Fan Question: In your mind, what changed?

3 games in 11 days is brutal. If you asked anybody on this board if they would be happy winning 2 of 3 against Philly, KC and Det in the span of 11 days every single person here would have been ecstatic with that. One bright spot is that the team didn't quit down 27-9. Defense couldn't get a stop when needed and dropped passes that led to int's made things worse. If, and it's a big if, we played mistake free ball we would have beaten detroit too.
 
INCowboysFan said:
3 games in 11 days is brutal. If you asked anybody on this board if they would be happy winning 2 of 3 against Philly, KC and Det in the span of 11 days every single person here would have been ecstatic with that. One bright spot is that the team didn't quit down 27-9. Defense couldn't get a stop when needed and dropped passes that led to int's made things worse. If, and it's a big if, we played mistake free ball we would have beaten detroit too.
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Facts matter. Simple things are usually the best answer as to why you lose or win. On that night, we were beaten. The better team that day won. You pointed out the difficulty of playing that many games in a short period. These players are human. Plus, we gotta learn how to win the higher stakes games. We will with this hc. The fan base needs to be patient.
 
Bobhaze said:
After beating the chiefs and egirls back to back, the amount of our fans here at the Zone that immediately transitioned to “this team will run the table” and make a playoff run was puzzling.

Don’t get me wrong. I was excited to see this team win three straight and look a lot better doing it. But it was still a bit mystifying. How could a defense ranked near the absolute bottom of the NFL suddenly turn into a team capable of winning 8 straight? The offense has been good most of the time all year. But the defense?

Anyway…here are my questions:
  • What made you believe this team was capable of winning 8 straight?
  • After losing to Detroit, do you still believe this team is playoff bound? Why or why not?
What changed either way?
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Thursday night, Dan campbell and staff took the cowboys Coaches to the woodshed and slaughtered them.

Vikings game will be telling, Gotta see what Dak n Co can do against BF and his defense.

They can still win out and have a long shot at the playoffs.
 
Bobhaze said:
  • What made you believe this team was capable of winning 8 straight?
  • After losing to Detroit, do you still believe this team is playoff bound? Why or why not?
What changed either way?
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The defense really turned a corner once Williams, Overshown, Wilson, Hooker, Wilson, and Revel were added to the mix.

Now, making the playoffs is an uphill battle. We’d need some luck with other teams dropping games to weaker opponents, while we — as usual — have to run the table and win our last four. And two of those are divisional road games which, no matter the records, are always tough to pull off.
 
Bobhaze said:
I agree. I’m just asking what made so many people believe we were going to “run the table”?
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I’m not sure so many felt we were going to run the table.

But the fact we looked so good beating the Egirls and Chefs provided hope we could.
 
mrmojo said:
Detroit played 3 games in 11 days also....
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I've never understood the 3 games in 11 days excuse as its happens pretty much happens to every team anymore as just about everyone has a Thursday game. Sunday-Sunday-Thursday or Sunday-Thursday-Thursday is all 11 days.
 
Bobhaze said:
I wonder if our fan base is so starved for improvement, we are willing to believe so badly all it takes is winning 3 straight.

Not knocking those wins. Just wondering how we got so much “faith”, lol?
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I don’t think it was just winning 3 straight. It was who we beat and how we beat them.

Most critics and analysts had said all year with the season Dak and our offense was having if we had even an average defense we could be playoff contenders .

And after the bye with trades and starters returning from injury the defense made stark improvement.

It wasn’t just the fans who were beginning to buy in. Most of the NFL world was.
 
Many fans are subject to their emotions.
Teams like the cowboys are too inconsistent to be trusted.
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You ever played a great round of golf, only to be humbled and frustrated again the following week?
:laugh:
 
Bobhaze said:
After beating the chiefs and egirls back to back, the amount of our fans here at the Zone that immediately transitioned to “this team will run the table” and make a playoff run was puzzling.

Don’t get me wrong. I was excited to see this team win three straight and look a lot better doing it. But it was still a bit mystifying. How could a defense ranked near the absolute bottom of the NFL suddenly turn into a team capable of winning 8 straight? The offense has been good most of the time all year. But the defense?

Anyway…here are my questions:
  • What made you believe this team was capable of winning 8 straight?
  • After losing to Detroit, do you still believe this team is playoff bound? Why or why not?
What changed either way?
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I did have some hope. Knew it would be extremely tough. Knew after Lions game we’d be favored in remaining games.

I think I even stated 10-6-1 was probably more likely and added that after 3-5-1 finishing with 8 or 9 wins would be a strong finish.

And with an 8% chance our playoff hopes are on life support with little to no chance. I’d say it’s over.
 
Diehardblues said:
I did have some hope. Knew it would be extremely tough. Knew after Lions game we’d be favored in remaining games.

I think I even stated 10-6-1 was probably more likely and added that after 3-5-1 finishing with 8 or 9 wins would be a strong finish.

And with an 8% chance our playoff hopes are on life support with little to no chance. I’d say it’s over.
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I guess as long as they're not mathematically eliminated there is hope.
:cool:
 
Bobhaze said:
I agree. I’m just asking what made so many people believe we were going to “run the table”?
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1. I think people really want to believe
2. I think some fans are newer
3. Short memories
4. Easily bamboozled
5. A little Jerry pixie dust

All of the above?

I knew they had zero chance of running the table.
 
Bobhaze said:
After beating the chiefs and egirls back to back, the amount of our fans here at the Zone that immediately transitioned to “this team will run the table” and make a playoff run was puzzling.

Don’t get me wrong. I was excited to see this team win three straight and look a lot better doing it. But it was still a bit mystifying. How could a defense ranked near the absolute bottom of the NFL suddenly turn into a team capable of winning 8 straight? The offense has been good most of the time all year. But the defense?

Anyway…here are my questions:
  • What made you believe this team was capable of winning 8 straight?
  • After losing to Detroit, do you still believe this team is playoff bound? Why or why not?
What changed either way?
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1. Capable of winning 8 straight? Sure, they were 1 or 2 stops by the defense from winning a game in which they were outplayed. The minute I saw that we could stop the run and make teams 1 dimensional, I believed we had a chance. We held Jamir Gibbs to 43 yards rushing, and Detroit knew we were better in this area and came out with a game plan that was all about passing. I didn’t expect us to win all three of the last games against top NFL teams with a new coaching staff prepping for 4 games in 18 days. But capable, yes.

2. No, I thought it was a long shot to make the playoffs even if we won out. While it’s not mathematically impossible, I see no realistic path now.

My hope for the future is actually more real now than it ever was. A defense that cannot control a team’s run game has little to no chance of beating top teams and playoff games, so even during our 3 straight 12 win seasons, I was never hopeful that we’d have playoff success, and I was happy to see Dan Quinn walk away.

This team’s offense, with a power run game that must be respected even without long speed, and 2 top receivers with a third not named Tolbert, is going to be solid if not exceptional. And imagine what this front 7 will be if we actually pair 1-2 real LBs with Overshown. Get the secondary healthy and maybe add another piece, and I have more hope now than in the past 15 years.
 
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