ESPN KC Joyner: Overrated/Underrated Pass Blockers... Flo overrated?

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By KC Joyner
ESPN Insider
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Updated: July 18, 2007

Pass-blocking is the latest subject in the series identifying the most overrated and underrated players in the NFL. The primary metric I use in grading pass-blockers is sacks allowed. The total number of sacks allowed is important, but I also place a lot of weight on the types of sacks the pass blocker is allowing. Coverage sacks are not as harmful to the player's grade as individual effort or blown block sacks.

In addition to sacks allowed, I also track the number of holding penalties called against an offensive lineman. Holding penalties are not quite as costly as sacks, as the offense loses the yardage but still gets to replay the down, but their negative value cannot be ignored.

As usual, the overrated and underrated rankings are based on how each player's 2006 metrics compare with his reputation. Pro Bowl berths are given a lot of weight in determining the perception of a player. The list is made up solely of tackles because the reputation of guards and centers is driven more by their run-blocking skills than pass-blocking.


Overrated pass-blockers
Walter Jones
Jones is widely regarded as the greatest pass-blocking left tackle in the league, but he gave up eight sacks last year -- the highest sack total allowed by any of the nine tackles either voted into the Pro Bowl or chosen as injury replacements. Jones also allowed one offensive holding penalty as well. He is still one of the better offensive linemen in the NFL, but his 2006 performance was well below his typical standard.

Flozell Adams
Adams was chosen as an injury replacement for the Pro Bowl, but his metrics were also mediocre. Adams allowed seven sacks, including four individual effort sacks. Adams also was called for one offensive holding penalty, and a crackback block penalty as well.

Others:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson: Ferguson might not be thought of as a great pass-blocker, but his metrics indicate he might not even be a good one right now. Ferguson allowed 11 sacks and had one holding penalty called on him. Given that five of the sacks were allowed during the Jets' last four games, Ferguson also wasn't showing much progress in this area.

Bryant McKinnie: McKinnie allowed six sacks. He also had five penalties called against him (four offensive holding and one tripping).


Underrated pass-blockers
Jason Peters
Peters is the most underrated offensive lineman in the league. He allowed only 1.5 sacks last season, and none were individual effort sacks. Peters also had zero offensive holding penalties called on him. The Bills thought so much of his play at right tackle last year, they moved Peters to left tackle in Week 9. If Peters plays as well in a full season at left tackle as he did in the last half of 2006, he will be a strong Pro Bowl candidate this year.

John Tait
Olin Kreutz gets the most press of any Bears' lineman, but Tait deserves some praise as well. He allowed only three sacks and had zero penalties called on him in 14 games last year. Tait's performance was especially good when you consider the verticality of the Bears' passing game. Chicago quarterbacks threw 82 deep/bomb passes in 2006, the fifth-highest total of any team in the league.

Others:
William Thomas: Thomas allowed only two total sacks and had zero penalties called on him in 16 starts last year. Philadelphia quarterbacks threw 79 deep/bomb passes, so Thomas was put through the pass-blocking fires and came through nearly unscathed.

Chad Clifton: Clifton allowed merely 2.5 sacks in his 15 starts last year. Only one was an individual effort sack. He also was called for just one offensive holding penalty. Green Bay quarterbacks threw 92 deep/bomb passes, so Clifton's pass-blocking skills were certainly tested quite frequently.

July 18 Glossary
Coverage sack: A sack that occurs in the pocket, three seconds or more after the snap.
Individual effort sack: This is a sack when a defender beats an offensive blocker in a one-on-one blocking situation.

Depth level: A measurement of how far downfield a receiver was on a pass attempt. It is measured from the point at which the receiver touched the ball. Short passes are 1-10 yards downfield, medium 11-19, deep 20-29 and bombs are 30+ yards downfield.

KC Joyner, aka The Football Scientist, is a regular contributor to ESPN Insider. His core passing metrics can be found in the ESPN Fantasy Football Magazine, which hits newsstands on June 19. A free sample of his latest release ("Scientific Football 2007") is available at his Web site.
 

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I can't say for certain, but I'd imagine a large amount of those sacks came early in the year, as Flo came back and Drew was unfortunately dreadful.
 

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These things rely solely on his "metrics". It doesn't take into account that he was returning from an ACL injury or that his QB for part of the season was the least elusive player in the NFL.
 

