ESPN: No surprises when ranking the top QBs in the NFL (Romo #6)

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The Patriots with Tom Brady and the Colts with Peyton Manning are the obvious choices at No. 1 and No. 2, respectively. Should the Cowboys with Tony Romo be in the top five? Do the Giants with Eli Manning, who was the Super Bowl MVP, deserve to be in the top 10? The answers may surprise you.

1. New England Patriots
There are only two teams in the running for this honor, and we gave Brady the slight nod over Manning simply because Brady has more Super Bowl rings and surpassed Manning's touchdown record this past season. Both quarterbacks just keep getting better and better as they one-up each other. Brady put together an unheard of 50-to-8 touchdown-to-interception ratio last season while leading his team to a perfect regular-season record. His production did fall off over the last six games of the regular season, but overall, Brady was simply terrific once again. He is a tremendous competitor without a conscience.

Matt Cassel is Brady's backup, but in a somewhat shocking move, the Patriots used the 94th overall selection in the 2008 draft on Kevin O'Connell from San Diego State, which isn't exactly known as a football factory. The Patriots never do anything on a whim, so this selection warrants watching over the next several years. Cassel had better watch his back.
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2. Indianapolis Colts
We all are extremely fortunate to be able to watch both Brady and Manning in the prime of their illustrious careers. Few have done it as well, and it isn't far fetched to think these two future Hall of Famers will go down as the two best players to ever play the most important position on the football field. It is almost criminal to be forced to choose between these two, and finding weaknesses in either Brady's or Manning's overall game is an extremely difficult, cumbersome chore. As great as Brady is, no player in the league means more to his team than Manning.

Jim Sorgi is Manning's backup and has been since 2004. He knows the system and holds a clipboard as well as anyone in recent memory, but if Manning were, for whatever reason, to miss the season, Indianapolis would be lucky to win five games. Fortunately and amazingly, Manning has started every game for this franchise in the past 10 years and has thrown 168 touchdowns over the past five, never dipping below 26 per season since joining the league. Manning is a machine.
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3. Pittsburgh Steelers
It is becoming clear that Ben Roethlisberger is the next-best quarterback. Physically, he is the prototype for the position. He gets the most out of his natural gifts with his uncanny ability to buy extra time in the pocket and use his powerful right arm to drive the ball downfield when a play breaks down. He is an excellent deep thrower and is difficult to get on the ground; although he takes too many sacks in an effort to make the big play, he is better than anyone once the script goes out the window. He forces secondaries to cover much longer than they are accustomed to.

As a rookie, he led the Steelers to a 15-1 record. In his second year, he led the Steelers to a win in the Super Bowl. After a motorcycle accident, 2006 was a bit of a wash, but he rebounded in a huge way in 2007 and usually was the best player on the field. Few quarterbacks have accomplished so much so quickly. Backup Charlie Batch cannot be overlooked in this conversation, because he has proved he can lead the Steelers to victory when Roethlisberger is sidelined -- although the Steelers become much more conservative with Batch in the game. With Roethlisberger's aggressive play and the punishment he takes, having a trusted backup is paramount for Pittsburgh.
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4. New Orleans Saints
While the Saints' group of weapons and coach Sean Payton get a lot of credit for New Orleans' high-powered offense, QB Drew Brees makes this group look better than it is. For some reason, he usually isn't mentioned among the top signal-callers in the league after Brady and Manning, but that is a massive mistake. He is cerebral and tough and has pinpoint accuracy. Brees doesn't wow you from a physical standpoint, but he understands the game, is in the prime of his career and gets the ball out of his hands on time to a variety of options. He takes very few sacks.

Brees struggled mightily during the first four games of this past season but rebounded in a big way, throwing 27 touchdowns in the last 12 games. Only Brady threw for more yardage than the pass-happy Brees. Behind him, New Orleans has a pair of lefties in veteran Mark Brunell and youngster Tyler Palko. Both are heady and tough but lack big arms, which isn't a major drawback in this offense. Still, Brees is far and away the most indispensable player on New Orleans' roster and a top signal-caller in this league.
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5. Cincinnati Bengals
Few players in the league can spin the football like Carson Palmer. He is an elite talent who throws the football as well as any quarterback in recent memory. He has great size and a tremendous arm and is deadly accurate. He is tough and competitive and never has missed a start. While his surrounding circumstances have not been ideal, he also must do a better job of playing within himself and not putting the burden of the entire team on his shoulders. He has dealt with a somewhat dysfunctional situation in Cincinnati, including poor route running, suspect pass protection and lack of a rushing attack, all of which has had a negative effect on the team. Since he has forced throws when he has felt he must do it all himself, he has turned over the ball with too much regularity the past two seasons. Palmer can be as good as anyone on this list but could drop if he doesn't get his team on track.

