ESPN: Jerry shoulders blame for romo not having a ring

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Would money loss cause Jerrah to change? Possible, but I wouldnt bet on it. Most addicts dont change until they really hit rock bottom and thats 6 feet under. Even the ones that want to change have a hard time doing it. The possibility is always there, but only becomes a reality when the person wants to put forth the effort to actually change. Most dont change even tho they dont like where they are, because they like where they are better than where they would be with the change.

For Jerrah and his ego, a radical change would be an admission of failure for almost 2 decades. He couldnt live with that. He may not like where he is, but he likes trying it his way and failing at this point way more than he would like admitting failure and winning another way. Change solidifies his failure. Keep trying his way and if he happens to hit on something he has the fact that he DID get it done his way - even if he's the only one that would think it. His only shot at success in his mind is to continue trying.

Sounds like Jerry needs a good old fashioned intervention . . . . Wish the show was still around . . . . .
 

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Announce this team can compete for a title this year. Fail. Take the blame. Do nothing about it. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

There's a second thing that you always said that I'm starting to believe (the first was build the lines first), JG may not be a bad coach because only a veteran coach with skins on the wall could succeed in this management structure.
 

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Would money loss cause Jerrah to change? Possible, but I wouldnt bet on it. Most addicts dont change until they really hit rock bottom and thats 6 feet under. Even the ones that want to change have a hard time doing it. The possibility is always there, but only becomes a reality when the person wants to put forth the effort to actually change. Most dont change even tho they dont like where they are, because they like where they are better than where they would be with the change.

For Jerrah and his ego, a radical change would be an admission of failure for almost 2 decades. He couldnt live with that. He may not like where he is, but he likes trying it his way and failing at this point way more than he would like admitting failure and winning another way. Change solidifies his failure. Keep trying his way and if he happens to hit on something he has the fact that he DID get it done his way - even if he's the only one that would think it. His only shot at success in his mind is to continue trying.

One of the truest post ever.
 

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On the 25th anniversary of buying the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones said one of his biggest regrets is not having won a Super Bowl withTony Romo as his quarterback, but places the blame on himself.

In a 30-minute Tuesday afternoon interview with KRLD-FM Dallas/Fort Worth, Jones also said there are some highly-priced contracts the team shouldn't have completed and believes the franchise would have won more titles if not for the current financial system in the NFL.
"We should have been knocking on the door and we haven't and I have no excuses, it starts here," Jones said. "But we have not. I know that to the extent that we have a healthy Romo, our best chance to get back to the Super Bowl is a healthy Romo."

The Cowboys have won just one playoff game with Romo as quarterback, 2009, and missed the postseason the last four seasons.

In the last three seasons, the Cowboys had a chance to reach the postseason by winning the NFC East in the regular season finale but lost each time.

Several years ago, Jones said he conferred with several former or current NFL personnel executives who advised from 2007 to 2010, the Cowboys had some of the best talent in the league. During that time, the Cowboys not only had Romo, but Pro Bowl players such as Terrell Owens, Flozell Adams, Jason Witten, Roy Williams, Marion Barber, DeMarcus Ware andMiles Austin.
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10517929

It is Jerry's fault. But ignorant fans depend on their opinions from the talking heads at ESPN that they listen to.
 

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There's a second thing that you always said that I'm starting to believe (the first was build the lines first), JG may not be a bad coach because only a veteran coach with skins on the wall could succeed in this management structure.

When Parcells arrived he talked of a culture change. He knew it had to change or he had no shot either. If you recall, Jerry and Bill talked about a long meeting between them making concessions to each other before the deal was signed. This no doubt was the topic of that discussion. You can not micromanage me like you did Dave Campo, Chan Gailey and Barry Switzer. The head coach must command his own locker room. He can't have the owner looking over his shoulder. When he was here the players answered to him and only him.

I don't think a vet coach could succeed under this current structure. I think a veteran coach is more likely to get Jerry to back off to coach here and under that structure he has a chance to succeed. Jason Garrett is set up to fail and the lazy frustrated fans take all their frustrations out on him for it.

The dude has no personnel department and no authority over his own players or staff. Bad players who you can't properly coach. If you can't win with that, you suck as a head coach.

