For all your Wentz haters. I told you so!

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For all your Wentz haters. I told you so!!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...entz-shines-in-eagles-victory-over-Commanders
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  • By Chris Wesseling
  • Around the NFL Writer
  • Published: Oct. 23, 2017 at 11:47 p.m.
  • Updated: Oct. 24, 2017 at 01:25 a.m.

The Philadelphia Eagles maintained the NFL's best record (6-1), riding four Carson Wentz touchdown passes to a 34-24 victory over the Washington Commanders (3-3) in Week 7. Here's what we learned in Monday night's action:

1. Courtesy of back-to-back scintillating performances on national television, Wentz has announced his arrival as a leading MVP candidate. Featuring dual-threat traits that conjure up images of a young Brett Favre or Ben Roethlisberger, Wentz has been an improvisational wizard boasting prototypical size, elite arm talent and unteachable pocket toughness.

After completing just one pass in the first quarter, Wentz bent the game to his will thereafter, tossing three touchdown passes in less than nine minutes of game time to close out the first half and open the second. He unleashed a gorgeous 64-yard scoring bomb to Mack Hollins, showcased enviable touch and accuracy with an in-stride 46-yard rainbow to Zach Ertz and played peek-a-boo in a crowd of Commanders pass rushers to find Corey Clement for an unlikely 9-yard touchdown. To cap off his personal highlight reel, Wentz answered an impressive Kirk Cousins drive with an incredible sequence that featured a Houdini-like escape and scramble, a perfect sideline fade pass to Alshon Jeffery and a read-option scoring strike to Nelson Agholor.
 
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For all your Wentz haters. I told you so!!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...entz-shines-in-eagles-victory-over-Commanders
  • 0ap1000000222748.jpg
  • By Chris Wesseling
  • Around the NFL Writer
  • Published: Oct. 23, 2017 at 11:47 p.m.
  • Updated: Oct. 24, 2017 at 01:25 a.m.

The Philadelphia Eagles maintained the NFL's best record (6-1), riding four Carson Wentz touchdown passes to a 34-24 victory over the Washington Commanders (3-3) in Week 7. Here's what we learned in Monday night's action:

1. Courtesy of back-to-back scintillating performances on national television, Wentz has announced his arrival as a leading MVP candidate. Featuring dual-threat traits that conjure up images of a young Brett Favre or Ben Roethlisberger, Wentz has been an improvisational wizard boasting prototypical size, elite arm talent and unteachable pocket toughness.

After completing just one pass in the first quarter, Wentz bent the game to his will thereafter, tossing three touchdown passes in less than nine minutes of game time to close out the first half and open the second. He unleashed a gorgeous 64-yard scoring bomb to Mack Hollins, showcased enviable touch and accuracy with an in-stride 46-yard rainbow to Zach Ertz and played peek-a-boo in a crowd of Commanders pass rushers to find Corey Clement for an unlikely 9-yard touchdown. To cap off his personal highlight reel, Wentz answered an impressive Kirk Cousins drive with an incredible sequence that featured a Houdini-like escape and scramble, a perfect sideline fade pass to Alshon Jeffery and a read-option scoring strike to Nelson Agholor.

what did you tell us? We should have went for Wentz instead of Dak? It's kind of nice and good for the game for a young QB to develop into a quality player even if he is an Eagle - I am more than happy with Dak, thank you and especially being we didn't need to mortgage our future.

If I/we were to rue every QB, or any player for that matter, that could've been a Cowboy, there really wouldn't be any time left to enjoy our team.
 

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what did you tell us? We should have went for Wentz instead of Dak? It's kind of nice and good for the game for a young QB to develop into a quality player even if he is an Eagle - I am more than happy with Dak, thank you and especially being we didn't need to mortgage our future.