The addition of TE Ben Utecht could pay heavy dividends because he is capable of being a force over the middle and near the end zone. Defenses were able to focus their attention on the perimeter last year, but this year should be different. Expect a big rebound season from Palmer and for him to exceed 4,000 yards through the air for the third straight year -- unless the wheels fall off this entire organization.
Ryan Fitzpatrick is the top backup. He showed flashes while in St. Louis, but he has yet to start a game in a Bengals uniform and clearly would be a massive downgrade from Palmer. Fitzpatrick is smart and could be an adequate caretaker quarterback at best, but the Bengals do not have the rushing attack to make that work and are reliant on Palmer's right arm.
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6. Dallas Cowboys
Romo threw for 4,211 yards this past season and completed 36 touchdown passes. The numbers he put together went more unnoticed than they should have because of what Brady was doing in New England, but Romo lit up the scoreboard. His winning percentage as a starting quarterback is stunning. So why aren't the Cowboys' quarterbacks ranked higher? First off, Romo is surrounded by a lot of talent and has yet to win a playoff game in his two seasons behind center. All of that blame cannot be thrust on Romo alone, but he does need to prove he can elevate the play of his team in crucial situations to be ranked among the top players at this position.

Also, we would like to see a bigger overall body of work. He sees the field very well, is light on his feet in avoiding pressure and doesn't hesitate to push the ball deep downfield. He threw 19 interceptions last year, but eight of those picks came in two games, which shows he still is hit or miss. His pension for fading down the stretch certainly is worrisome, and he faces a brutal schedule in 2008. While Romo is just getting started, backup Brad Johnson's best days are long behind him, and a young signal-caller needs to be groomed.
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7. Philadelphia Eagles
Coming off an ACL injury, Donovan McNabb was a shell of himself during the first half of the 2007 season. He was immobile and unable to create plays with his feet or avoid the rush, but he also didn't stride into his throws in the pocket like he had in the past. Clearly, he was not confident in his rebuilt knee. The second half of the season was a different story, though, as his knee healed and he became more trusting of it. Even with his early season struggles, McNabb threw only seven interceptions in Andy Reid's pass-happy attack. Few value the football as well.

Expect McNabb to continue his fine play in 2008, as the Eagles will face an easier schedule and he should have plenty of familiar weapons to distribute the ball to. TE L.J. Smith's return should help in the red zone, which was a major problem area last year. His best running days are behind him, but he has a great understanding of this offense and is an intelligent distributor of the football.
Bolstering the overall rank of the Eagles' quarterbacks is Kevin Kolb, who is waiting for his turn behind McNabb. While it is unclear when Kolb will get his shot at live action, he is a fine prospect who should flourish in this offense. A.J. Feeley also is one of the best No. 3 quarterbacks in the league today. Expect McNabb to perform like a Pro Bowler this upcoming year, but his injury history is concerning, so this quarterback depth is essential.
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8. Jacksonville Jaguars
Jack Del Rio made an extremely bold move right before the 2007 season by releasing Byron Leftwich and inserting David Garrard as his starting quarterback -- and wow, did it ever pay off. While he benefits from an excellent ground attack, Garrard has become an ultra-efficient signal-caller who keeps plays alive with his legs while combining good decision-making and accuracy. He missed time with a high ankle sprain but posted respectable numbers as a first-year starter who threw only three interceptions on the season. In fact, based on the 11 full games in which he played, Garrard was on pace to throw for more than 3,500 yards while spreading the ball to many options.

Few realized just how good Garrard was a year ago, and he now is far more than just a caretaker. He could improve on his game-management skills, but remember, he is just a one-year starter and does show good overall poise and intelligence despite the lack of starting experience. He also is clearly the leader of this team and has all the faith of his teammates, his coaches and the front office. A full offseason as the starter, along with a lucrative new contract, will do Garrard a world of good. With new receivers on board, expect the Jaguars to go deep more this season. Cleo Lemon is the backup and a slightly above-average one at that. Jacksonville is well equipped at the position.
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9. Seattle Seahawks
This past season, the Seahawks lacked a running game they could rely on, and Mike Holmgren chose to put the offense squarely on Matt Hasselbeck's shoulders. He didn't disappoint, throwing for 3,966 yards while being intercepted only 12 times. Hasselbeck is an excellent decision-maker and can be aggressive without sacrificing accuracy. His toughness often goes overlooked, and he regularly plays with pain. However -- and this doesn't distract from Hasselbeck's ranking on this list -- Seattle's weaponry isn't anywhere near what it was a year ago. And it is questionable whether the running game has been much improved.

Even more stress to perform could be placed on Hasselbeck in 2008, and he will have to find soft spots in the defense and spread the ball around more adeptly than in the past. Seneca Wallace and Charlie Frye are the backups. Wallace is a superb athlete who could see more time at wideout this season if Frye proves capable. Trading for Frye could end up being a shrewd move, because his lack of arm strength would not be a major liability in this offense, and the change of scenery surely will do Frye good.
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10. Cleveland Browns
This is a quarterback-friendly offense, but you have to respect what Derek Anderson accomplished in his first year as a starter. However, Brady Quinn still is waiting in the wings, and that makes ranking Cleveland's quarterback tandem difficult.

In Anderson, the Browns have a tall, strong-armed passer who performed very well early in the season by getting the ball out quickly and making sound decisions. But, as the season went along, the true Anderson began to appear, as he rushed his throws and made too many poor choices with the football. Behind an elite offensive line, with a solid running game and outstanding options to throw the ball to, forcing the issue and turning the ball over simply will not do. He is fortunate to throw to such large receivers with fantastic catching radiuses. Overall, he runs too hot and cold, and Browns fans got a taste of both last year. Anderson was at his best when little was expected of him. Plus, he didn't handle the playoff run or poor weather well, which aren't good traits in Cleveland.
Of course, Quinn remains a relative unknown, but he has good mental makeup, poise, strength and athletic ability. If Anderson had played better late in the year, Cleveland would have been in the playoffs. In any case, this is a good situation to have at the most important position on the field, and many teams would do cartwheels to get either Anderson or Quinn right now. Either quarterback might end up posting top numbers in this offense, and both quarterbacks still are very young. Scouts Inc. watches games, breaks down film and studies football from all angles for ESPN.com.
 

