Foley said officer who shot him was trying to end his career

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By ALLISON HOFFMAN, Associated Press Writer
September 15, 2006

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SAN DIEGO (AP) -- Chargers linebacker Steve Foley told the off-duty police officer who shot him at least three times, "You're trying to end my career, man," according to a sheriff's department report obtained Friday by The Associated Press.

Foley made the comment after he was shot Sept. 3 outside his home, the report written by San Diego Sheriff's Deputy Robert Tockstein said. Tockstein, the first deputy to arrive after the shooting, wrote the report the day of the shooting.

The off-duty Coronado police officer, Aaron Mansker, followed Foley's restored 1971 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme about 30 miles on the freeway on suspicion that the driver was drunk, the report said.

The shooting occurred when Foley got out of his car outside his home in suburban Poway, with the report saying Mansker fired after the 6-foot-4, 265-pound football player reached into his pants with his right hand.

Foley said, "You shot me in the knee," but continued approaching Mansker, who shot at least three more rounds at Foley before the player "went down" and fell unconscious, the report said.
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Foley, who had been partying in downtown San Diego, had a blood-alcohol level of 0.233 percent, nearly three times California's legal limit of 0.08 percent.

Mansker has been placed on paid administrative leave.

The 31-year-old Foley will miss the season.

His agent, David Levine, said earlier this week that Foley was hospitalized in fair condition with two gunshot wounds in his lower left leg and one on his thigh. Sheriff's officials have said Foley was shot in the hand.

Levine did not immediately return a phone message Friday.

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The way I see it if you were in this position, you were trying to end you're own career. Don't be an idiot. Next!
 

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nyc said:
The way I see it if you were in this position, you were trying to end you're own career. Don't be an idiot. Next!


get real would you stop for a person in streets clothes in there personal car trying to pull you over when your an NFL star?!?! i wouldnt even stop not for a person in that situation nor would i of i had any kind of fame, Foley was in the wrong by drinking and driving but the cop was in the wrong for shoot him without an jurisdiction to do so
 

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I thought that police, even in uniform, were supposed to fire only when threatened by suspects with guns.
In this case, the San Diego Police Department deliberately targeted Foley, and ended his career.
Revenge was the police department's motive. (SD Police claim that Foley had punched a cop in April)
 

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This entire incident reeks of police malfeasance. First, you don't follow someone 30 miles on suspicion of drunk driving. You call it in if you are an off duty cop and let a black and white with uniformed cops handle it. Then to shot the guy three times when you still have not seen a gun in his hand...gotta wonder what's up with that. This whole thing is hinky as hell and I bet Foley will be retiring with a bag full of taxpayer's money after he sues the hell out of the Police Department.
 

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nyc said:
The way I see it if you were in this position, you were trying to end you're own career. Don't be an idiot. Next!


????:rolleyes:
 

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Gfunk said:
and police wonder why we call them pigs

I hate cops more than skins. That's ALOT of hate.

I know there are good ones, and have met a few. But most are p*****... and this is based on my personal experience as well as MANY PEOPLE, from all different walks of life, that I have spoken with.
 

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And it took 30 miles to decide whether or not he was driving drunk? What about a call to an on-duty officer to pull him over if he was posing a threat to himself and others while operating the vehicle?

....smells funny to me.
 

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CaptainQuint said:
I thought that police, even in uniform, were supposed to fire only when threatened by suspects with guns.
In this case, the San Diego Police Department deliberately targeted Foley, and ended his career.
Revenge was the police department's motive. (SD Police claim that Foley had punched a cop in April)


very true, now we are going to have the S.D. Riots instead of the L.A. Riots because of this :bang2:
 

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very true, now we are going to have the S.D. Riots instead of the L.A. Riots because of this :bang2:

Maybe Ice-T can make an album out of the whole situation like he did back then.
 

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Gfunk said:
and police wonder why we call them pigs

I can't stand any of them. Never met one that I liked.

I don't know much about San Diego, but I do know that Houston is the worst city for a visitor. You will always get pulled over if you have out of state tags.

You can't blow wind in Houston without getting a ticket.
 

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Maybe Ice-T can make an album out of the whole situation like he did back then.
Ice-T is too busy playing a cop on TV to be singing about killing them again.
 

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JVita17 said:
get real would you stop for a person in streets clothes in there personal car trying to pull you over when your an NFL star?!?! i wouldnt even stop not for a person in that situation nor would i of i had any kind of fame, Foley was in the wrong by drinking and driving but the cop was in the wrong for shoot him without an jurisdiction to do so

If he had no jurisdiction to shoot, how come he hasn't been charged with a crime??
 

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CaptainQuint said:
I thought that police, even in uniform, were supposed to fire only when threatened by suspects with guns.
In this case, the San Diego Police Department deliberately targeted Foley,

Oh, gimme a break...

and ended his career.

Except I haven't read anywhere that his career is over...

Revenge was the police department's motive.

That's right, they POURED all that liquor down his throat (do you even know how much liquor it would take for a 265 pounder to register a .233 blood alcohol??

I'm guessing you've had your own run-ins with the law, and just WANT this to be a case of them "targeting" Foley...

Even so, it's quite asinine for you state so certainly what their alleged "motive" was...
 

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KD said:
I hate cops more than skins. That's ALOT of hate.

