Felix Jones? Why is there an anti-Felix Jones clan on the Zone?

[The Rawhide Kid]

I don't know, check out this link. Somehow this guy as our first round pick doesn't excite me. Doesn't strike me as the face of our franchise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1aKI0Fpwq8&feature=related

Just to be fair to him, here is another...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4miK7GnuSAI&feature=related

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Reminds me of those T-shirts,

"Yesterday
I Couldn't Spell
NFL Skout...

Today I are One!"

 

[ajk23az]

I don't know, check out this link. Somehow this guy as our first round pick doesn't excite me. Doesn't strike me as the face of our franchise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1aKI0Fpwq8&feature=related

Just to be fair to him, here is another...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4miK7GnuSAI&feature=related

He doesn't have to be the face of our franchise. We got Ware and Romo for that.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Jones is electic once he gets into the 2nd and 3rd wave of tacklers, I just don't see him having the strength to break arm tackles at this level though.

Would be great for screens, and in the return game. Would really add an element to our team that JuJo and Austin couldn't.

 

[cobra]

The answer is so simple. Just like the thread the other day about "What guy do you not like but can't explain why?" The answer is the same.

People develop preferences. They prefer Player X for whatever reason. They develop the mindset that they want the Cowboys to draft Player X. Then they start reading about how the team might draft draft Player Y instead of Player X. This upsets the person in question because they want Player X, not Player Y. As the issue is ultimately one of personal preference, there is not a good argument differentiating the two.

So the person develops a dislike and begins to try to tear down or diminish Player Y in some futile hope that it will effect the consensus.

That's why some people don't like Felix. They over-emphasize the negatives (while every player has negatives) and try to de-emphasize or dispute the positives in hopes that the consensus will change and perhaps their prefered player will be who the Cowboys go for. Hell, we got people saying DMAC isn't going to be good because they would rather have someone else. So it shouldn't be a surprise that people will knock Felix (who is, by all accounts, a legit first round runningback).

Ultimately it is predictable and ineffective.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Because I don't see him as much better than the other tier 2 tweener RBs Charles, Johnson and Rice and as such a waste in the first when you can nab one of them in the second. Its not hate of Felix but hate of drafting Felix in the first. Every time I see him at 22 I want to puke.

 

[kTXe]

I don't know, check out this link. Somehow this guy as our first round pick doesn't excite me. Doesn't strike me as the face of our franchise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1aKI0Fpwq8&feature=related

Just to be fair to him, here is another...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4miK7GnuSAI&feature=related

Beware some man-booty and maybe even some dong in that first vid.

The second video, though, is pretty impressive. If FuzzyLumpkins fell in love with Chris Johnson over the course of a less-than-impressive 8 minute highlight video, I don't even want to know what he would do after watching Felix's video. Unlike CJ, Felix actually shows some impressive lateral agility and multi-cut ability...with a bit of power and broken tackles sprinkled in.

 

[cobra]

It's funny to me that I can recall back when all the discussion was about the Cowboys going after DMAC during this last season. To the people who didn't want that, I remember the argument being "DMAC isn't even the best RB on his own team."

Now that it looks more like Felix might be a Cowboy, people want to talk down about him too.

I'm not invested in Felix. I have a RB board that goes DMAC-Mendenhall-Stewart-Felix-CJohnson-dropoff. I would be happy with any of those players.

But looking at Felix's production while sharing the backfield with a Heisman candidate shows that he is a good pick. For one, the coach felt just as comfortable handing the ball to Felix as to the "Best Player in the Country." OU didn't split carries with Adrian Peterson because there was a dropoff. But Felix was interchangeable from the coaches perspective with the "Best Player in the Country". That is a big compliment. And when given the opportunity, he produced. He ran for over 1k yards the last 2 years despite being a backup. He had over 8.7 yards per carry running in the SEC when teams stacked the boxes with knowledge that Arkansas was 90% run. 11 TDs is good.

Yeah, he isn't perfect. But he is a damn fine prospect. There is no reason to not want him on your team if he is the BPA when we pick in the first.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Beware some man-booty and maybe even some dong in that first vid.

The second video, though, is pretty impressive. If FuzzyLumpkins fell in love with Chris Johnson over the course of a less-than-impressive 8 minute highlight video, I don't even want to know what he would do after watching Felix's video. Unlike CJ, Felix actually shows some impressive lateral agility and multi-cut ability...with a bit of power and broken tackles sprinkled in.

I have seen Felix play a lot more than CJ. Felix is an excellent back there is no question. I dont wnat either of them at 22 or 28.

Felix is good but CJ is much much more athletic and no I am not just talking 40 time. Felix is more polished and tried and true in the SEC.

I like them both which seems to ba novel idea for some people. I have no pet cat.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Well, I have been through this before, argued with the same people who are in this thread. I have seen alot of Felix's games, well all of them, and I don't want him to be a Cowboy in the first round. I don't believe you spend first rounders on backups, who don't have the potential to be the starter. Sure we have Barber, but we did spend a fourth rounder to get him. Now some want to spend a first rounder on his backup?? What kinda logic is that.

Now I won't get into whether or not I think Barber is a feature back (he isn't, or else we wouldn't be even looking or considering a backup in the first round). The deal is, with Barber's running style, he could get injuried at any time, then whoever his backup is has to start. Felix just isn't that guy.