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Giants' QB situation is best of the rest

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Updated: July 7, 2008

The Giants with Eli Manning just miss making the top 10, while a resurgent Jake Delhomme and the Panthers come in at No. 16. Plus, Kansas City, Miami and Chicago all were in the running to be ranked No. 32, but you might be surprised who receives that dubious honor.

11. New York Giants
We know, we know, Manning has broken out. He led the Giants through a fantastic playoff run that ended with New York upsetting the undefeated Patriots and hoisting the Lombardi trophy. And we know many of the starting quarterbacks listed ahead of the younger Manning on this list do not have rings on their fingers. However, we want to see him do it for an entire season before we put him closer to the top. This is a player who managed only a 23-to-20 touchdown-to-interception ratio last year and a player many Giants fans wanted out of the Big Apple as recently as midway through last season. He threw just 19 touchdowns over the first 15 games of 2007, and Manning has completed only 57 percent of his passes over the past two seasons.

New York might end up in the top five in these rankings one year from now, but for now, let's not get carried away with the former first-overall selection and a suspect group of backups. The way Manning stepped up as a leader when it mattered most was impressive, and the arrow on his career is pointing up as we enter the 2008 season. Needless to say, if David Carr ever has to play, bad things will happen, and the New York media will destroy his already-damaged psyche. Like his older brother, Manning has proved quite durable and is tougher than usually given credit for.
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12. Denver Broncos
Jay Cutler is an up-and-comer with loads of ability. He is well built with fantastic arm strength and can make plays with his feet within the pocket or on the run. He was diagnosed with diabetes this offseason, which explained his substantial weight loss during the 2007 season. With that ailment now under control, Cutler should be even better going forward. He shows the ability to carry his football team. He doesn't let his mistakes linger and has ultimate confidence in his abilities. He is fantastic outside the pocket, and he threw fewer interceptions as the season progressed.

Cutler takes some risks he shouldn't and tends to turn the ball over when he throws off his back foot, but all in all, he has a very bright future, and Denver finally has found its heir to John Elway. Patrick Ramsey probably is one of the top 10 backups in this league and could get the Broncos through a game or two. If WR Brandon Marshall misses any time due to suspension or his arm injury, it could have a dramatic effect on Cutler and the Broncos' passing game, even though Denver does face a very favorable schedule.
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13. Houston Texans
The Texans have the makings of a high-flying offense if WR Andre Johnson is healthy. QB Matt Schaub also is a durability risk after taking an awful beating in his first year as Houston's signal-caller. While he has good height and can see the whole field, Schaub isn't thickly built and needs to prove he can withstand the punishment at this key position. He played only seven full games last year and just a small portion of four others. Schaub had Johnson at his disposal in only four of those seven games, and he still managed to throw for 2,241 yards and average 264 yards through the air in the games he played start to finish. Needless to say, those translate to big numbers over the course of an entire season.

Schaub is poised, crisp with his decisions and accurate. The Texans also have Sage Rosenfels waiting in the wings. He spelled Schaub quite effectively last season and very well could be the top backup quarterback in the league. This is a good situation, and this offense will score plenty of points, but only if Johnson stays on the field. Expect Schaub to have a monster season.
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14. San Diego Chargers
Philip Rivers held the talented Chargers back early in the season but, to his credit, played very well down the stretch and throughout the playoffs. He also showed great toughness with his willingness to play with a torn ACL. He now is recovering from that injury, but it could slow him down in 2008. Rivers has good size but a very unorthodox throwing motion. He gets the ball out quickly and has slightly above-average arm strength. He isn't a threat to make plays with his legs.

Rivers tends to feel phantom pressure and get happy feet, which has negative effects on his mechanics and accuracy. His emotions can get the better of him on the field. This will be Rivers' second season under Norv Turner, and he has more weapons at his disposal than any other signal-caller on this list. If he plays within himself and limits the bad plays, the Chargers will be tough to beat. If Rivers' knee is an issue early in the season, Billy Volek is the top backup. He struggled last year but can add a spark to an offense. The Chargers also have a good-looking developmental quarterback, Charlie Whitehurst, who could surprise if given the opportunity.
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15. St. Louis Rams
Marc Bulger is an experienced precision passer who doesn't have outstanding physical traits but does have uncanny accuracy with a career 63.5 completion percentage. He is undersized and has been injury prone, and he is one of those quarterbacks who needs a strong supporting cast around him. When he has that cast, he can be deadly, placing catchable passes exactly where they need to be. Without that cast and with a suspect offensive line, his penchant for holding the ball can be exposed, as it was this past season. It was just two years ago that Bulger totaled 4,301 passing yards. It is difficult to place blame on Bulger for the Rams' offensive woes last year, but he could be starting to decline.