If I/we were to rue every QB, or any player for that matter, that could've been a Cowboy, there really wouldn't be any time left to enjoy our team.
Dak does have some good features, but needs to develop some that Wentz is showing. His ability to thread windows to his receivers, his ability to see the open receiver, and his game management. Dak is a little behind and I am hoping that he develops those traits, in the near future. The Deadskins game should give us a better feel of how close Dak is to Wentz or will he be a different kind of QB.
 

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Dak does have some good features, but needs to develop some that Wentz is showing. His ability to thread windows to his receivers, his ability to see the open receiver, and his game management. Dak is a little behind and I am hoping that he develops those traits, in the near future. The Deadskins game should give us a better feel of how close Dak is to Wentz or will he be a different kind of QB.

Whats wrong with Daks game management?
 
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Dak does have some good features, but needs to develop some that Wentz is showing. His ability to thread windows to his receivers, his ability to see the open receiver, and his game management. Dak is a little behind and I am hoping that he develops those traits, in the near future. The Deadskins game should give us a better feel of how close Dak is to Wentz or will he be a different kind of QB.
I don't watch Wentz and the Eagles enough to challenge your opinion but you said Dak is "a little behind" so I take it you're not bashing him. I think Dak is already damn good QB and sky is the limit!
 

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Whats wrong with Daks game management?
OK, this is what I see at this time. The last two games before the 49ers he was running the coaches play call and not seeing the defense tactic. He was relying on his physical talent to get out of trouble. This could be because of the coaches not trusting him yet or his learning curve at his point.
 

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OK, this is what I see at this time. The last two games before the 49ers he was running the coaches play call and not seeing the defense tactic. He was relying on his physical talent to get out of trouble. This could be because of the coaches not trusting him yet or his learning curve at his point.

And Wentz hasn't done any of that?
 

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I think for some, admitting that Wentz is a beast and a legit potential star in this league is some sort of referendum on Prescott. Like if you admit the kid is legit, it's somehow disrespectful towards Prescott.

The reality is Wentz is legit. He's going to be a pain in our butts for the next dozen years. And yes, he's probably the MVP favorite right now (he's now #1 in Vegas odds). But guess what? Prescott is pretty damn good himself.

Personally, it's kind of depressing. Because it appears that after years of bumbling around, they now have a front office that seems to know how to build something. And we don't. We have a front office that instead of building on what was a 13-3 team, they half-assed it in FA again and made this team worse in the offseason.
 

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OK, this is what I see at this time. The last two games before the 49ers he was running the coaches play call and not seeing the defense tactic. He was relying on his physical talent to get out of trouble. This could be because of the coaches not trusting him yet or his learning curve at his point.

I'm assuming that you mean Dak running to make up for the play breaking down, when Wentz has done that too. Dak still has impressive Stats and I think that main difference in the records between the Cowboys/Eagles right now is that the Eagles have a much better Defense. I'm sure that the Cowboys would be 6-1 as well if our D was as good as the Eagles, considering how the O scored at least 30 points in multiple games. Which would win most NFL teams games if they had decent Defense.
 

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I think for some, admitting that Wentz is a beast and a legit potential star in this league is some sort of referendum on Prescott. Like if you admit the kid is legit, it's somehow disrespectful towards Prescott.

The reality is Wentz is legit. He's going to be a pain in our butts for the next dozen years. And yes, he's probably the MVP favorite right now (he's now #1 in Vegas odds). But guess what? Prescott is pretty damn good himself.

Personally, it's kind of depressing. Because it appears that after years of bumbling around, they now have a front office that seems to know how to build something. And we don't. We have a front office that instead of building on what was a 13-3 team, they half-assed it in FA again and made this team worse in the offseason.

It's difficult to admit that Wentz is good when he is an Eagles. I can give him credit for being an uprising QB. But, it's the Debbie downers on this board who are against Dak and give more love to a division rivals QB than they give to Dak. Giving all of the love to Wentz while refusing to admit that Dak is good as well and will also be a pain/threat to the rest of the division for some time to come.

