Former scout: Derrick Henry looks like fourth-round pick

[reddyuta]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...out-derrick-henry-looks-like-fourthround-pick

this part i agree with

"(Ohio State's Ezekiel) Elliott can create on his own, (Henry) can't," the scout said.

I am mostly against drafting RBs high but Elliott i really good .

 

[IAmLegend]

Basically what I said in the other Henry thread. Great college back, no doubt. But he's going to need a great O-Line in front of him at the next level like he does at Bama now if he wants to be successful. He's a tall, North/South bruising back without much wiggle or agility. Probably runs a 4.5 or 4.6 so he;s not going to burn anybody. Brandon Jacobs is a fair comparison, and he had a decent 8-yr career (a couple good years, a few pedestrian ones), but Jacobs also went in the 4th round. I think he winds up going at some point in the 2nd round after the combine.

Zeke, on the other hand, reminds me of Frank Gore (that's a good thing), and I think he's going to be a very good pro for a long time. But I would really hate to burn a 1st-Rounder on a RB, especially if it's a top 12 pick, and that's what it would take to grab Elliott because he'll be long gone by the time we pick in the 2nd. Much rather go DB or LB in the first.

 

[Macnalty]

Basically what I said in the other Henry thread. Great college back, no doubt. But he's going to need a great O-Line in front of him at the next level like he does at Bama now if he wants to be successful. He's a tall, North/South bruising back without much wiggle or agility. Probably runs a 4.5 or 4.6 so he;s not going to burn anybody. Brandon Jacobs is a fair comparison, and he had a decent 8-yr career (a couple good years, a few pedestrian ones), but Jacobs also went in the 4th round. I think he winds up going at some point in the 2nd round after the combine.

Zeke, on the other hand, reminds me of Frank Gore (that's a good thing), and I think he's going to be a very good pro for a long time. But I would really hate to burn a 1st-Rounder on a RB, especially if it's a top 12 pick, and that's what it would take to grab Elliott because he'll be long gone by the time we pick in the 2nd. Much rather go DB or LB in the first.

Frank Gore is a great analogy to Elliot. As of December 2015 I would be disappointed if Henry was our pick in the first, unlike years past this OLine for Alabama is softer and less NFL like than seasons past. IMO that make Henry better than previous Alabama RB's but still not ahead of Elliot.

 

[tyke1doe]

I heard someone on MIKE & MIKE (can't remember who) say Henry would go between the 3rd and 5th round. I've watch Henry a lot, and I think he's seen his best days in college. He doesn't have good lateral movement so he's not going to give you anything on sweeps. And it takes him too long to hit top speed. He's going to need a great offensive line. I think he would fit the Cowboys offense fine. Reminds me of Eddie George sans the high knee lift.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Bama has actually produced some very good NFL backs of late. Lacy, Ingram and Yeldon

 

[Hardline]

I would take him in the second round.

 

[mattjames2010]

He's a late first early second pick.

Saying he's a 4th round talent is absolute lunacy. That doesn't mean he's going to go and become the next AP, not sure anyone believes he's at that level, but he has the talent to be a really good RB in this league.

 

[mattjames2010]

Frank Gore is a great analogy to Elliot. As of December 2015 I would be disappointed if Henry was our pick in the first, unlike years past this OLine for Alabama is softer and less NFL like than seasons past. IMO that make Henry better than previous Alabama RB's but still not ahead of Elliot.

If we end up with a top 15 pick, I highly doubt it.

 

[joseephuss]

Bama has actually produced some very good NFL backs of late. Lacy, Ingram and Yeldon

I suppose it depends on the definition of "very good".

Lacy fits my definition of very good with two seasons of 1100 yards rushing, but he may not crack 1000 yards this year. His rushing yards and rushing TDs have gone down each season. Perhaps we have already seen him at his best.

Ingram is not very good in my opinion. He has yet to have a 1000 yard season.

Yeldon is too early in his career to draw any conclusions. He has had some good moments, but he may not top 1000 yards this rookie season, either.

 

[ghst187]

But I would really hate to burn a 1st-Rounder on a RB, especially if it's a top 12 pick, and that's what it would take to grab Elliott because he'll be long gone by the time we pick in the 2nd. Much rather go DB or LB in the first.

totally understand and agree with what you're saying about using a 1st round pick on a RB, HOWEVER it is my belief that Elliott would be the ONLY pick in this draft we could make that would turn our fortunes around almost over night, so if it requires our first round pick, then so be it. As highly as I suspect we'll be drafting, the ONLY picks I support are, in order, QB Lynch, QB Goff, RB Elliott, or trade down QB Wentz. As great as Bosa and Ramsey are likely to be, QBs it too important to pass up when you are drafting high, even if you have one. And for our team the way it is built, an RB like Elliott gives us the most bang for our buck.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I suppose it depends on the definition of "very good".