IMO, next season was decided in January. It was on Jerry to change the structure and empower his head coach again. He didn't do it. So, again IMO, no matter what happens in FA or the draft the Dallas Cowboys have no chance whatsoever to win anything in 2014.

He'll get another chance to truly fix this franchise in January 2015. I wouldn't hold your breath.
 

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When Parcells arrived he talked of a culture change. He knew it had to change or he had no shot either. If you recall, Jerry and Bill talked about a long meeting between them making concessions to each other before the deal was signed. This no doubt was the topic of that discussion. You can not micromanage me like you did Dave Campo, Chan Gailey and Barry Switzer. The head coach must command his own locker room. He can't have the owner looking over his shoulder. When he was here the players answered to him and only him.

I don't think a vet coach could succeed under this current structure. I think a veteran coach is more likely to get Jerry to back off to coach here and under that structure he has a chance to succeed. Jason Garrett is set up to fail and the lazy frustrated fans take all their frustrations out on him for it.

The dude has no personnel department and no authority over his own players or staff. Bad players who you can't properly coach. If you can't win with that, you suck as a head coach.

IMO, next season was decided in January. It was on Jerry to change the structure and empower his head coach again. He didn't do it. So, again IMO, no matter what happens in FA or the draft the Dallas Cowboys have no chance whatsoever to win anything in 2014.

He'll get another chance to truly fix this franchise in January 2015. I wouldn't hold your breath.

This.

During the Garrett hiring I really wanted to get a Harbaugh or Ron Rivera in here. But deep in my heart I knew this team needed a Mike Holmgren, Jon Gruden, Lovie Smith, Tony Dungy type of coach. Jerry should always bring in a Parcells' style coach into Dallas. Someone that has enough skins on the wall that Jerry respects enough so he is willing to give him enough latitude to coach his way.

I have gone on record saying I don't like Garrett. I know I am one of those fans that have taken my frustrations out on him. But I also know that the current management structure in Dallas will not allow Garrett to succeed. Now odds are that he will get in or maybe two good playoff runs under this structure if he's lucky or if he's allowed to stay here for 10 or 15 years, but Garrett will not sustain long term success here. The way Jerry runs this team will not allow it.

I can also confidently predict that if Garrett leaves here and becomes HC for another team, he will have pretty good success. The Garrett fan club will feel that we let him go soon and overlook the fact that he will be in a new system that will allow him to flourish and develop the way a head coach should. Jones' mistake would have been hiring him green, then giving him the experience to move on. Again, he still would not have been successful here under the current management system. No coach would, unless they have enough experience or respect to get Jerry Jones to change that structure. Garrett does not have that power to make Jerry change much because from the owner himself he is a "head coach in training."

This is why not want Garrett as head coach here in the first place.
 

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Romo will be one of the aforementioned.

Jerra, don't blame yourself for Romo's lack of hardware. You did not thow those picks at the end of games.

Every QB throws interceptions to end games, this is a non issue and it's just gibberish from fans with an agenda. Fact is when the game is close, Romo is one of the best QBs in the game, and that's including his game ending interceptions.

You did not bobble the ball on a kick.

Romo shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with, ohh and the only reason we were in that position is because Romo brought us back with a clutch drive.

You did not decide you needed back surgery a week before the lastest big game.

Romo didn't decide either, his hand was forced, he had no choice whether he wanted to play or not. You're really going to hold that against him for sitting out with a herniated disk, after he even put us in position for the playoffs with a clutch GW drive? And what's the big deal, according to people on here we don't need him anyway, he's an average QB.

Romo is a choker. We don't love him less. We just don't respect him.
You half done what you can but you are no GM and Romo is no leader. Accept it. We half.

Another common misconception that those with an agenda like to use, but it's just gibberish that holds no water. How can someone be a "choker", yet perform among the highest ever when the game is on the line? That's a little contradicting, yes? And how can you say Tony Romo isn't a leader, or someone who isn't "respected"? That statement is just so far off base it's not even funny, you honestly don't believe that ... do you? Lol.

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Quotes from some of our opponents last year regarding Tony Romo, the scrub QB that plays for Dallas.