Bulger broke his ribs in last year's season opener, and this will be a pivotal season in his career. Making matters worse, WR Torry Holt looks to be slightly declining as well, and this team lacks other weapons to frighten a defense. The addition of offensive coordinator Al Saunders could help matters, although the Rams will use Saunders' version of Mike Martz's offense, which could lead to plenty of hits on Bulger. Bulger has averaged 258.7 passing yards per game over his career, but this isn't the same group of weapons he once had. Behind Bulger, St. Louis recently signed Trent Green. After a dreadful and injury-plagued season in Miami, Green might be finished.
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16. Carolina Panthers
All reports concerning Delhomme's recovery from Tommy John surgery to repair his injured elbow have been positive, but it has to be a concern going forward. Delhomme didn't have the biggest arm to begin with, but some experts say this surgery results in a stronger arm when fully healed. We shall see. But, if healthy, Delhomme, 33, is primed for a huge year. The Panthers rebuilt their ailing offense this offseason, and opposing secondaries are going to have a far more difficult time keying on stud WR Steve Smith play after play. Delhomme understands just how dynamic Smith is and excels at getting his top weapon the football.

Delhomme is a tough guy with good leadership traits. He can be streaky, but when he is on, he is exceptional. When he is off, he can force too many throws and hurt his team, but the improved supporting cast, particularly the revamped running game, should help him get out of these funks. While he started only three games last season, Delhomme was on fire during that stretch, his first season in Jeff Davidson's offense. Expect more of the same this year, if his elbow holds up.
As far as backups go, the Panthers might have uncovered a gem in Matt Moore. He isn't going to set the world on fire, but he played well with impressive pocket presence when given the chance and has the look of a very solid No. 2 signal-caller in the short term and a potential starter down the road.
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17. Arizona Cardinals
The Cardinals have a two-headed monster at the quarterback position. That is both good and bad. The organization is committed to Matt Leinart, and he will be given an opportunity to reach his starting potential this season. That is the right move at this point, because 37-year-old Kurt Warner clearly is not a long-term answer. However, Warner was far more effective in Ken Whisenhunt's offense last season, and this league is about winning now.

Leinart might be too soft for Whisenhunt's taste. Whisenhunt went so far as to rotate the two signal-callers during the few games both players were healthy. Leinart broke his collarbone in Week 5, which ended his season. Prior to the injury, Leinart was less than impressive, but it is too early to write him off, and he did finish his rookie season quite strong. He is a good touch passer with the charisma needed to succeed at this level, but he needs a lot of help with his fundamentals and simply has to decipher faster. Neither quarterback is mobile, but Warner did get far more from the Cardinals' fantastic pair of wide receivers than Leinart.
Warner excels at using his weapons to their fullest, particularly as a deep thrower, and should be ready to do just that if Leinart stumbles. In the last six games of the 2007 season, Warner posted serious fireworks to the tune of 1,892 passing yards and 16 touchdowns. Over a full season, that extrapolates to more than 5,000 yards and 42 touchdowns through the air. Warner is notorious for turning the ball over, though. One -- or a combination of both -- of these quarterbacks might light it up this year.
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18. Tennessee Titans
Vince Young will have to learn a new system this year under new offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger, but the change might do him a lot of good. He is tall, well built and a terrific athlete who can improvise and threaten a defense with his feet. Young also has a little magic to him that is difficult to quantify. He did take a step backward last season. His mobility was limited from a quad injury, while defenses restricted him within the pocket in his second season. This forced Young to become more of a thrower, which isn't his strong suit. His accuracy isn't up to par, and he isn't a consistent player, yet.

While Young has his shortcomings, it cannot be forgotten that Tennessee has ignored the acquisition of respectable weapons to help Young with his development. His dismal 9-to-16 touchdown-to-interception ratio is worrisome. But the Titans did reach the postseason last year, and he is a player who should only get better. There is no question he can make highlight-reel plays, but his anticipation and footwork are sketchy. Heimerdinger will help.
Behind Young, the Titans have Kerry Collins, a veteran who is the opposite of Young in just about all aspects of the game. Collins did have a major role in getting Tennessee into the postseason last year, and he can still sling the rock. It should not be overlooked that Young lost his father last year.
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19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The Buccaneers do not have a shortage of quarterbacks. Jeff Garcia is making waves about his contract, but he surely will be behind center this year. However, he is 38 years old and probably isn't long for this league. While he did go to the Pro Bowl last year, he faded in a big way down the stretch when Tampa Bay needed him most, with a back injury being at least partially to blame. Garcia is a terrific decision-maker who sees the field well, but he can get out of control at times and can no longer be considered a top playmaker, despite his agility and willingness to keep plays alive. The fact that Garcia threw just four interceptions last season says a lot about his value to this organization. He takes few sacks and keeps drives alive, but he doesn't have the big arm to drive the ball down the field. Last year's numbers might be as good as it gets for Garcia going forward.

Josh Johnson is going to be a very good player. It won't be this year, but before long, this will be Johnson's team. He is exactly what Jon Gruden wants out of the quarterback position, with a fine blend of athleticism and playmaking ability, and the ability to deliver the ball accurately. Luke McCown, Brian Griese and Chris Simms also are on the roster, so Johnson will not see action this year. Simms likely will play elsewhere, and Griese will be an adequate backup. Garcia isn't a model of durability, so chances are one of these backup signal-callers will see action this season.
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20. Washington Commanders
Despite being 27 years old, Jason Campbell still needs to be classified as a prospect when it comes to ranking quarterbacks. He has been forced to learn a new offensive system just about every season since he enrolled at the University of Auburn -- and he has to do it again this year. This is hardly the right way to bring along a starting quarterback. While we are very fond of his makeup, poise and physical talents, judging him seems unjust at this point. It could be argued that the Commanders were a better offense with Todd Collins behind center last season, while Campbell was out with a season-ending knee injury, but clearly, Campbell is the superior all-around player with the potential to rank high on this list. What worries us going forward is his ability to fit into Jim Zorn's West Coast system, which is based on quick, timed throws.

