Video: Fish: Cowboys + Dak agent idea of just 3 years? Biggest win of qb’s career

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sometimes I wonder if Cowboys fans actually pay attention

Prescott record

2016: 13-3

Are you paying him 25 million/year after his rookie season?

2017: 9-7
2018: 10-6

are you paying Dak 30 million/y after this?

2019: 8-8

are you paying Dak 35 million/y after that?

and after 2020: 2-3

are you paying him 40 million/y after that?

Now, before you say, these are team records and a lot of the losing was because of defense, I will say to you

1. Elite QBs are judged by team records and playoff success

2. if we had a horrible defense when we were paying our QB 2 million do you think our defense will get better once we are cap strapped paying him 40 million?

just think about these things before rooting for this guy to be paid

root for the Cowboys
Not the player
Elite QB’s are judged by tears records and playoff success only by idiotic fans who obviously know nothing.
 

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Dak is in Dallas for one more year, I hope. He's asking too much. Dallas can make a qualifying offer next year and get a 3rd round comp pick. I'll be good with that as long as he's gone. I like Dak but he's not worth that much. Trade up and draft his replacement this year.

Zac Wilson.
I agree with everything you said. I say trade him now and get more than a 3rd round comp pick.

If this report is true and he wants 41 million and will only sign a 3 year deal then I would be pretty upset if Dallas caved. Trade him and get 2 firsts for him.

I also like the idea of putting the non exclusive tag on him and letting him shop around. If someone is willing to pay him this ridiculous contract then trade him.

I got a feeling that no one would pay him 41 million for 3 years, except Jerry Jones. I'd like to see that other teams wouldn't give him that and then he can come back to reality.
 

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Anyone that can’t stop eating and drinking for 5 minutes to make a point automatically loses credibility
Lol, Fish has serious ADHD. So frustrating to watch.

Fish: " so this is the greatest win in Dak's career. But....But....it's also a big win for the Cowboys too. Let me tell you why it's a big win for the Cowboys. Hold I need to eat a peanut first. Oh you're looking at my shirt now. Exclusive exclusive, you can buy this shirt and other products in the merch store. I don't know why someone would want a sticker with my face on it. That wasn't my idea. I'm reporting from my kitchen, do you like my kitchen?"

So.
Ridiculously.
Frustrating.
To.
Watch.

I seriously can not watch this guy without getting agitated. Just horrible camera presence.
 

jaythecowboy

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so you’re paying Dak 35 million/y after an 8-8 2019 season?

like I said, be a fan of the Cowboys not the player

In the first four years, he had two division titles and two trips to the divisional round. Even though he hasn't advanced beyond the divisional round, he arguably outplayed his matchup both games. The best path forward is to pay Dak and then use the draft to build out the rest of the team.
 

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I actually rooted for Romo for about 5 years before realizing he would never wins SB even with a great defense. Dude was too snake bit. It took me less time to figure out Dak and Cousins
Not sure how you came to that observation. Your eyes told you that Romo was snake bit rather than the team around him wasn't built to win a SB? Damn.
 

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please please please for the love of all that is holy stop with the non-exclusive stuff.
as I've explained many times on this board it is completely meaningless and the worst possible option for Dallas.
they would literally be better off with no tag than non-exclusive.
I’m not sure where you get that. Lol.
 

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https://sportdfw.com/2021/02/03/dallas-cowboys-brace-dak-prescott-may-want-3-year-deal/

This is the first link I saw. It's been pretty widely reported that the main point of contention was the years. Which is why the best time to get a deal done was after 2018. The Cowboys could have frontloaded the contract into that 2019 season when Dak was only making $2 million, and Dak would have been happy with a 5 year deal expiring in 2024. Now two years later all indications point to him wanting a 3 year deal.
What about Dak has to agree do you guys not comprehend?
 

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No one is confirming anything so by that rationale this whole thread (and most of CZ is nonsense). If that is nonsense to you then you shouldn't even be on this post. What is the last thing that was actually confirmed by someone in the negotiations? I don't think we've heard anything directly since Dak said he didn't expect to be the highest paid qb 2 years ago.
Seems like Dak has changed his mind.
 

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What about Dak has to agree do you guys not comprehend?

Nobody is saying Dak doesn't have to agree. But the Cowboys' offers have been inadequate. Had they made better offers, I would look at Dak more as being the one holding things up.
 

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Dak is a greedy prick who knows there isn't going to be anymore BIG contracts after this one so he's looking to cash in now! He's been in Dallas since 2016 and had ONE great year because of the O-line, nothing less and nothing more. When the O-Line started to breakdown the 13-3 season was just a dream to every Cowboy fan. Dak has been good at leading this team to victories over bottom feeders but he struggles BIG TIME when he's up against winning teams. Not worth the big bucks and JJ needs to move on from this greedy player and his blood thirsty agents!
Don’t block. Tell us how you really feel.
 

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Nobody is saying Dak doesn't have to agree. But the Cowboys' offers have been inadequate. Had they made better offers, I would look at Dak more as being the one holding things up.

The Cowboys have offered him enough. Lol. But it appears enough is not enough.
 

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If he wants to be in the Mahomes AAV then he needs to be in the same length of deal. Less years means less equivalent value.

If he wants 3 years then he can have $100m guaranteed. After that point I am willing to let him walk. He doesn't deserve over 20% of the cap or twice of what any other player on the roster makes.
 

