Ezekiel Elliott on his legal fight: This is bigger than a suspension

[logan]

This also indicates that Goodel isn't holding anything over him. There is no "smoking gun" evidence that Goodel is going to whip out at the last moment.

Goodel was willing to brand an innocent man hust for the sake of perception. He needs to be run out of the NFL.

Innocence or guilt is irrelevant. The -only- thing that matters is whether or not the NFL properly followed the disciplinary procedures outlined in the CBA. The woman could come out and admit she made the whole thing up and it wouldn't matter at this point.

 

[River82]

Innocence or guilt is irrelevant. The -only- thing that matters is whether or not the NFL properly followed the disciplinary procedures outlined in the CBA. The woman could come out and admit she made the whole thing up and it wouldn't matter at this point.

The union did a horrible job standing up for the players when they negotiated that CBA. Utterly horrible

 

[stilltheguru88]

Someone tweet this to Stephen A. Smith.

Smith has been a clown for awhile now. Shame he turned into such a sellout

 

[Jarv]

Innocence or guilt is irrelevant. The -only- thing that matters is whether or not the NFL properly followed the disciplinary procedures outlined in the CBA. The woman could come out and admit she made the whole thing up and it wouldn't matter at this point.

Well i guess we'll find out. The word "fairness ". Has been bandied about by federal judges when talking about the process.

It would sure be a great story to see justice served. The more light shed on this story the better.

 

[Pants]

#FighttheFightZeke

 

[dogunwo]

See, this is what I've been talking about. This is what happens to even a good kid when you hang around Prescott for a year. Now suddenly he's more important than the team. Everything revolves around him. If the team suffers, so be it. And he wants to fight every day.

Cancer? That guy is locker room AIDS.

Swing and a miss. I like that you swing for the fences everytime though.

 

[Nightman]

It is a strange time with all the Hollywood sexual assault claims........ no one wants to appear to be on the side of an abuser..... that is what so unfair about Zeke's case..... so many real scumbags are out there...... no need to make an example of that you don't have to make up charges and a scapegoat

 

[TheHerd]

The court system is (theoretically) about justice and right + wrong (even when it isn't.) The NFL disciplinary process is rarely about justice and right + wrong, it's all about the game. Because of this he will lose regardless of how many pretty words he spouts, although some will consider the fight to be worth it. Individually it would be worth it, it's going to harm Dallas though. How people reconcile that will be up to them

It's always about the money. The NFL has even gone as far as corrupting the NY court system and making sure all the hearings end up there. Sponsors and the media driven protected groups want this, so it has to happen. It's a surreal time.

I'll be watching tomorrow because I really want to hear Romo, but my interest in the NFL is pretty low. This forum is my heroin, so I'll be on here always, but the NFL has basically lost me.

 

[TheHerd]

Well i guess we'll find out. The word "fairness ". Has been bandied about by federal judges when talking about the process.

It would sure be a great story to see justice served. The more light shed on this story the better.

The CBA includes the words "credible evidence". It's a sham to pretend there is credible evidence against Zeke.

 

[Verdict]

Some here suggested that if Goodell had compromised, maybe reduced the suspension, that this would have been over. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The man is innocent. He won't and wouldn't have accepted even a one-game suspension. Nor would I. Accepting a compromise means accepting guilt, and if he's innocent, then he should be expected to battle to the very end.

You are naive to think this cany be settled. They could settle for some sort of punishment that does not involve a finding of domestic violence for a fine, or a lesser suspension. Zeke may or may not take that but if I were advising him I would say you have to take a really hard look at settling if it doesn't have a DV component to it. Two games or less, and he gets to pick when they happen. I think Zeke would take that in a minute.

If I were the NFL I would NOT let this go to trial. Far too much for the NFL to lose in the ZEKE case, and if they have any sense at all from this point forward they should at least ACT LIKE they are giving players a fair shot.

 

[Verdict]

It's always about the money. The NFL has even gone as far as corrupting the NY court system and making sure all the hearings end up there. Sponsors and the media driven protected groups want this, so it has to happen. It's a surreal time.

I'll be watching tomorrow because I really want to hear Romo, but my interest in the NFL is pretty low. This forum is my heroin, so I'll be on here always, but the NFL has basically lost me.

No the liberal media may be pushing an agenda that the NFL has bought into the thought process that they have to act a certain way. But this goes far beyond that. This isnt remotely about DV or even appearing tough on DV. This is an ego trip of some sort. Otherwise they would agree for the stay to go into effect and let it play out in the courts in the off season. This is purely ego driven.

 

[CowboyStar88]

No the liberal media may be pushing an agenda that the NFL has bought into the thought process that they have to act a certain way. But this goes far beyond that. This isnt remotely about DV or even appearing tough on DV. This is an ego trip of some sort. Otherwise they would agree for the stay to go into effect and let it play out in the courts in the off season. This is purely ego driven.