Campbell did well in a similar system at Auburn, and the SEC is far and away the most difficult conference in college football, but playing against Alabama and Florida is much different than making quick, precision throws against the Dallas Cowboys or the New York Giants. The reason for our pessimism is that Campbell is at his best when he uses his big arm to push the ball deep downfield, and his skill set doesn't match the latest change in offense particularly well. But we do not doubt his talent. He still is adjusting to the speed of the game, deciphering coverages and making decisions. He remains a work in progress but can make some throws that will make your jaw drop.
While the Commanders were aggressive in adding plenty of firepower on draft day, their overall pass-catching talent is probably a year away from being dangerous. A healthy Santana Moss can make big plays, and Chris Cooley is ultra-reliable, but next year is when this passing game could shine.
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21. Green Bay Packers
Aaron Rodgers is capable of leading this offense and scoring a lot of points with this supporting cast. He is a former first-round pick who has been groomed for this day and has been fortunate enough to learn from a great one. Rodgers also has a strong running game to back him up and more weapons than he will be able to keep happy. Of course there is some mystery and speculation here, but Rodgers is in an excellent situation. Expect him to rank far higher up this list one year from now. Remember, although it feels like he has been around a long time, Rodgers is only 24 years old. He is more athletic than he usually is given credit for, is a good deep passer, throws a catchable ball and gets it out quick. Those traits, matched with his familiarity in this offense, should make him dangerous. He is not a rookie and might do a better job than Brett Favre of staying within the framework of Mike McCarthy's game plan.

This offense can attack a defense quite effectively from many personnel groupings, and Rodgers will find plenty of matchups to his liking. There are some concerns about Rodgers' ability to stay healthy, and he will not mount a Favre-like consecutive starts streak due to his somewhat-slight frame, but labeling him fragile is jumping the gun. It also cannot be overlooked that Green Bay used a late-second-round draft pick on Brian Brohm. While this could be taken as a lack of confidence in Rodgers, it could also be looked at as the Packers pouncing on the best player in the draft. Brohm does fit this system extremely well and could flourish in time if given the chance.
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22. Buffalo Bills
Trent Edwards didn't light up the scoreboard in his rookie season and doesn't have a monster arm, but he is smart and shows poise beyond his years in the pocket. He is a better quarterback than his stat line indicates but also isn't a sure thing as a starting quarterback at this level for the long term. Let's not overlook this stat line: He started eight games and threw just seven touchdowns, with four of those coming against the hapless Dolphins. He threw a touchdown pass in only three of the 10 games in which he appeared. His rookie season was somewhat impressive, though, and he has the look of a solid, game-managing quarterback, which fits what Buffalo wants to do.

While he doesn't light it up, few bad plays happen with him in the game. He sees the field and gets the ball out quick. There were concerns about his durability coming out of college, and he did injure his wrist last season, which raises a red flag with the length of the NFL season and rigors he will face. His ordinary arm strength also is a concern, considering that the city in which he plays and the fact that he isn't a great deep thrower severely limit WR Lee Evans' contributions.
J.P. Losman has as much physical ability as any quarterback in this league. He is athletic and has a powerful right arm to drive the ball deep downfield through the elements in Buffalo. However, his feel for the game is poor, and he has not shown the instincts required to thrive in this league. His decision-making has been a continual problem, which makes him a poor fit in Dick Jauron's ball-control offense. Losman needs a change of scenery.
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23. Detroit Lions
Jon Kitna is a pocket passer who holds the ball too long, takes too many sacks and has limited physical gifts, but he is tough and respected by his teammates. He deserves an awful lot of credit for playing 16 games last season despite the beating he took behind a dreadful offensive line. As he was in Cincinnati, he is the ideal guy to groom a stud quarterback prospect, but he isn't the guy you want as your starter. Kitna makes throws that make you want to pull your hair out. With him turning 36 during the season, it would not be a surprise if Drew Stanton saw time behind center.

Stanton's rookie season was a wash due to a knee injury, but he is a prospect Detroit could turn to once the season goes downhill, as it usually does. Stanton has above-average athletic ability for his size, enough arm strength, great intelligence and toughness with a fearless approach to playing quarterback. While the Lions' players admire Kitna's toughness, they soon will learn to respect Stanton's grit as well. Expect him to be the starter by season's end. Whoever is playing quarterback in Detroit absolutely must feature WRs Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson for any chance of success.
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24. Baltimore Ravens
Cam Cameron is an excellent offensive coordinator and a renowned developer of young quarterbacks, including Brees and Rivers. That bodes well for first-round selection Joe Flacco. He has tremendous height and a cannon for a right arm, but playing the schedule he faced at the University of Delaware is a long way from quickly diagnosing Pittsburgh's zone-blitz principles. Flacco shows promise but should be brought along slowly. That doesn't mean that he won't or shouldn't start games this year, but the speed of the game at this level will be a culture shock.