Prince Amukamara - “I learned that he’s capable of anything. I don’t know if he is known or he can be known as a comeback kid. He always has a strong second half or strong fourth quarter, and he definitely likes to take chances and he definitely has a lot of trust in his receivers.

Justin Tuck - “They’re coming off the bye week, DeMarco Murray is healthy. I’m sure they’re gonna to get him the ball and get him established in the football game. We gotta make sure we take that edge away from them and get after him. The formula is the same against most elite quarterbacks. It really doesn’t change.” “Well, I’ve seen people get put in elite status with less, You can’t tell me he’s not a top-10 quarterback in this league.” “Ok. Dan Marino didn’t win The Big One. So he’s not an elite quarterback?” “I think the elite quarterback status comes from the fact that he can make all the throws. He’s definitely put up the stats. He’s given me fits.

Perry Fewell - “He’s a good pocket passer, and when he moves out of the pocket, he’s even more dangerous,” “The thing I see is he seems like he commands the offense more because he may call more plays on his own or what have you. He seems like he has more control of the offense than he has in the past.“He’s very accurate this year, probably more so than he has been in the past. You just have to hope he has a bad day and that you’re having a good day and that you can steal a couple of downs.”In my mind, he’s like Peyton and Tom Brady and those guys. He’s been in the league a long time, he’s seen every coverage known to man. You’ll try to disguise and do some things like that, but … they employ a quick game against us."

Mike Jenkins - “Everything I see from Romo is beautiful,” “I think Romo is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. There’s a lot of guys outside the franchise who have their own opinions on him or bring up interceptions or bring up bad decisions, whatever it may be that’s written. I disagree with a lot of that stuff because I know what type of guy he is on the field. I know he’s smart. … I know everything about him." “He’s definitely one of those quarterbacks you can’t sleep on or you’ll have a long day.”

For a guy who isn't "respected", he sure does get some high praise around the league from other players. :D
 

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Best thing he can do is start cleaning house with guys like Ware, Hatcher, Spencer, and Austin.
 

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You blow me outta the water, Jobber. Idgit ain't half bad either. ;) CL puts pen to paper well..............there's quite a few, actually.

Thank you for your kind words. I taught them all they know! ***puffs out chest*** :)
 

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Someone that has enough skins on the wall that Jerry respects enough so he is willing to give him enough latitude to coach his way
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I don't necessarily think that the skins on the wall gets Jerry to respect the coach but what it does is make him think twice about the backlash he will receive by going against a previously successful coach. The things he does while Garrett is the coach just imagine how that would go over if say Belichek was the coach, lockerroom postgame press conferences, hiring the coaching staff, stripping of play calling duties all gone.

That's the real reason that he doesn't want a previously successful head coach because he would get to have fun, he'd be uncomfortable.
 

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Is this "Biggest Regrets" week?

It's obligatory to get this remorseful introspection part of our offseason finished up and out of the way before the draft, so when we add a few pieces then Jerry can go back to selling how close this team is while singing Journey songs.
 

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Every QB throws interceptions to end games, this is a non issue and it's just gibberish from fans with an agenda. Fact is when the game is close, Romo is one of the best QBs in the game, and that's including his game ending interceptions.



Romo shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with, ohh and the only reason we were in that position is because Romo brought us back with a clutch drive.



Romo didn't decide either, his hand was forced, he had no choice whether he wanted to play or not. You're really going to hold that against him for sitting out with a herniated disk, after he even put us in position for the playoffs with a clutch GW drive? And what's the big deal, according to people on here we don't need him anyway, he's an average QB.



Another common misconception that those with an agenda like to use, but it's just gibberish that holds no water. How can someone be a "choker", yet perform among the highest ever when the game is on the line? That's a little contradicting, yes? And how can you say Tony Romo isn't a leader, or someone who isn't "respected"? That statement is just so far off base it's not even funny, you honestly don't believe that ... do you? Lol.

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Quotes from some of our opponents last year regarding Tony Romo, the scrub QB that plays for Dallas.

