QB, if they are the best player, is no worse than any other position.

Unless of course, you believe that the top draft pick has to play right away.

If that is the case you are basically plugging holes, each and every year.

QB is very unlikely to be the best player in what's being called a weak qb class.

If a Cam Newton is there you take him. There is no Cam. No Luck.

 

[Alexander]

QB is very unlikely to be the best player in what's being called a weak qb class.

If a Cam Newton is there you take him. There is no Cam. No Luck.

Cam Newton wasn't even considered the best player in his draft at this juncture. That was D'Quan Bowers.

A lot can change.

I think a lot of people saying this is a "weak QB class" actually want it to be that way so it avoids the question.

And people thought 2012 was a "strong" QB draft. Luck, Griffin, Tannehill and Weeden in the first. Looks like a one player crop to me.

It is a very hard position to draft. But to go with "common knowledge" is a waste of time.

 

[reddyuta]

QB is very unlikely to be the best player in what's being called a weak qb class.

If a Cam Newton is there you take him. There is no Cam. No Luck.

lol.please go back in the zone when Cam was drafted and read what the majority of them had to say,most thought he was an utter failure and some called him a thug and worse.heck go back last year and check out the draft zone on Mariotta and Winston .a lot of them thought Winston will bust out and most thought(including me) that Mariotta needed a lot of time to get used to pro style offense.

 

[Killerinstinct]

Interesting situation here as some sites calculate the SOS based on the first 15 weeks and some add in the last two opponents current record. I am assuming that the final SOS will be comprised of the final records of each of the 15 opponents throughout the season and not the record of each opponent at the time they were played. If that is the case the SOS could still change quite a bit with 15 opponents(really twelve since 3 teams will be played twice) winning percentages being recalculated every week.

 

[viman96]

This is not a good year to be looking for a QB especially in the 1st RD

 

[coach steele]

So going 5-11 is a winning mentality, but 4-12 is a loser mentality?

Bro, the only difference between 4 wins or 5 wins is draft order, if anybody cant see that I cant help them. Even Jerry gets it, he said he was "lusting after a top draft pick".

If you are getting wood just thinking about a top 5 pick, there is no way in hell you are rooting for a win the next two weeks. Jerry can give lip service to saying the team is going to play hard, but we all know what Jerry is thinking and hoping for.

If you are players and coaches, you are trying to win every game. If not, that is a losers mentality. If you are a fan, its perfectly acceptable to hope for a top draft pick and a franchise player. Being a fan, there is many different ways to look at it. For me, I root for them to win because I hate to see them lose. However, when they do lose, I take comfort in knowing that they have better draft position.

 

[sureletsrace]

No. Better.

CB.

TE.

*drops mic*

 

[coach steele]

This is not a good year to be looking for a QB especially in the 1st RD

Have you seen Paxton Lynch play? He needs to sit a year or two and learn an NFL offense, but kid has all the tools. He throws down the field more than you would expect and has nice touch on intermediate throws. Want is even more impressive is his athleticism (in and out of the pocket).

 

[sureletsrace]

blah blah blah yada yada yada I don't care.

You're a grumpy one tonight.

 

[Alexander]

This is not a good year to be looking for a QB especially in the 1st RD

Not that much different than any other year.

People keep pretending there are strong QB years all the time and honestly, if you look back in history, that doesn't exist.

There was one huge QB draft in 1983. The rest are one and two player crops. Sometimes complete wastes.

So if you are just going to wait for your need and that great QB class to converge to make it simple, you will be waiting for a very very long time.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

lol.please go back in the zone when Cam was drafted and read what the majority of them had to say,most thought he was an utter failure and some called him a thug and worse.heck go back last year and check out the draft zone on Mariotta and Winston .a lot of them thought Winston will bust out and most thought(including me) that Mariotta needed a lot of time to get used to pro style offense.

All those guys were considered number 1 overall material...regardless of what armchair scouts on the Zone think.

These qbs coming out are....not.

 

[reddyuta]

All those guys were considered number 1 overall material...regardless of what armchair scouts on the Zone think.

These qbs coming out are....not.

well we are not drafting no 1 overall,so thats good then.Even with Jason Garrett i dont think we will ever draft no 1 overall.My prediction is that 2 Qbs will go top 10 in this draft and even 4 may go in the first RD which is more than last year.