The Ravens also have Kyle Boller, another former first-round selection with excellent tools, and Troy Smith, who possesses the intangibles to succeed and has the respect of his teammates. Boller has been given opportunities, but the addition of Cameron could do him well. For as aggressive as Boller is, that aggression rarely results in big plays. He has a chance to surprise, but Smith is the more interesting option. Boller's more likely role is to hold down the fort until Flacco is ready. Smith is a top-notch athlete for the position with developing recognition skills and accuracy. Most importantly, he is as tough as they come and extremely competitive.
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25. Oakland Raiders
JaMarcus Russell is only 22 years old, and his holdout last year put him behind the eight ball before he got started. Russell didn't play a ton of football at LSU, and his learning curve will be steep, particularly behind Oakland's offense line and with the shortage of quality wide receivers. His decision-making leaves a lot to be desired, and he will have to be coached up. His ability to read a defense is a serious question, but there is a lot to like about Russell. He has probably the biggest arm in the league and can make with ease throws that many other starting quarterbacks would not attempt.

He also has tremendous size for the position and should be able to handle the physical rigors of playing quarterback at this level. Russell is difficult to get on the ground. There is a lot of risk-reward here; his learning curve will be steep, but few quarterbacks have possessed his tools. He should have a lot of football ahead of him. The Raiders' ground attack should be formidable -- maybe even lethal -- and that will help Russell a great deal, as will dumping the ball to Darren McFadden out of the backfield.
Andrew Walter is a tall, heavy-footed pocket passer who is coming off a knee injury. He was drafted several coaches ago, but Al Davis likes his ability to stretch the field. There is a good chance he will see live action at some point this season, but he would be a sitting duck behind the Raiders' poor pass protection.
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26. Atlanta Falcons
The Falcons have a new face for their franchise in first-round selection Matt Ryan. He was tremendous in his senior season at Boston College and made all of the ordinary talent around him much better. The Falcons are praying for the same out of him, sooner rather than later. Ryan has good size and decent arm strength, but his intangibles and toughness are his best attributes. He also is accurate and throws with good touch. He is mature and will not embarrass the organization off the field, which obviously is important in Atlanta right now while Michael Vick sits in a jail cell. Ryan is an excellent prospect.

While he was playing in New England, many wanted to compare Ryan to Tom Brady, but let's not get carried away here. Ryan will find himself with an adequate group of pass-catchers to distribute the ball to, but his pass protection will ensure he will take plenty of crushing hits. At this point, it looks like Ryan should have the mental toughness to handle this rocky transition, but many said the same thing about David Carr when he entered the league.
Atlanta will lean on Michael Turner and its running game, but Ryan's adjustment to this level will not be an easy one. Chris Redman is an immobile place-holder at the position until Ryan gets up to speed. Redman had some decent outings last year, can manage an offense and values the football, but he is a No. 2 at best. Remember that he was out of the league for three seasons before being resurrected by Bobby Petrino. Joey Harrington played well early on but imploded as he tends to do. He is, at best, a short-term fix in any circumstance. Making matters worse, the Falcons face a brutal group of pass defenses this upcoming season, making the rookie's task that much more difficult.
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27. New York Jets
There is an open competition for the Jets' starting quarterback position, but Chad Pennington has to be considered the early favorite. His much-publicized lack of arm strength is a hindrance, he isn't very mobile and he isn't built to take a pounding, but he can be an efficient short-to-intermediate passer who keeps the chains moving. His 69 percent completion rate deserves mentioning, although many of his throws were short. If New York can run the ball behind its rebuilt offensive line, that kind of proficiency will prove to be valuable. However, there is very little upside with Pennington at this stage of his career.

Kellen Clemens took over for Pennington in Week 9 in 2007. He was less than impressive from that point on, although the Jets' supporting cast certainly didn't help his cause as he transitioned to the NFL. Clemens is well built and is a solid athlete. His arm strength is borderline, and his pocket presence is troublesome. There still is hope for Clemens, but Pennington is the better of the two quarterbacks right now and should start the season behind center. The Jets took a win-now approach to their offseason, and Pennington certainly gives New York the better opportunity to accomplish that feat.
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28. Minnesota Vikings
Minnesota was 8-4 with Tarvaris Jackson as the starting signal-caller in 2007, but he has been less than impressive in that role. He has shown flashes and has improved as he gotten more experience. He is a tremendous athlete with a strong, powerful body and more than enough arm strength to make the throws asked of him. The Vikings limited Jackson's reads, and he is fortunate enough to have a spectacular running game for support. His feel for the position is suspect, and he hasn't shown he can do the little things well. Jackson is less than ideal, and his accuracy is a problem that will be difficult to correct. His deep passing ability in particular is an issue. Jackson also is a fumbler and has durability concerns. He tends to sense pressure that isn't there and throws off his back foot with far too much regularity.