I’d aregue the conservative media has made the players the villain over their Anthem protest. But I won’t just as I won’t blame the liberal media for this. There are real problems with domestic violence and women are speaking up. You have judges and cops and lawyers who have been subject to that as well. I understand bringing awareness and punishing players, but there has to be a middle a ground especially when there is no credible evidence to suspend or punish a player. Goodell has taken this as he needs to be a hero to make the shield look clean. All it’s done is destroy the product hence the reason why I believe he’s gone. Also, with all the sexual scandals coming out it’s just not a good look for anyone. Public perception is about to take man big corporations down and demand change.

 

[Verdict]

I’d aregue the conservative media has made the players the villain over their Anthem protest. But I won’t just as I won’t blame the liberal media for this. There are real problems with domestic violence and women are speaking up. You have judges and cops and lawyers who have been subject to that as well. I understand bringing awareness and punishing players, but there has to be a middle a ground especially when there is no credible evidence to suspend or punish a player. Goodell has taken this as he needs to be a hero to make the shield look clean. All it’s done is destroy the product hence the reason why I believe he’s gone. Also, with all the sexual scandals coming out it’s just not a good look for anyone. Public perception is about to take man big corporations down and demand change.

Perception hasn't changed. People are not more or less against DV than they ever have been. The narrative is media driven.

This deal with Zeke is not remotely about that.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Perception hasn't changed. People are not more or less against DV than they ever have been. The narrative is media driven.

This deal with Zeke is not remotely about that.

Isn’t mostly every media driven? Everyone is always looking for a story right? That’s what’s happened with the 24 hour news cycle.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

worst troll job of all time

Yeah one of his worst attempts.

 

[Verdict]

Isn’t mostly every media driven? Everyone is always looking for a story right? That’s what’s happened with the 24 hour news cycle.

I am not sure you understand the point i was trying to make. Almost all media has some slant to it one way or the other. Fair unbiased reporting is pretty much like a unicorn. It's a fairy tale that doesnt exist in reality.

What I am saying is that reality is that people in general don't like DV unless they are the ones doing it. The public' perception about DV probably hasn't changed to a significant degree. But the media's outcry over it may be greater.

Having said that, this deal with Zeke isn't about any of that. This is ego driven.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I am not sure you understand the point i was trying to make. Almost all media has some slant to it one way or the other. Fair unbiased reporting is pretty much like a unicorn. It's a fairy tale that doesnt exist in reality.

What I am saying is that reality is that people in general don't like DV unless they are the ones doing it. The public' perception about DV probably hasn't changed to a significant degree. But the media's outcry over it may be greater.

Having said that, this deal with Zeke isn't about any of that. This is ego driven.

I understand exactly what you’re saying maybe I’m not making my point clear which happens on the net sometimes.

I agree completely ego driven

 

[plasticman]

Innocence or guilt is irrelevant. The -only- thing that matters is whether or not the NFL properly followed the disciplinary procedures outlined in the CBA. The woman could come out and admit she made the whole thing up and it wouldn't matter at this point.

There is the issue of fundamemtal fairness and the original judge has already indicated that this is a real issue.

Investigation amd arbitration are assumed and required to be as defined, that is, arbitration must involve an impartial third part. The investigative committee must also be unbiased.

Each of the four members of the investigative committee stood to gain somerhing if Zeke was punished. The whole process was a sham, lacking any wthical standard of behaviour. This isbwhy Zeke will win.

 

[Prossman]

his reputation IS more important than all of this, He has to clear his name no matter what it takes.

 

[ALBIT]

If Ezekiel Elliott had served his six-game suspension, which the NFL issued Aug. 11, the Cowboys running back would have returned last week against Washington with nothing standing in his way of finishing the season. But Elliott continues his court battle with the NFL, getting something of an 11th hour reprieve this week.

He will play against the Chiefs on Sunday.


“Really, at this point, it’s hard for me to get down or up about this whole situation because tomorrow it could be something different,” Elliott said, via David Moore of the Dallas Morning News. “So I mean it’s really not, like I said, worth my time to even worry about. I’ve just got to trust my [legal] team and trust that they’re going to do everything they can do to the best of their ability to make sure I’m able to play ball.”

Elliott rejoined his teammates for practice Friday after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit granted him an administrative stay. It allows him to play pending the “motions panel” considering the issue, which likely happens next week.

Although Elliott has played in every game, his availability this season has been on a week-by-week basis as his case progresses through the court system. But Elliott said he has never considered giving up his fight.

“No,” Elliott said. “This is bigger than a suspension. It’s bigger than football, them [the NFL] trying to make me something I’m not.

“I’m not an abuser. That’s not who I am. This is my name and this is my reputation. This is something I’m going to have to life with beyond football. Every day is worth fighting.”http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...legal-fight-this-is-bigger-than-a-suspension/

I respect Zeke for trying to fight and clear his name etc. But he will never win this case. Ever. Never ever. Its sad but the NFL good or bad just has way too much power. To me the NFL players association is the single worst union in all of pro sports. Its a disgrace. Thats the problem. You cant fight the NFL currently with the rules of the CBA and expect to win anything. But its just time now Zeke to get this over with and rid this black cloud that has been hovering over us for so long. Sure i respect him for trying to clear his name but we all know now its a lost cause. Just get it over with now