Flozell Adams???

[SLATEmosphere]

The thread. The mentality.

Hos is just too good for us..head and shoulders above everyone else

kidding of course.

 

[JimDandy]

Flozell Adams has gotten 9 False start Penalties the last two years that is 2007 and 2008 years

The team as a whole

By now, we all know the Cowboys led the NFL with 119 penalties for a total of 952 yards. Dreadful. Anyway, I figured you all would like a look at the breakdown of penalty by unit. Not surprisingly, the offense led the way.

Offensive penalties: 64 (NFL rank: 1st)
Yardage: 462 Defensive penalties: 40 (NFL rank: 3rd)
Yardage: 328
Special teams penalties: 15 (NFL rank: T-13th)
Yardage: 162
Overall totals: 119 (NFL rank: 1st)
Yardage: 952 (Only Green Bay had more with 984 penalty yards on 110 flags)

Thanks for the info about Flozell. Hard to believe that he only averages 4 false starts a season. What is your source for this factoid? Again, it seems that he averages two a game. Heck, we have such gaping holes in so many areas, he is just one of multiple problems. Frustrating.

 

[tomson75]

Flozell Adams has gotten 9 False start Penalties the last two years that is 2007 and 2008 years

Hmmm.....seems quite a bit less than the 32 false start penalties that someone had suggested he was guilty of.


*scratches head*

 

[ajk23az]

Thanks for the info about Flozell. Hard to believe that he only averages 4 false starts a season. What is your source for this factoid? Again, it seems that he averages two a game. Heck, we have such gaping holes in so many areas, he is just one of multiple problems. Frustrating.

How is 4 false starts per year a "gaping hole". The guy is still an above average LT.

Your thinking is flawed right now.

 

[JimDandy]

The thread. The mentality.

Well excuse the heck out of me. What is your problem guy? Flozell is a problem, the thread is legitimate. The responses by many members proves my point. Sorry you have a problem with the topic.

 

[JimDandy]

How is 4 false starts per year a "gaping hole". The guy is still an above average LT.

Your thinking is flawed right now.

Again, what is your source for the four false starts/season???????

My thinking is fine and is usually spot on. Flozell's frequent false starts have always been and remain a problem.

 

[Kangaroo]

Thanks for the info about Flozell. Hard to believe that he only averages 4 false starts a season. What is your source for this factoid? Again, it seems that he averages two a game. Heck, we have such gaping holes in so many areas, he is just one of multiple problems. Frustrating.

You mis read the stats he got 9 false starts each year 2007 and 2008 it is his 3rd time in his career to get 9 false starts

 

[JimDandy]

You mis read the stats he got 9 false starts each year 2007 and 2008 it is his 3rd time in his career to get 9 false starts

That sounds closer to being correct.

 

[Kangaroo]

According to an article I am assuming the stats are correct here is the false start breakdown for Flo and False Starts (1 year he did not finish due to injury and I do not remember which year or how many games he started as a rookie)

1998 - 2
1999 - 6
2000 - 3
2001 - 5
2002 - 1
2003 - 6
2004 - 9
2005 - 1
2006 - 5
2007 - 9
2008 - 9

 

[lane]

my problem with flozell adams is he is lazy and takes way too many plays off.

his penalties are always at crucial times.

never understood the love for this dude.

you put a speed rusher on him and he is toast....plain and simple.

we need a jon runyan type left tackle.

there are two players on the eagles i have nothing but respect for:

runyan and westbrook

 

[JimDandy]

According to an article I am assuming the stats are correct here is the false start breakdown for Flo and False Starts (1 year he did not finish due to injury and I do not remember which year or how many games he started as a rookie)

1998 - 2
1999 - 6
2000 - 3
2001 - 5
2002 - 1
2003 - 6
2004 - 9
2005 - 1
2006 - 5
2007 - 9
2008 - 9

Okay thanks. 9 false starts per season is too many. 18 in the past two years is pitiful. The guy is a 10 year veteran who seems to be regressing in this area. Sorry, I'm not overly impressed with Flozell at all at this point - mostly for his frequent penalties and his inability to solve the problem. The LT position needs an upgrade shortly.

 

[JimDandy]

my problem with flozell adams is he is lazy and takes way too many plays off.

his penalties are always at crucial times.

never understood the love for this dude.

you put a speed rusher on him and he is toast....plain and simple.

we need a jon runyan type left tackle.

there are two players on the eagles i have nothing but respect for:

runyan and westbrook

I'm with you guy. Solid response.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's the offseason. People have a tendancy to over react just a bit. I was not in favor of resigning Flo but he's here now. Lots of things are wrong with this team and it's not necessarily an issue with Flo only. If we solitify the LG spot, Flo's performance will improve IMO. I believe that he's over compensating for the weakness at RG. If he's allowed to just play his man and not be asked to cheat in to help the LG, I think things will improve. JMO.

 

[Yeagermeister]

my problem with flozell adams is he is lazy and takes way too many plays off.

his penalties are always at crucial times.

never understood the love for this dude.

you put a speed rusher on him and he is toast....plain and simple.

we need a jon runyan type left tackle.

there are two players on the eagles i have nothing but respect for:

runyan and westbrook

Runyan is a RT the last time I looked. Tra Thomas is the Eagles LT.

 

[big dog cowboy]

There are too many who look at the 2008 Flo and forgot he played injured. In 2007 he had a great year and proved he was one of the better LT's in the game.

 

[tomson75]

It's not whether people "love" the guy or not. I'm not seeing much "love" for the guy....but I'm also not seeing anyone give any examples on how this "upgrade" is going to happen.

Drafting a tackle is obviously a priority this year. Expecting one to come in and take over is pretty silly. Paying a quality FA LT is pretty much out of the question....and then there is the fact that Adams' isn't nearly as bad as this thread would suggest.

So yeah, this thread is dumb.

Like I said earlier. Pick your battles. There are WAY more pressing issues to be whining about.

 

[JimDandy]

It's the offseason. People have a tendancy to over react just a bit. I was not in favor of resigning Flo but he's here now. Lots of things are wrong with this team and it's not necessarily an issue with Flo only. If we solitify the LG spot, Flo's performance will improve IMO. I believe that he's over compensating for the weakness at RG. If he's allowed to just play his man and not be asked to cheat in to help the LG, I think things will improve. JMO.

Perhaps your right, I hope so but have my doubts.

"Tom told us we will forget him in two weeks," cornerback Everson Walls recalled. "But that won't happen." Great quote by Everson Walls that you have on your signature. Walls was a helluva player and is stand up guy.

 

[JimDandy]

There are too many who look at the 2008 Flo and forgot he played injured. In 2007 he had a great year and proved he was one of the better LT's in the game.

But yet he also had 9 false starts in 2007.

 

[big dog cowboy]

it seems that he averages two a game.

I agree it seems that way sometimes. But there are 4 other OL who get called sometimes.

 

[big dog cowboy]

But yet he also had 9 false starts in 2007.

Doesn't change what I said in the least.