Minnesota's quarterbacks were sacked 38 times in 2007, despite attempting the fewest passes in the league, a stat that doesn't lend itself to Jackson's pocket presence. After coming out of a small school, Jackson's grace period is over. This is a pivotal season for the Vikes signal-caller, and with the addition of WR Bernard Berrian and the development of Sidney Rice, the wideouts should be greatly improved from last year. Gus Frerotte, 37, was signed as insurance. He saw a good bit of action for the Rams last year and wasn't bashful. He put up good numbers but made far too many suspect decisions. Forcing the issue and turning the ball over will not make him a good fit with the Vikings. Minnesota also drafted John David Booty this year. The rookie could surprise as he comes from a superb college program, is a precise passer and throws well on the move. Although he lacks Frerotte's experience, Booty will be the better fit of the two backups once he gets his feet wet.
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29. San Francisco 49ers
Alex Smith seemed to be coming into his own in 2006 but took massive steps backward last season. His offense was very little help, and he suffered a shoulder injury from which he returned too early. He simply played poorly, which allowed opposing defenses to key heavily on the run. Smith could come back very strong this season with Martz as San Francisco's new offensive coordinator. This will be Smith's fourth offense to learn in his four NFL seasons, which makes proper maturation difficult. While Smith has been a poor deep passer, that deficiency might not cripple him in this new offense, which is predicated on timing, touch and trusting the receivers. Smith is very bright and is a decent decision-maker who should only improve with his assessment of where to go with the ball. He also is athletic enough to make plays on the move and create when the play breaks down.

It is questionable whether the 49ers' other offensive positions have been upgraded from last year. The offensive line and receiver depth are big problems. Smith still is only 24 years old, and he does have some pedigree as the first overall selection in the 2005 draft. It is tough to overlook last year's dismal 48.7 completion percentage. He also holds the ball far too long, thinks instead of reacts and looks frenetic in the pocket. His arm strength wasn't great to begin with, and now he is coming off shoulder surgery.
Shaun Hill was a pleasant surprise in 2007. He didn't rush, took what was given to him and seized his opportunity. He lacks special qualities but has the look of a competent backup who can hold down the fort for short stretches. Martz also brought J.T. O'Sullivan with him from Detroit.
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30. Chicago Bears
This situation is a mess, and Chicago did nothing to improve at the most important position on the field during the offseason. Making matters worse, few -- if any -- teams in the league have a worse set of wide receivers. Rex Grossman should be the starter, and while he was intriguing during 2006, when Chicago went to the Super Bowl, that was a long time ago. He is tough and has good arm strength, but one of Grossman's major deficiencies is his inability to recognize and handle the blitz. He takes far too many sacks. Grossman has his share of hot streaks when his confidence grows, but his inability to decipher coverages and feel pressure usually brings him back to earth. When he is cold, he is sub zero.

Kyle Orton is conservative -- maybe to a fault. He has good arm strength and can be an effective downfield passer, but he doesn't show the willingness to sling it when the opportunity arises. While Grossman is up and down, Orton is steadier. Grossman and Orton have a combined eight years of experience, all with the Bears. The leading passer for the Bears has changed in each of the past six seasons. It has become rather clear that neither Grossman nor Orton is the answer, but both players will get the chance to prove themselves once again. Maybe we will say the exact same thing one year from now.
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31. Miami Dolphins
A three-man competition for a team's starting quarterback spot usually is not a good sign. While there is potential in Miami with John Beck and rookie Chad Henne, there are serious questions about both young players, along with Josh McCown, who probably is the favorite to open the season due to his experience at this level. However, who is the quarterback of the future? Beck or Henne? Can McCown be a suitable starter in the meantime? These are questions Miami must figure out in this first season of its massive rebuilding project.

Beck is heady but overaged for a prospect and threw just one touchdown in his five games last season. Henne is tough with a big arm but struggles to get out of the way of a heavy rush. McCown's ability to move isn't a question. In fact, he was moved to wide receiver during his unmemorable stay in Detroit, but he is an improvisational quarterback who doesn't play that well in a system. All three quarterbacks will probably play this year, but Henne is the one to watch down the line. Hopefully for Miami's sake, Henne or one of these options will become the quarterback the Dolphins have not had since Dan Marino retired.
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32. Kansas City Chiefs
Several teams listed just slightly above have very good cases for this dubious last place honor. While it is unfair to judge Brodie Croyle completely on his performance behind Kansas City's dreadful offensive line last season, he didn't do much to inspire confidence. This isn't to say he definitely won't be the answer to the Chiefs' problem, but as he finished out the season as the Chiefs' starter, he looked overwhelmed, guiding the team to six straight losses. He battled injuries and needs to show his body can hold up at this level. He also had his share of durability issues at the University of Alabama. Last season, he locked on to WR Dwayne Bowe far too much and didn't utilize stud TE Tony Gonzalez nearly enough. Such patterns make defending Croyle very easy. His improvisational skills are worrisome, which is a big problem with his current pass protection, but he does have a big enough arm and is capable of developing into a solid deep thrower.

It looks like Tyler Thigpen will back up Croyle, which could place veteran Damon Huard on the trading block. There is a decent chance Thigpen will see action this year, because Croyle will have a hard time standing up to the beating he will take week after week. Or, Croyle could fail all together.

Thigpen puts the ball on the money and moves very well. His arm strength will hold him back and he needs seasoning, but he could improve this situation. Huard might be the best quarterback on the roster right now, but he needs a much stronger supporting cast than Kansas City has to be successful. His immobility also is a huge issue behind this line. The Chiefs are in a serious rebuilding mode, and Huard is not a long-term solution. He is best off in a better situation, which is anywhere else in the league.

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Thats fair.


