For those not wanting to pick a QB at 4

Super_Kazuya

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No but with Romo here it would be nice to transition into having a QB that been in the league for 2 or 3 years..

Also, losing Romo completely cripples this team and Romo is aging, has a messed up back, and just broke his shoulder twice.

The smartest thing we could do to keep our season alive if we lose Romo for an extended period is to draft a legit talent at QB and not a basic D End like Bosa or a corner.




Heck, at least for entertainment purposes I would rather see Wentz out there then Kellen Moore or some scrub like that.


Garrett teaches a horribly bland style of football that is hard to watch.

I agree it would be nice, but it is certainly not a requirement for success. It's closer to a fluke, as the majority of quarterbacks who are worth a darn in this league play from day one and even the ones who didn't, like Carson Palmer and Aaron Rodgers were very talented players who almost certainly would have been fine playing right away. It's different for someone like Romo, who Parcells said many times would not have made it had he played right away... he really needed to develop. I'm pretty sure the freaking number one pick in the draft and Heisman winning Palmer would have been just fine if he didn't sit on the bench for a season.
 

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If it was me I would be looking at. QB this year and go D on day 2 and look for a WR next year and go D on day 2.

Reason being, we have Bryant locked up for 4 more seasons and he will be over 30 I believe when his contract is done. Taking a WR in first next year you have a guy that can take over as that bell cow WR once Bryant hits that 3rd contract over the age of 30
I think Bryant stays the #1 WR for a few more seasons when he is in his 3rd Contract. He has never relied on speed to dominate. As long as he can still jump and bully DBs with his strength, he will be a top WR in the game.

Honestly next year is the year to take a RB in 1st. 4 absolute beast RBs with 1st round grades and a potential 5th with a 1st-2nd grade (RB from Oregon Royce Freeman). Also never know who will have a breakout year.
 

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For those not wanting to pick a QB at 4
The only way I pick a QB at 4 is if the grade on one of the QB's warrants drafting one that high. Drafting a QB at 4 just to be drafting a QB at 4 is a huge mistake.
 

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The only way I pick a QB at 4 is if the grade on one of the QB's warrants drafting one that high. Drafting a QB at 4 just to be drafting a QB at 4 is a huge mistake.

Do you feel we will be grading the QB's differently then the other teams with a top 10 or top 15 pick?
 

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What is your plan to replace Romo if he retires next year, or the following year?

Let's say Romo stays healthy all year and wins the SB and rides off into the sunset, or he is injured and decides he's had enough, what is the plan?

Honestly, there should be some very nice developmental prospects with pro arms into the later 4th.
 

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We need 2 or 3 starting d-linemen, a couple starting LB's, 3 starters in the secondary, a starting WR and a potential starting RB and folks want to draft a QB and watch him collect splinters? Only if you are giving up on the current team and rebuilding.
 
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I agree it would be nice, but it is certainly not a requirement for success. It's closer to a fluke, as the majority of quarterbacks who are worth a darn in this league play from day one and even the ones who didn't, like Carson Palmer and Aaron Rodgers were very talented players who almost certainly would have been fine playing right away. It's different for someone like Romo, who Parcells said many times would not have made it had he played right away... he really needed to develop. I'm pretty sure the freaking number one pick in the draft and Heisman winning Palmer would have been just fine if he didn't sit on the bench for a season.

You can't prove that, as you can't tell how many QB picked high and thrown into the fire on crappy teams would have faired if the situation had been different.

Steve Young and Jim Plunkett (in Plunkett's case two teams) are two examples of QBs who didn't start winning until the moved to better teams.

Before the cap and free agency it was common for QBs to get time to develop before starting (on the better run organizations anyway which the Boys once were).
 

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You can't prove that, as you can't tell how many QB picked high and thrown into the fire on crappy teams would have faired if the situation had been different.

Steve Young and Jim Plunkett (in Plunkett's case two teams) are two examples of QBs who didn't start winning until the moved to better teams.

