Forced Missed Tackles so far - go Murray!

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Sarge said:
Agreed.
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there are more then a two dozen Alred Morris's in the league today. you put them in the right system and they produce.

but they are just guys. little speed. little ability to break away from tackles. young legs.
 
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Shanahan makes all of his running backs look like hall of famers.

He does have a good system for that.

Remember his Denver days? Turning 3rd string running backs and I think even a full back into 1000 yard rushers.
 
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AbeBeta said:
He does seem to sort of give up on some runs when he breaks free.
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if it keeps him healthy, keeps him from turning it over, keeps him gaining well over 100 yds, and helps him find the end zone, then go down or go out of bounds and fight another play
 
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The Natural said:
What's the difference between a forced missed tackle and a regular missed tackle?
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not sure, it is kind of like unforced vs forced turnovers...either way the defense gets credit even if all they did was be in the right place at the right time. so many turnovers are unforced, but the analysts and announcers sing all sorts of praises to the D, instead of doing their job and saying the offense giftwrapped the ball.

i guess a regular missed tackle is when the ball carrier runs through the tacklers grasp and the forced missed tackle is when the ball carrier jukes or stiff arms his way away from a tackler. But this is mere speculation on my part.
 
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Don Corleone said:
Yeah I find it funny that people think this is a positive stat. There are two factor at play:

1. A sufficient sample size, meaning that the backs get a good number of carries.

2. The would be tacklers must have a chance to ATTEMPT to tackle.

Point number 2 is my indictment of Murray. He gives plenty of opportunities for defenders to tackle him, where other backs would seek a clear path and not allow the tackle attempt.
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Unless you've tracked all of Demarco's carries and that of every other back on the list...you're really just making things up.

I really am frustrated with T.Davis. We NEVER heard about Murray running to darkness and people were generally excited to have him in the lineup and healthy.

Suddenly he is leaving all these yards on the table and is an average running back. Now every run of his that isn't picture perfect is proof positive he is a bum. Every positive run he gets an 'atta boy' way to not be a bum.

People are ridiculous.
 
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Toruk_Makto said:
Unless you've tracked all of Demarco's carries and that of every other back on the list...you're really just making things up.

I really am frustrated with T.Davis. We NEVER heard about Murray running to darkness and people were generally excited to have him in the lineup and healthy.

Suddenly he is leaving all these yards on the table and is an average running back. Now every run of his that isn't picture perfect is proof positive he is a bum. Every positive run he gets an 'atta boy' way to not be a bum.

People are ridiculous.
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I'm not making anything up. I think a more telling stat would be missed tackles per rush attempt. I am simply poking holes at the notion that this chart is a "positive" statistic highlighting that Murray doesn't run to darkness.

I have no agendas here. I go by what this player does on the field. I have seen many instances where he finds the rear end of his blockers instead of taking another nearby lane where he could get some more yards.
 
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Don Corleone said:
I'm not making anything up. I think a more telling stat would be missed tackles per rush attempt. I am simply poking holes at the notion that this chart is a "positive" statistic highlighting that Murray doesn't run to darkness.

I have no agendas here. I go by what this player does on the field. I have seen many instances where he finds the rear end of his blockers instead of taking another nearby lane where he could get some more yards.
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How about this stat: 4.8 career ypc. By the way, this past week, Terrell Davis, who coined the "running to darkness" phrase, said that Demarco "gets more yards than what the play give him."
 
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Don Corleone said:
I'm not making anything up. I think a more telling stat would be missed tackles per rush attempt. I am simply poking holes at the notion that this chart is a "positive" statistic highlighting that Murray doesn't run to darkness.

I have no agendas here. I go by what this player does on the field. I have seen many instances where he finds the rear end of his blockers instead of taking another nearby lane where he could get some more yards.
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Yes..."many plays"

How many? 3? 4 times? On 58 carries?

That's what we're going with?
 
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