Prince Amukamara - “I learned that he’s capable of anything. I don’t know if he is known or he can be known as a comeback kid. He always has a strong second half or strong fourth quarter, and he definitely likes to take chances and he definitely has a lot of trust in his receivers.

Justin Tuck - “They’re coming off the bye week, DeMarco Murray is healthy. I’m sure they’re gonna to get him the ball and get him established in the football game. We gotta make sure we take that edge away from them and get after him. The formula is the same against most elite quarterbacks. It really doesn’t change.” “Well, I’ve seen people get put in elite status with less, You can’t tell me he’s not a top-10 quarterback in this league.” “Ok. Dan Marino didn’t win The Big One. So he’s not an elite quarterback?” “I think the elite quarterback status comes from the fact that he can make all the throws. He’s definitely put up the stats. He’s given me fits.

Perry Fewell - “He’s a good pocket passer, and when he moves out of the pocket, he’s even more dangerous,” “The thing I see is he seems like he commands the offense more because he may call more plays on his own or what have you. He seems like he has more control of the offense than he has in the past.“He’s very accurate this year, probably more so than he has been in the past. You just have to hope he has a bad day and that you’re having a good day and that you can steal a couple of downs.”In my mind, he’s like Peyton and Tom Brady and those guys. He’s been in the league a long time, he’s seen every coverage known to man. You’ll try to disguise and do some things like that, but … they employ a quick game against us."

Mike Jenkins - “Everything I see from Romo is beautiful,” “I think Romo is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. There’s a lot of guys outside the franchise who have their own opinions on him or bring up interceptions or bring up bad decisions, whatever it may be that’s written. I disagree with a lot of that stuff because I know what type of guy he is on the field. I know he’s smart. … I know everything about him." “He’s definitely one of those quarterbacks you can’t sleep on or you’ll have a long day.”

For a guy who isn't "respected", he sure does get some high praise around the league from other players. :D


Yeah...this post will be ignored.
 

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Every QB throws interceptions to end games, this is a non issue and it's just gibberish from fans with an agenda. Fact is when the game is close, Romo is one of the best QBs in the game, and that's including his game ending interceptions.

I half no interest in what other QBs do except when they play us. If Manning thows a pick I say "great!" If Romo thows a pick I say "**** *** ****????" Romo is one of the best. Yet I recall sitting on my Rastafarian pillow during the playoffs (ever playoffs season) thinking gee "Romo is one of the best QBs in the game, and that's including his game ending interceptions."



Romo shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with, ohh and the only reason we were in that position is because Romo brought us back with a clutch drive.

Romo should not half bobbled the ball. And that clutch drive is not clutch when he bobbles the ball.


Romo didn't decide either, his hand was forced, he had no choice whether he wanted to play or not. You're really going to hold that against him for sitting out with a herniated disk, after he even put us in position for the playoffs with a clutch GW drive? And what's the big deal, according to people on here we don't need him anyway, he's an average QB.

Oh, yes he did decide. Check the noose reports. I don't hold an injury agin him, except that your "clutch" QB is not worth an unsalted boiled egg if he cannot play the most important game of the late season. Average is sitting at home watching the playoffs. The goods ones, nay the great ones, go deep into the playoffs. And that is something that would be very foreign to your hero, Romo, isn't it?.

Another common misconception that those with an agenda like to use, but it's just gibberish that holds no water. How can someone be a "choker", yet perform among the highest ever when the game is on the line? That's a little contradicting, yes? And how can you say Tony Romo isn't a leader, or someone who isn't "respected"? That statement is just so far off base it's not even funny, you honestly don't believe that ... do you? Lol.

I will tell you why some consider him a choker: He chokes. Seemingly in late-season, crucial games. (and I didn't even mention Seattle back in the day, until now, i guess.) Yes, he performs among the highest: THEN he chokes. When in the history of the Cowboys half so many fans wanted to Heimlich Romo in so many games? And how often does a Cowboys QB half 5-pick days? Is Romo a leader? Obviously you consider him one. But don't you hate it when Dez "the competitor" shouts at Romo? Or when fans boo Romo? Is dat respect? Maybe. Maybe not.