He has good vision, and lateral quickness, but doesn't run with strength. He can break the occasional arm tackle, but he doesn't bring any impact to the collision. I just don't project him as a starter in the NFL, and to me, that should be a prerequisite to being a back drafted in the first round. Otherwise, get a later round back or free agent to fill that role.

If Pacman is said to be a luxury, Felix would certainly fit that same description as a first round pick.

 

[Stash]

Last time I checked, we have our starter in Marion Barber. So that means, let me think about this..............WE DONT NEED SOMEONE THAT HAS TO START.

Check again. Barber's currently tendered as a restricted free agent. That means he could be in Dallas for one more year. Then what?

Like someone said in another post here, ever since the report that he only had 8 reps on the bench, everyone turned against him. That is the truth.

My opinion isn't based on inaccurate bench press numbers. It's based on the fact that I don't want to waste a first round pick on a career backup player.

 

[cobra]

Everyone we take in the first round this year is going to be a backup...

 

[kTXe]

I have seen Felix play a lot more than CJ. Felix is an excellent back there is no question. I dont wnat either of them at 22 or 28.

Felix is good but CJ is much much more athletic and no I am not just talking 40 time. Felix is more polished and tried and true in the SEC.

I like them both which seems to ba novel idea for some people. I have no pet cat.

I am not in favor of drafting either one in the first, either. The only RB I actually wouldn't mind seeing us take in the first is Mendenhall, in the unlikely event that he falls to us (and assuming that we would have to trade up to 7 or so for McFadden).

I just haven't seen anything other than pure speed that impresses me about CJ. I don't see his game translating to the NFL at all.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Everyone we take in the first round this year is going to be a backup...

Yes, but you would want someone that has the potential to start for you, if we have to let a guy walk cause of cap problems, injuries, and such. A guy who can step in that role.

Felix isn't that guy. I really hate where our draft picks are, and I hope we trade them up or down, doesn't matter to me at all where, just out of these spots where there is even a temptation to reach at Felix.

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

Yes, but you would want someone that has the potential to start for you, if we have to let a guy walk cause of cap problems, injuries, and such. A guy who can step in that role.

Felix isn't that guy. I really hate where our draft picks are, and I hope we trade them up or down, doesn't matter to me at all where, just out of these spots where there is even a temptation to reach at Felix.

I highly doubt that we decide to just sit pretty with our two picks. I would much rather wait until the 2nd round to get Rice or CJ before I would Felix. JMHO

 

[Bizwah]

Yes, but you would want someone that has the potential to start for you, if we have to let a guy walk cause of cap problems, injuries, and such. A guy who can step in that role.

Felix isn't that guy. I really hate where our draft picks are, and I hope we trade them up or down, doesn't matter to me at all where, just out of these spots where there is even a temptation to reach at Felix.

I like this post.

I keep reading the posts from the proponents of CJ or FJ that say, "we only need a compliment to Barber...we don't need a starter."

That's a load of junk.

We need a guy that can be the starter when we need him.

I like Felix Jones and Chris Johnson....just not in the first or second round.

 

[ajk23az]

CJ is also going to be a career backup. Hell, every RB outside of Mendenhall and DMAC will be career backups for the Cowboys.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Drafting for guys that were expected to play a supporting role and back up netted us guys like Sherman Williams, Steve Scifres etc. Whether or not they will back up for some period of time and HAVING to be a backup are two different things.

That being said. Everyone loves Barber but Barber statistically is one the worst short yardage runners. If its 3rd and a long 1 he is not going to get that a good percentage of the time. Wow i just went mentally back to Charles being our best option.

God what i wouldnt give too be in the draft meeting room at VR over then next 2 weeks. just to see what thought processes guys loke Ciskowskit, both Jones, Phillips et al use.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I don't have a problem with Felix because he would have the ability to help us out in several phases of the game; I just can't justify taking a backup RB with our first 1st round pick. Would I be disappointed if they drafted Felix in the 1st? Yes. Angry? No. I don't have a pet back, but I could see drafting Rice, Charles, Johnson, Slaton, etc. in 2nd/3rd rounds instead and not have a considerable dropoff. Not so at other positions.

We didn't lose to the Giants because of our RB position, we lost because they knew they could throw on part of our secondary and because they knew that we didn't have healthy enough WRs to throw on theirs. I think CB and WR need to be addressed somewhere in the first 2 rounds and that all depends on who is available.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I don't have a problem with Felix because he would have the ability to help us out in several phases of the game; I just can't justify taking a backup RB with our first 1st round pick. Would I be disappointed if they drafted Felix in the 1st? Yes. Angry? No. I don't have a pet back, but I could see drafting Rice, Charles, Johnson, Slaton, etc. in 2nd/3rd rounds instead and not have a considerable dropoff. Not so at other positions.

We didn't lose to the Giants because of our RB position, we lost because they knew they could throw on part of our secondary and because they knew that we didn't have healthy enough WRs to throw on theirs. I think CB and WR need to be addressed somewhere in the first 2 rounds and that all depends on who is available.

I agree with this, although it can be dangerous to limit yourself. What we need is another true difference maker, playmaker, potential star, not another backup.

Any WR we pick high has a potential to start, cause Crapton definitely isn't a number 2. CB is in flux, who knows what will happen there. But I will say this, I would rather trade up and get a star like DMac, McKelvin, or Mendenhall than sit back and get some fringe player like Felix. Or even trade down and get another 3rd or 4th round pick, then pick a guy like CJ or FJ in the second.

Just don't sit there in our current spots and pick two guys with second round talent (Felix) or baggage that should have put him in the second round(Talib).