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superpunk;1554618 said:
I can't say for certain, but I'd imagine a large amount of those sacks came early in the year, as Flo came back and Drew was unfortunately dreadful.
Well he said that 4 were "individual effort sacks" which means they occured before 3 seconds was up so it's not all Drew Bledsoe's fault.

But a little clarification would be nice, I would like to know what weeks they were in, who was sacked and who did the sacking.
 

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Well atleast Adams is keeping some pretty good company on that list.
 

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I would take only getting one holding call for any lineman. That is exceptional, especially for a tackle. He wasn't singled out for a chop block. It was the running back. I think it was Barber. That fact is overlooked by Joyner. Like SP said, most of the sacks were early with Drew at the helm.

Flozell is solid when healthy. He was not 100% early, but was late in the season. He is not spectacular and no one ranks him as spectacular. That is why he was not on the pro bowl roster to begin with. Only there due to injury to the guys in front of him. And if he is not seen as spectacular, then how can he be over rated? I just don't see how it applies. Of course I am on a Cowboys board where everyone says he has to play better, so I see only a few over rating him.
 

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The metrics basically point out that he's mediocre as a pass blocker, which is true. Is he 'overrated'? Yeah, if you take into consideration that he played in the Pro Bowl. However, he could be underrated by some Cowboy fans who call him one of the worst LT's in the league. He's neither a Pro Bowl player or one of the worst tackles in the league .. he's just mediocre. Maybe above mediocre once you factor in run blocking.
 

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I agree that Flo is generally overrated (especially among Cowboy fans), but not for the reasons stated.
 

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Adams has never been considered a great pass-blocker.

And Joyner is wrong about Adams being called for a crackback block -- not only was he never called for it, and offensive tackle CAN'T be called for a crackback block. The rule applies ONLY to players lined up "more than two yards laterally outside an offensive tackle." So until we start splitting Flozell out wide, it'll be impossible for him to be called for a crackback block.

Adams was never called for anything but holding (once, in the season opener) and false starts.
 

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Face it guys - Flo can look like a statue as speed rushers blow by him, and that isn't just something that developed after the injury.
 

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Stautner;1554741 said:
Face it guys - Flo can look like a statue as speed rushers blow by him, and that isn't just something that developed after the injury.

Sure and most realize that. That is why I question how he can be over rated. He is what he is.
 

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AdamJT13;1554702 said:
Adams has never been considered a great pass-blocker.

And Joyner is wrong about Adams being called for a crackback block -- not only was he never called for it, and offensive tackle CAN'T be called for a crackback block. The rule applies ONLY to players lined up "more than two yards laterally outside an offensive tackle." So until we start splitting Flozell out wide, it'll be impossible for him to be called for a crackback block.

Adams was never called for anything but holding (once, in the season opener) and false starts.

I missed that. I just subconsciously inserted "chop block" instead of "crackblock" because I am sure that is what he meant. He was still wrong.
 

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joseephuss;1554784 said:
I missed that. I just subconsciously inserted "chop block" instead of "crackblock" because I am sure that is what he meant. He was still wrong.

Adams wasn't called for a chop block, either. I'm not sure what he's talking about.
 

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Break down his sacks from early to late in season, and from when Romo was in vs Bledsoe. THEN you have a real picture.
 

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Sometimes it seems like Joyner and his metrics are about as relevant as the metric system in this country. :rolleyes:
 

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joseephuss;1554778 said:
Sure and most realize that. That is why I question how he can be over rated. He is what he is.

Overrated because he made the Pro-Bowl.

Cowboy fans may know it, but apparently the rest of the NFL hasn't completely figured it out.
 

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zeromaster;1555002 said:
Sometimes it seems like Joyner and his metrics are about as relevant as the metric system in this country. :rolleyes:

He relies too heavily on his metrics. There are other stats out there that are very applicable to the evaluation process. There is also much to be gained from watching the games. He just seems to rely only on his metrics. The metrics are a good tool, but not the only one and certainly not the best one.
 

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Stautner;1555007 said:
Overrated because he made the Pro-Bowl.

Cowboy fans may know it, but apparently the rest of the NFL hasn't completely figured it out.

I think the rest of the NFL has figured it out. He only made the pro bowl as an injury replacement. I am not sure how many NFC tackles missed the game in order for Flozell to make the roster, but he wasn't one of the top 3 or 4 tackles in the NFC in votes. Plus the teams that play Dallas sure wish that Torrin Tucker was still playing tackle.
 
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