And to trot out (HOF?) players to praise Tony: When do you see players bad-mouth players they might soon oppose on a Sunday? When do you see our coaches, our players bad-mouth Romo. Bad-mouth anybody? A leader is one that the GM does not half to encourage to put in "Peyton manning hours" to improve. A leader is someone who leads teams into the playoffs. And do not gift me that "he is just one player on the team." A QB is a field general, not a field corporal. A leader leads. Where half Tony led us? I tell you where Tony half led us: to our couches to watch other teams play in the playoffs. yea, though I pass through the Valley of the Ranch i half no fear to say Tony is brilliant in INDIVIDUAL stats yet the nowhere man when it comes to the post-season. He is no Danny White. Yet. He might get there, but at age 35? 36? 37? Hep me stay away until that happens.
I am overcome with sadness and my marvelous retorts. Must get . . . to the styrofoam coler (light bill is overdoo) and . . . get . . . beer. Like Gloria Gaynor, I will survive. Will our team under Romo? Probably not. But it will be nice for Tony to half all them brilliant individual stats you rejoyce over. Me, not so much.
Yes, my logic overcome you too and you now trimble with insignificance and confusion now but you remain my bud, my muse, my fellow forumite who loves Romo but who cannot bring youself to tell me: Has Romo worked out for us yet?

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Quotes from some of our opponents last year regarding Tony Romo, the scrub QB that plays for Dallas.

Prince Amukamara - “I learned that he’s capable of anything. I don’t know if he is known or he can be known as a comeback kid. He always has a strong second half or strong fourth quarter, and he definitely likes to take chances and he definitely has a lot of trust in his receivers.

Justin Tuck - “They’re coming off the bye week, DeMarco Murray is healthy. I’m sure they’re gonna to get him the ball and get him established in the football game. We gotta make sure we take that edge away from them and get after him. The formula is the same against most elite quarterbacks. It really doesn’t change.” “Well, I’ve seen people get put in elite status with less, You can’t tell me he’s not a top-10 quarterback in this league.” “Ok. Dan Marino didn’t win The Big One. So he’s not an elite quarterback?” “I think the elite quarterback status comes from the fact that he can make all the throws. He’s definitely put up the stats. He’s given me fits.

Perry Fewell - “He’s a good pocket passer, and when he moves out of the pocket, he’s even more dangerous,” “The thing I see is he seems like he commands the offense more because he may call more plays on his own or what have you. He seems like he has more control of the offense than he has in the past.“He’s very accurate this year, probably more so than he has been in the past. You just have to hope he has a bad day and that you’re having a good day and that you can steal a couple of downs.”In my mind, he’s like Peyton and Tom Brady and those guys. He’s been in the league a long time, he’s seen every coverage known to man. You’ll try to disguise and do some things like that, but … they employ a quick game against us."

Mike Jenkins - “Everything I see from Romo is beautiful,” “I think Romo is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. There’s a lot of guys outside the franchise who have their own opinions on him or bring up interceptions or bring up bad decisions, whatever it may be that’s written. I disagree with a lot of that stuff because I know what type of guy he is on the field. I know he’s smart. … I know everything about him." “He’s definitely one of those quarterbacks you can’t sleep on or you’ll have a long day.”

Yeah, you trot out all these HOF players to priase him.
I missed the significant players who will say also that Tony "is a competitor." We half many competitors. Now we needs winners.


For a guy who isn't "respected", he sure does get some high praise around the league from other players. :D
 

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Tony Romo has 100+ million reasons to not care if he wins or not. I'm sure he sleeps with cash in his pillows. I do.

Really?

The pillow?

I never thought about there..

I keep a small gun in one of them..

..hey..

.. I live in Texas.

Nuff said.
 

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I've kind of noticed that too BF4ev. It's like he's taking stock of his career, as if it's over. It's interesting to watch for sure. I wonder what's going through his head?

He's old! I think he's just reflecting. Even though he says oh yea we can compete for a SB I think he knows better.
 

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Jones also said there are some highly-priced contracts the team shouldn't have completed and believes the franchise would have won more titles if not for the current financial system in the NFL.

I agree. The cap started in 1994. Jerry has been completely inept at managing a football team under the salary cap era.
 
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