Lacy fits my definition of very good with two seasons of 1100 yards rushing, but he may not crack 1000 yards this year. His rushing yards and rushing TDs have gone down each season. Perhaps we have already seen him at his best.

Ingram is not very good in my opinion. He has yet to have a 1000 yard season.

Yeldon is too early in his career to draw any conclusions. He has had some good moments, but he may not top 1000 yards this rookie season, either.

Ingram is a good back. Would be a very good back if he didnt play for such a pass heavy team. Yeldon should get 1,000 this season behind one of the worst OLs in the NFL. He will get better once they add some talent there and the WRs and QBs grow.

People keep saying Bama backs have been bad in the NFL. I dont get how. Trent Richardson is the only one who has been a bust

 

[reddyuta]

4th RD seems right to me.He is 240 LBs and takes time to get going,in the NFL you need nimble feet and be able to cut quickly.

 

[joseephuss]

Ingram is a good back. Would be a very good back if he didnt play for such a pass heavy team. Yeldon should get 1,000 this season behind one of the worst OLs in the NFL. He will get better once they add some talent there and the WRs and QBs grow.

People keep saying Bama backs have been bad in the NFL. I dont get how. Trent Richardson is the only one who has been a bust

Ingram struggles to stay healthy with the Saints. He would wither on a run heavy team. He isn't Trent Richardson, but he isn't very good, either.

 

[BigD5]

Alabama's offensive line is not very good. Henry creates on his own. I think they are 98th in loss yardage plays. Henry is gonna be great. He was great in high school. He's great in college. He's big. He's powerful. He's blazing fast. I don't understand the talk of him not being able to tote the load. He has been getting 30-50 carries a game since high school. And if anybody has watched him, he's kind of like Emmitt, in that he never really takes a huge hit. He always slithers away to make the defenders miss the kill shots on him

He's also an outstanding pass blocker

 

[BigD5]

Here's some speed

 

[tyke1doe]

Alabama's offensive line is not very good. Henry creates on his own. I think they are 98th in loss yardage plays. Henry is gonna be great. He was great in high school. He's great in college. He's big. He's powerful. He's blazing fast. I don't understand the talk of him not being able to tote the load. He has been getting 30-50 carries a game since high school. And if anybody has watched him, he's kind of like Emmitt, in that he never really takes a huge hit. He always slithers away to make the defenders miss the kill shots on him

He's also an outstanding pass blocker

I watch him every game. He is NOT like Emmitt Smith.

 

[BigD5]

I watch him every game. He is NOT like Emmitt Smith.

I didn't say he was like Emmitt. I said his ability to never take a huge shot was like Emmitt

 

[Hoofbite]

I suppose it depends on the definition of "very good".

Lacy fits my definition of very good with two seasons of 1100 yards rushing, but he may not crack 1000 yards this year. His rushing yards and rushing TDs have gone down each season. Perhaps we have already seen him at his best.

Ingram is not very good in my opinion. He has yet to have a 1000 yard season.

Yeldon is too early in his career to draw any conclusions. He has had some good moments, but he may not top 1000 yards this rookie season, either.

Agreed. Lacy at his best is "very good".

Ingram at his best is probably "good", but he's been in the league 5 years and prior to last year he had a lot to prove.

Then there's Trent Richardson. The only thing he's good at is carrying around a prematurely receding hairline. Dude's on a one-way ticket to Skullet City.

 

[tyke1doe]

I didn't say he was like Emmitt. I said his ability to never take a huge shot was like Emmitt

Okay. But I still don't think he's Emmitt in that respect. He's been hit a lot in the backfield. He's just a beast when he gets in the clear.
But the defenders are going to be faster in the NFL than what he's seeing now. He's going to need a good offensive line. He's more Eddie George than Emmitt.

 

[BigD5]

Okay. But I still don't think he's Emmitt in that respect. He's been hit a lot in the backfield. He's just a beast when he gets in the clear.
But the defenders are going to be faster in the NFL than what he's seeing now. He's going to need a good offensive line. He's more Eddie George than Emmitt.

I DIDN'T SAY HE WAS EMMITT SMITH. Can you read? I said Derrick Henry never takes huge hits from defenders. Do you remember Emmitt smith? He never took huge hits from defenders either. Do you understand the comparison there? Cause that's where is related and ended the comparisons between Emmitt and Henry. If I had to compare Henry to somebody it would be Erik Dickerson.

On your other stupid note, Derrick Henry's offensive line sucks. They suck bad. Kelly the center is a pretty good college center. They are like 98th in allowing tackles for loss. Henry has over 1,000 yards after contact. Do you understand what I'm saying? If not, I will clarify it some more for you