ESPN Insider: Cowboys' offense tougher to defend with Dak Prescott at quarterback

Seven

Messenger to the football Gods
Messages
19,301
Reaction score
9,892
I dont agree. The Giants had no problem stopping this offense.

A lot of the posters on here forget how great of a QB Tony Romo was/is...
First game of the season.

Rookie QB.................probably pretty predictable.

Rookie RB zero nuances with the OL and running too hard.
 

WillieBeamen

BoysfanfromNY
Messages
16,327
Reaction score
47,668
First game of the season.

Rookie QB.................probably pretty predictable.

Rookie RB zero nuances with the OL and running too hard.
This I agree with, but let's be honest here. There's going to be a time when the running game gets shut down. Im talking about shut down how the Eagles shut our rushing game down on Thanksgiving in 14'.

Right now, teams are gameplanning to stop Zeke. When this eventully happens, who are you more comfortable with throwing 40-50 times in a game. Romo or Dak?
 

WillieBeamen

BoysfanfromNY
Messages
16,327
Reaction score
47,668
My point is the personnel is pretty much the same. It's not like we've added new better talent.

Maybe they are playing better because of the QB.
Or maybe they are playing better because they are more experienced. Is this a serious argument?

Players get better as the years go by. T-Will was a second year player that year. This year, he's in his 4th year and is playing for a new contract. Big Difference...Same with Leary.
 

Seven

Messenger to the football Gods
Messages
19,301
Reaction score
9,892
This I agree with, but let's be honest here. There's going to be a time when the running game gets shut down. Im talking about shut down how the Eagles shut our rushing game down on Thanksgiving in 14'.

Right now, teams are gameplanning to stop Zeke. When this eventully happens, who are you more comfortable with throwing 40-50 times in a game. Romo or Dak?
Well FTR I'm on the fence with Romo. I DO think Dallas will need him come playoff time. JMO. And I also think he would've won the Giants game.

However, don't forget...............Dak running is an option too. He's a lot more mobile that Romo.
 

Kevinicus

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,882
Reaction score
12,670
01_dak_to_cole.gif


Deep%2Bto%2BButler.gif

The first one is a good example of not having the best accuracy. It should have been a TD. The second one was one of his more impressive throws on the year.

I think Beasely is one of the biggest reasons for the offense's success this year. That man is abusing people.
 

mahoneybill

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,911
Reaction score
4,526
Just for the sake I'll give you that.

But doesn't the fact that Romo was a 10 year veteran and Dak is a 6 game rookie kinda equal things out a bit? I'd bet if Dak was a 10 year vet right now we'd have scored a few more points. And frankly, all Dak needed was freaking 2 more points in the Giants game and we'd be undefeated so I'm not really all that concerned about how many points we scored in 2014.

And those were there, but for a high throw to Beasley
 

Gaede

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,165
Reaction score
14,127
Dak is leading the league or very near the top in a lot of passing statistics and passer ratings. How much better could Tony be as far as passing statistics than where Dak is at the moment ? Maybe he could be at a similar level but how much room is their to move up when you are already at the top ?
I've never seen so many excuses for OUR OWN quarterback's success. It's surreal. We're sitting at 5-1 and ppl want to replace the starting QB who has a 68.7 completion % and 7:1 Td to INT ratio.

Lunacy
 

THEHEREAFTER

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,862
Reaction score
6,301
The first one is a good example of not having the best accuracy. It should have been a TD. .

Perhaps he didn't want to over throw him. I agree this should have been a TD but you'll see this throw overthrown every Sunday as well.
 

THEHEREAFTER

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,862
Reaction score
6,301
This I agree with, but let's be honest here. There's going to be a time when the running game gets shut down. Im talking about shut down how the Eagles shut our rushing game down on Thanksgiving in 14'.

Right now, teams are gameplanning to stop Zeke. When this eventully happens, who are you more comfortable with throwing 40-50 times in a game. Romo or Dak?

Neither! Tony didn't have to do this in 2014 and had his best season. Dak looks pretty good in two minute situations honestly. Let's remember that he's started 6 games. We haven't been shut down yet because we have a dominant O-line/running game, playmakers at the skill positions, we're converting on third downs and we have a balanced offense that doesn't make mistakes and stays ahead of the chains. This defeats getting "shut down." Could we have an off game? Sure... but when you're not relying on gimmicks, your QB can adjust, improvise, read defenses adequately while going through progressions, you're pretty hard to stop.
 