I know there are good ones, and have met a few. But most are p*****... and this is based on my personal experience as well as MANY PEOPLE, from all different walks of life, that I have spoken with.

And I've never had a problem with a cop in my life... in fact, it pisses my nephew off, the last two times I've been hauled over (once for speeding, once for a rolling stop at a stop sign, both times I was quite guilty), they let me off with a warning...

Gee, you don't reckon that maybe that's because I didn't give them a ration of crap for doing their job, do ya??

I'm sure some of the folks so quick to hate on the cops in these threads have legitimate cause, that they were mistreated... I'm equally sure the vast majority of you who "hate the cops" gave those cops good reason to give you trouble...
 

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silverbear said:
If he had no jurisdiction to shoot, how come he hasn't been charged with a crime??

I thought the case was still under investigation and that he was on paid leave? Maybe charges will be brought up at some point.

And in case you missed it, here's the latest.

PROSECUTORS WANT TO TEST FOLEY FOR 'ROIDS

In a bizarre development from a case with more bizarre developments than a weekend at Neverland Ranch, prosecutors want to test Chargers linebacker Steve Foley for performance-enhancing drugs.

Per the AP, the request was made as part of an affidavit that also revealed Foley's blood alcohol concentration to be 0.233 percent, nearly three times the legal limit of 0.08 percent.

"His history of aggressive and even violent contact with law enforcement indicates the possibility of more than mere alcohol involvement," wrote criminal investigator Dan Nordell in the affidavit. "[Steroids] can cause erratic behavior in those that use them. This has been given names like 'roid rage for the uncontrollable outbursts and violence experienced by some users."

Fine, but what in the hell does that have to do with whether Foley committed a crime on the night he was shot three times by an off-duty cop 28 miles outside of his jurisdiction?

Our guess? Law enforcement is looking to harvest some evidence that could be used to smear Foley if/when he files a lawsuit to seek fair compensation for the injuries sustained when a former college rent-a-cop decided to play Starsky and Hutch, shooting him twice in the back of the leg and once in the thigh.

In our "day job" experiences, we've learned that this is a common tactic of companies and organizations made to answer in a court of law for their potential wrongdoing. Instead of focusing on offering up an acceptable explanation for their own conduct, the goal becomes to throw as much mud as possible at the plaintiff, in the hopes that the jury will find the party seeking compensation to be unworthy of an award.

Meanwhile, it'll be very interesting to hear how Foley ended up getting shot in the back of the leg twice, given that he supposedly was in position to fetch a gun from his pants and shoot Deputy Dawg.
 

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I guess I'm in the minority. While I don't understand why he followed him for 30 miles (call for back up or something), I don't think anyone here can say the guy simply targeted him. If the cop determines he needs to pull him over and finds the guy is completely toasted; he refuses to follow directions; he has a history of assaulting police officers,;he reaches into his pocket (supposedly appearing to be reaching for something); and continues to approach the office when told to stop; he's 6'4" and well over 200 pounds; it could very well be that the cop shot him because of those reasons.

I've been stopped before, long ago, for speeding and various other issues as a youngster, I've never once been treated any differently than I deserved.
 

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he's 6'4" and well over 200 pounds

What do his height and weight have to do with it?

The officer followed him in his privately owned vehicle! Would you have pulled over Scotman? I wouldn't have. I wouldn't trust people in SOCAL that much, especially when he is an NFL player. Players are tought not to trust people by the NFL during their mandatory meetings about being targets.

Shot him TWICE in the BACK of the leg. What angle did the officer fire from?

Being in the Army, I'm definitely not a police officer hater. So don't even think about that!

Of course, I woldn't have been DWI:0
 

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silverbear said:
Oh, gimme a break...



Except I haven't read anywhere that his career is over...



That's right, they POURED all that liquor down his throat (do you even know how much liquor it would take for a 265 pounder to register a .233 blood alcohol??

I'm guessing you've had your own run-ins with the law, and just WANT this to be a case of them "targeting" Foley...

Even so, it's quite asinine for you state so certainly what their alleged "motive" was...

:hammer:

yep, that was a heckuva lot of alcohol. That's pretty close to comatose or alcohol poisoning I believe. I don't know if there were any vendettas or other motives but the bottomline is that Foley ended his own career by choosing to get that smashed and drive. What if Foley ended someone else's LIFE because he smashed into them driving drunk? Is Foley's "career" worth more than someone's life?
And what about the cop....if the cop waits...and the thing Foley is pulling from his pocket IS a gun, then its too late for the cop.

and if Foley punched a cop...why didn't he get arrested and suspended for that? Maybe if he had, it would've been a wakeup call. I don't know.

It all started with Foley's bad decision to get crazy smashed and drive. Certainly there should be some investigation into the shooting....but I think at this point the burden of proof is on Foley rather than on the cop since Foley doesn't deny the cop's story and the reports show a ridiculous BAC.
Although I will also say that an offduty cop 30 miles outside his juridiction should've called for someone ON DUTY and IN jurisdiction to make that stop. That was stupid.
The law enforcement is definitely not perfect but I don't think that justifies people's hate and disrespect for the law. For the most part, when i don't break the law, I don't seem to have any problems with law enforcement...funny how that works.

But I think the fact that Foley could've very easily smashed into a killed some completely innocent family is the far greatest evil in it all. I don't want that to be my family.
 
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