Before the cap and free agency it was common for QBs to get time to develop before starting (on the better run organizations anyway which the Boys once were).

What do you mean I can't prove it? I'll say it again, the majority of the quarterbacks who are worth anything in this league play from day one or very close to it. The idea that QBs need to sit on the bench for several seasons like apprentice welders is a myth created by the legend of Aaron Rodgers, which happened 10 years ago but people reference it like it happened yesterday. It doesn't mean it's not a nice thing to try. But you don't have to do it. And you certainly don't have to reach to take a mediocre QB prospect from a crappy draft to do it either.
 

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We need 2 or 3 starting d-linemen, a couple starting LB's, 3 starters in the secondary, a starting WR and a potential starting RB and folks want to draft a QB and watch him collect splinters? Only if you are giving up on the current team and rebuilding.

Because the NFL is all about the QB and we are presented with a top 5 pick.


All of this hope we have of competing for a championship begins and ends with Romo and Romo has a messed up back and broke the same shoulder twice.

Having a guy that can step in and make plays from the QB position if Romo goes down again is far more important than anything else we can draft.

If Romo stays healthy then fine.. A Ramsey or Bosa would be a nice piece.
 

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What do you mean I can't prove it? I'll say it again, the majority of the quarterbacks who are worth anything in this league play from day one or very close to it. The idea that QBs need to sit on the bench for several seasons like apprentice welders is a myth created by the legend of Aaron Rodgers, which happened 10 years ago but people reference it like it happened yesterday. It doesn't mean it's not a nice thing to try. But you don't have to do it. And you certainly don't have to reach to take a mediocre QB prospect from a crappy draft to do it either.


I don't think sitting is the end all be all for a QB's success but I do think it can definitely help. Especially a QB like Wentz who is a super talent but probably needs a little bit of seasoning before he plays.

Confidence is a QB's best weapon and being fully prepared before you put your game on display is a good thing imo.
 

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What do you mean I can't prove it? I'll say it again, the majority of the quarterbacks who are worth anything in this league play from day one or very close to it. The idea that QBs need to sit on the bench for several seasons like apprentice welders is a myth created by the legend of Aaron Rodgers, which happened 10 years ago but people reference it like it happened yesterday. It doesn't mean it's not a nice thing to try. But you don't have to do it. And you certainly don't have to reach to take a mediocre QB prospect from a crappy draft to do it either.

Again you can't prove the majority of QBs worth a dam start from day one and survive.

If you can then do so!

Equally not everything revolves around Aaron Rodgers. Our very own Rodger Staubach sat before he shared time and then started.

Just because it's more than 10 years ago doesn't mean it's not relevant.
 

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Do you feel we will be grading the QB's differently then the other teams with a top 10 or top 15 pick?

Wut?

I'll bet you a large sum of cash that if you look at the boards of the teams with the Top 15 picks, you will see quite a bit of randomness with some teams have a guy like Wentz as a Top 3 guy and some having him outside the Top 10, maybe the Top 15.
 

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Because the NFL is all about the QB and we are presented with a top 5 pick.


All of this hope we have of competing for a championship begins and ends with Romo and Romo has a messed up back and broke the same shoulder twice.

Having a guy that can step in and make plays from the QB position if Romo goes down again is far more important than anything else we can draft.

If Romo stays healthy then fine.. A Ramsey or Bosa would be a nice piece.

And a rookie QB is not going to be able to do that.
 

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And a rookie QB is not going to be able to do that.

Don't care.. They're only a rookie for 1 year.. Have a vet on the roster this year.. Fine by me.

But make sure that when the Romo era ends we have a quick transition because this offense is built to win now.

Don't miss out on a year with a young OL like we have and a stud WR in Dez.
 

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I dont know who i want them to draft, i go back and forth on the qb thing. I just want a medium to long term answer at any position of need or a long term answer at qb if thats where they go.
 
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