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Lol, Fish has serious ADHD. So frustrating to watch.

Fish: " so this is the greatest win in Dak's career. But....But....it's also a big win for the Cowboys too. Let me tell you why it's a big win for the Cowboys. Hold I need to eat a peanut first. Oh you're looking at my shirt now. Exclusive exclusive, you can buy this shirt and other products in the merch store. I don't know why someone would want a sticker with my face on it. That wasn't my idea. I'm reporting from my kitchen, do you like my kitchen?"

So.
Ridiculously.
Frustrating.
To.
Watch.

I seriously can not watch this guy without getting agitated. Just horrible camera presence.
He’s knowledgeable but he sometimes also gets “stuck” on a player and can’t be as objective as he should be in his position. I think he was that way on Witten and Dez at the end.
 

plymkr

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He’s knowledgeable but he sometimes also gets “stuck” on a player and can’t be as objective as he should be in his position. I think he was that way on Witten and Dez at the end.
I agree he's knowledgeable, but he also eats peanuts and gets distracted right when he's about to make a point. Kind of funny sometimes. I appreciate his work but some of his videos can be frustrating to watch cuz he draws them out.
 

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I’m not sure where you get that. Lol.
This is common sense.
It baffles me so few grasp it and fail to understand non-exclusive versus exclusive.
There is is literally ZERO BENEFIT for the Dallas Cowboys to tag non-exclusive.
It merely removes control levers they enjoy under exclusive.

It would be quite welcome to Todd France.

But realistically walk through the actual scenarios.

IF you tag non-exclusive only 1 thing has to happen. Dak has to agree to terms with another club. That's it. The structure, timing and means to meet the two R1 ask is up to the team doing the deal with Dak.
They do not HAVE to offer that deal under the Tag and can contact the Cowboys for a lesser trade package.
Dallas has no real control at that point over anything. Match a deal built so they can't/won't match or let him go.
They do not get to steer Dak out of the NFCE, they do not get to maintain exclusive tag rights, they do not get to judge the R1 picks requirement.

IF you tag exclusive you can just the same tell France to go find the best deal he can minus NFCE and you want two R1 picks from any team projected middle of the pack or more picks from a team that would be viewed at a SB contender.
The TEAM retains control for the year if THEY don't get the deal they want.

You still get the same requirement of Dak finding a team and you merely GAIN control over final say.

No team would give up that final say.

Dak is from Louisiana. Imagine him on that Saints team.
Or with WFT and that trench group.
Heck even with his old buddy Garrett in NY in that market.

Dallas does not want to lose Dak at all. They do not want to lose him especially to someone who might beat them 7 out of 8 times the next 4 years as Dak did to other NFCE teams.
They do not want to lose him to a SB contender where they could recoup a whopping two picks in the 30-32 range while they search for a QB and draft top 10 based upon their own picks.
 

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He had a good year. Last year he wasn’t even the clear starter.

There’s not enough success to call him a sure thing.

If we were considering him in the second round, sure, whatever.

Even if we considered him at 10 and we didn’t have Dak in house I’d be pretty happy with taking a shot.

But people are talking about trading #10 and at least next years first and that’s assuming we have a top ten pick next year

Not sure why people think trading multiple firsts for a guy who had one good year is a pretty big gamble

What makes you say this? BYU was 11-1 last year? Wilson started 12 games. That seems pretty clear to me.

The closest thing to a sure thing in this Draft is Lawrence and that's the #1 pick. That's not going to happen so the next closest is Wilson IMO. What's the point of this statement?

Wilson isn't lasting to the second round. He's not getting out of the top 5 IMO but I guess we'll see.

I'd love to get him at 10 but I said earlier, I don't think he's going to be there if he shows well at the Combine. This is an interesting year because in most years, the Combine would be ending by now. But this year, it hasn't even started yet. Combine will make or break Wilson.

I'm not talking about trading 10 and next year's first. I'm talking about trading Dak in exchange for 2nd overall, 2nd round pick and Darnold. I can't speak for whatever anybody else is thinking.

Wilson took over as starter in, I believe, the 7th game of his Freshman year.

2018 4W/3L 1799 yds, 65.9 Comp %, 14 TDs, 3 INTs.

Soph year, Wilson was injured against Toledo in the 5th game of the season, and was out for 4 games.

2019 4W/5L 2549 yds, 62.4 Comp %, 11 TDs, 9 INTs.

Junior year, he was pretty much lights out.

2020 11W/1L 3946 yds, 73.5 Comp %, 43 TDs, 3 INTs.

So, I don't really think it's fair to say that he's not really been the full time starter. He's been the full time starter since the 7th game of his Freshman year, missing a few games in his Soph year due to injury. The real question would be, why the drop off in 2019 because his Freshman year was outstanding as Freshman go and his Jr. year is franchise good.

Here's why, injuries at RB, OL and the lose of OL Coach Ryan Pugh. Cougars lost their starting RB, which impacted the running game but really impacted the passing game more because the production from the RB in the passing game was not good but the blitz pickup was terrible. You had two Soph OLs who stayed healthy but the other three OLs were musical chairs so no continuity along the OL. All of this, along with the thumb injury lent itself to a lot more INTs and less production. That was the reason his Soph year was down IMO.
 

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And this statement is what but arrogance? Why the hate.

Zeke STRUGGLES big time vs winning teams. And the d as usual is no where to be found.
Look at the record against average to above average teams. After you're done with this assignment get back to me............
 
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