Although Palmer is one of my favorites(reminds me of Aikman) he is getting a little bit of a pass
 

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The Panch;2138415 said:
Roethlisberger doesnt belong that high.
To put Garrard over Hassleback and Cutler over Schaub is a complete future and potential preference. Probably the same with Roethlisberger as well.
 

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The best 4 Quarterbacks in the league are, in no order, Brady, Manning, Palmer, Romo.


Watch the damn games.
 

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bsheeern;2138420 said:
To put Garrard over Hassleback and Cutler over Schaub is a complete future and potential preference. Probably the same with Roethlisberger as well.
That doesnt mean he goes ahead of Brees, Hasselbeck or Romo.
 

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Someone help me out; has Carson Palmer won a playoff game? If not, why does he seem to get a pass while Romo gets the business with far fewer starts?

Palmer has two of the better wide-outs in the game, but he has to shoulder the load while Romo is surrounded with talent?

Palmer's bad throws are "forced" due to having to shoulder the load, but Romo can be "hit or miss".

Sounds like some serious spin to me.
 

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Joe Rod;2138441 said:
Someone help me out; has Carson Palmer won a playoff game? If not, why does he seem to get a pass while Romo gets the business with far fewer starts?

Palmer has two of the better wide-outs in the game, but he has to shoulder the load while Romo is surrounded with talent?

Palmer's bad throws are "forced" due to having to shoulder the load, but Romo can be "hit or miss".

Sounds like some serious spin to me.

Excellent points!
 

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Romo has alot to prove this season. I still am hoping his fade last year had to do w/ a hand injury.
 

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Joe Rod;2138441 said:
Someone help me out; has Carson Palmer won a playoff game? If not, why does he seem to get a pass while Romo gets the business with far fewer starts?

Palmer has two of the better wide-outs in the game, but he has to shoulder the load while Romo is surrounded with talent?

Palmer's bad throws are "forced" due to having to shoulder the load, but Romo can be "hit or miss".

Sounds like some serious spin to me.

I agree with you.

I will even go a step farther by saying that Carson Palmer is the MOST OVERRATED PLAYER in the NFL. There is no way he is better than Tony Romo and he definately does not belong in the top 10, much less top 5. He is only the third best QB in the AFC North (would be last if Baltimore had a decent QB). Palmer is just another Jeff George.:starspin
 

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Joe Rod;2138441 said:
Someone help me out; has Carson Palmer won a playoff game?

He's 0-1. He was knocked out by a cheat shot to the knee after throwing one pass against Pittsburgh in 2005-06. He has missed the playoffs in each of the past two seasons (going 8-8 and 7-9).
 

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DWhite Fan;2138520 said:
I agree with you.

I will even go a step farther by saying that Carson Palmer is the MOST OVERRATED PLAYER in the NFL. There is no way he is better than Tony Romo and he definately does not belong in the top 10, much less top 5. He is only the third best QB in the AFC North (would be last if Baltimore had a decent QB). Palmer is just another Jeff George.:starspin
I don't know about that. I think Roethlisburger has a firm hold on that distinction. I could easily think of ten quarterbacks I would rather have and Palmer is one of them.
 

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DWhite Fan;2138520 said:
I agree with you.

I will even go a step farther by saying that Carson Palmer is the MOST OVERRATED PLAYER in the NFL. There is no way he is better than Tony Romo and he definately does not belong in the top 10, much less top 5. He is only the third best QB in the AFC North (would be last if Baltimore had a decent QB). Palmer is just another Jeff George.:starspin

You would take Derek Anderson over Palmer?

Palmer has already proven to be much better than Jeff George. He may indeed be over rated, but he is still pretty good and deserving of the top ten.

I don't care where so called experts rank Romo right now. I just hope he is part of the #1 team that is holding up a trophy in early February.
 

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No way Rothsenberger is better then Romo. It's not like he doesn't have a lot of talent on the Steelers, both in the running game and on defense. But he gets a bye cause Romo's Cowboys have more talent. Talent which nobody was talking about when Bledsoe was the QB. It's no coincidence that TO had 2nd best season of his career, that Witten had best season of his career, that our OL became one of NFL's best & that our offense became a jugernaunt much of 07 season. Romo's having so much talent around him is the same thing we heard when Aikman was the QB. How comes such comments seem only to apply to Dallas Cowboy QB? I guess Bradshaw & many other HOF QBs shouldn't be considered any good since they also had heck of a lot of talent behind them.

Finally as to why Romo 0-2 in playoffs seems to me the answer is obvious. He needs more field experience. Why do fans ignore the reality that P.Manning was an NFL starter for almost 6 season before he won his first playoff game? Even little brother Eli was a starter for 3 years before winning his first playoff game. Same goes for every other QB except Brady & Roth. But does anybody believe either QB wins playoff games & the SB if not for their defense. It seems painfully obvious to me that Cowboy fans either take Romo for granted; I guess they still haven't learned from the dose of reality we went through from 2001 thru mid 2006.
 

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CATCH17;2138421 said:
The best 4 Quarterbacks in the league are, in no order, Brady, Manning, Palmer, Romo.


Watch the damn games.

no order for who goes 1 & 2 those spots belong to Brady and Manning, 3 & 4 are also a toss up between Palmer and Romo. Theres no way Romo or Palmer are rated higher then Brady and Manning as of right now
 
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