I can admit that Wentz is good, but I'm happy with Dak and won't throw him under the bus for the sake of uplifting Wentz like some Cowboys fans on this board does. I mean it's irritating when the Cowboys win a game and some come in looking for any flaw that Dak made during the game to bash on him. Like you said with the front office, if they had bothered to focus on things like Defense then we would have a better record right now.
 

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It's difficult to admit that Wentz is good when he is an Eagles. I can give him credit for being an uprising QB. But, it's the Debbie downers on this board who are against Dak and give more love to a division rivals QB than they give to Dak. Giving all of the love to Wentz while refusing to admit that Dak is good as well and will also be a pain/threat to the rest of the division for some time to come.

I can admit that Wentz is good, but I'm happy with Dak and won't throw him under the bus for the sake of uplifting Wentz like some Cowboys fans on this board does. I mean it's irritating when the Cowboys win a game and some come in looking for any flaw that Dak made during the game to bash on him. Like you said with the front office, if they had bothered to focus on things like Defense then we would have a better record right now.

My fear is they will waste Elliott's and Prescott's prime years (and cheap contract years) screwing around trying to build the defense solely through the draft. They have some cap space this offseason, they better spend it on some key FAs to improve the defense.
 

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Dak does have some good features, but needs to develop some that Wentz is showing. His ability to thread windows to his receivers, his ability to see the open receiver, and his game management. Dak is a little behind and I am hoping that he develops those traits, in the near future. The Deadskins game should give us a better feel of how close Dak is to Wentz or will he be a different kind of QB.

He'll be a different kind. A worse kind. He can't do the things you mentioned. He lacks arm talent.
 

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He'll be a different kind. A worse kind. He can't do the things you mentioned. He lacks arm talent.
Easy boy, easy! Wentz looks more like Brady to me. Dak is not a gun slinger but could be a touch passer for short to intermediate passes like Terry Bradshaw was. Time will tell.
 

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Easy boy, easy! Wentz looks more like Brady to me. Dak is not a gun slinger but could be a touch passer for short to intermediate passes like Terry Bradshaw was. Time will tell.

Well now....so he manages a game like Brady.
 

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OK, this is what I see at this time. The last two games before the 49ers he was running the coaches play call and not seeing the defense tactic. He was relying on his physical talent to get out of trouble. This could be because of the coaches not trusting him yet or his learning curve at his point.

Wentz struggled against the blitz. If he wasn't so big and strong and if the Skins could tackle, he would have had a rough night. The same happened against the Panthers until Kuechly got injured.

If there's anybody using their physical talent to bail themselves out of trouble, it's Wentz.




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Well now....so he manages a game like Brady.
Brady as in threading windows, finding receivers, and yes managing games. Wentz is far better as an escape artist in the pocket but does not have Brady's coach. By the way, Wentz is using the entire playbook while Dak is using only a part of his. Wentz has shown that he can handle it where Dak is still proving that he can handle some of the plays. But again, too early to say what these two will become.
 
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By the way, Wentz is using the entire playbook while Dak is using only a part of his. Wentz has shown that he can handle it where Dak is still proving that he can handle some of the plays.
It's okay to say Wentz is good, but this is completely made up. What facts do you have to back up this statement?
 

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It's okay to say Wentz is good, but this is completely made up. What facts do you have to back up this statement?

Yes, how do fans know what part of the playbook Dak is using and how much of it.
 

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It's okay to say Wentz is good, but this is completely made up. What facts do you have to back up this statement?
Lets take Wentz first. Did you listen to the game Monday night. The announcers made that statement during the game when Wentz was evaluating the defense for the play, and if you have been watching the NFL network shows all (ALL) of the analyst said the same thing. Now on to Dak, If you watched the games he has four running plays and four passing plays. This could be because of the coaches and if you watch the NFL network shows they also talk about this. This is what makes the Cowboys so predictable. If this is coaching then they believe that the Cowboys can out muscle the opponent.

You need to watch more analyst shows.
 
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