Zman5

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,143
Reaction score
20,599
Or maybe they are playing better because they are more experienced. Is this a serious argument?

Players get better as the years go by. T-Will was a second year player that year. This year, he's in his 4th year and is playing for a new contract. Big Difference...Same with Leary.

Same players didn't play as well last year. T-will and Beasley wasn't as good as they were in 2014. So the argument that they got better as the years go by doesn't hold water.

It's highly unlikely, all the players all of sudden got all better this year.
 

WillieBeamen

BoysfanfromNY
Messages
16,327
Reaction score
47,668
Same players didn't play as well last year. T-will and Beasley wasn't as good as they were in 2014. So the argument that they got better as the years go by doesn't hold water.

It's highly unlikely, all the players all of sudden got all better this year.
So the incompetent QBs we trotted out there last year doenst come in to play when discussing how good the receivers are?

Twill had two pretty good games with Romo out there and had a career day vs the Deadskins

Edit: both those guys had career highs in receptions and yrds last year :facepalm:
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,310
Reaction score
32,715
Those weren't "precision passes", do you even know what that means? If we are going to be technical here

Is there some definitive source that tells us what a "precision pass" is?
The passes to Butler - both the TD and the one he dropped - were "precision passes," IMO.
I define a precision pass as a pass that hits a receiver in the hands without him having to break his stride or one where only the receiver can catch the ball.
The pass preceding Dak's interception was a "precision pass" because it was in a place where Butler could catch it in his hands, but he dropped it.

It's virtually impossible to hit a receiver with a pass without the receiver making some type of adjustment. Even Brady throws balls low, but they're balls that only his receiver is going to catch.

I'm not all caught up in some technical definition of "precision" because quarterbacks are human not robots. Get it in the area and give your receiver a chance to make a play.

But maybe there's some more definitive football definition of "precision" that I'm missing.
 

viman96

Thread Killer
Messages
21,555
Reaction score
22,657
I think Dak can throw deep but he has not been asked to do so. Overall Romo has not been asked to throw deep year in year out either. There has been plenty of threads here saying he needs or the coaching staff need to call more deep passes. This offense chooses to attack 10-20 yd range and are very good at it.

Regarding Dak's accuracy, he hits people in stride really well. He can be a high or behind when the receivers sit down and needs to work on that.

Also Dak is awesome with screens. Dude has a total feel when to release the ball with defenders crashing down on him.
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
54,310
Reaction score
32,715
I dont agree. The Giants had no problem stopping this offense.

A lot of the posters on here forget how great of a QB Tony Romo was/is...

I haven't forgotten. I just don't know if his body can hold up. That's my biggest concern, along with losing momentum.
 

Kevinicus

Well-Known Member
Messages
19,882
Reaction score
12,670
Perhaps he didn't want to over throw him. I agree this should have been a TD but you'll see this throw overthrown every Sunday as well.

You do. It wasn't a terrible throw, but it wasn't a good example of being accurate (Which I think it was meant to be).
 

MichaelWinicki

"You want some?"
Staff member
Messages
47,997
Reaction score
27,917
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
When i was arguing a case for Dak before the draft even i was told Dak had never passed for 60% comp rate, and since he never did it in college he possibly couldnt do it in the nfl. IM not going to mention names. But behold Dak leads gthe league in comp % and is 4th in QB rating. This is what i spoke about alot on Prescott, he's efficient, and hes smart. He has the ability to make the most out of whats given to him. Thats something Romo never had or even tried to learn. This trait is what made Brady into the best QB of this generation. He took what was given and made the most of it early because he was still growing as a QB. Then when the game slowed down he dominated. We are witnessing something special in the making and its a shame that alot of people are still living in 2014 when they are missing whats happening in 2016.

Dak was a career 62.8% completion passer in college and hit 66.2% his senior season.

Folks that say he's not accurate need to board a short-bus.
 

Zman5

Well-Known Member
Messages
17,143
Reaction score
20,599
So the incompetent QBs we trotted out there last year doenst come in to play when discussing how good the receivers are?

Twill had two pretty good games with Romo out there and had a career day vs the Deadskins

Edit: both those guys had career highs in receptions and yrds last year :facepalm:

You just proved my point that it's the QB that made the difference and not the "years of experience".

And the reason they had more receptions and yards were due to being targeted more because of Dez being out. Both had lower catch percentages and yards per reception last year than previous years. :facepalm::facepalm:
 
Last edited:
Top