Fox Sports: Briggs Deal Dead

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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6640430

Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com
Posted: 14 minutes ago


FOXSports.com has learned that the Bears have turned down the Commanders' offer of trading the sixth pick of April's draft for Chicago's Pro Bowl linebacker and the 31st pick of the draft. Commanders sources say Bears GM Jerry Angelo has phoned Washington with his decision.

For now the deal is dead, but that doesn't necessarily mean the deal is lost for good. It appears that the main sticking point is the fact that the Bears believe the pot isn't sweet enough as is.

Chicago would love the Commanders' young linebacker Rocky McIntosh in the deal to play Briggs' weakside linebacker position. Trading Briggs would leave Chicago without a starting weakside LB. However, the Commanders sources contend they do not want to part with McIntosh, even though he'll either have to move positions or wait for an injury to Briggs if he is to get on the field over the next couple of years.

One Commanders official said that, despite the logjam, they view McIntosh as a good young player who has too much upside to part with. Perhaps one option would be for the Commanders to include McIntosh but then ask Chicago for more as well to even it out a bit.

At this point, however, the two sides have hit a stalemate, putting them right back where they started before the NFL Owners Meeting last week in Phoenix.

Jay Glazer is a senior NFL writer for FOXSports.com.



Jerry.. Angelo.. is... an... idiot.
 

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Ive got it.........

to skins .......

Briggs
Rd 1 pick 31
Rd 4 pick 130

to Bears......

Macintosh
Rd 1 pick 6
 

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I am not at all surprised the Bears asked for McIntosh in the deal. After all, he would be relegated to backup or 3rd string if the Skins do acquire Briggs, but his youth is upside for them.

I am not surprised Washington said no thanks. I am surprised they even are offering their 6th overall pick. IMO they need DL not OLB. There would be very good D-linemen available at #6, not at #31.

If I were Chicago I would do the deal and then trade down in the first. They can pick up a Patrick Willis or Paul Posluzny and another pick in the trade down and be further along than if they keep Briggs and let him sit for 10 games in protest.

The deal makes more sense for Chicago than it does for Washington. IMO.
 

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Hostile;1444893 said:
I am not at all surprised the Bears asked for McIntosh in the deal. After all, he would be relegated to backup or 3rd string if the Skins do acquire Briggs, but his youth is upside for them.

I am not surprised Washington said no thanks. I am surprised they even are offering their 6th overall pick. IMO they need DL not OLB. There would be very good D-linemen available at #6, not at #31.

If I were Chicago I would do the deal and then trade down in the first. They can pick up a Patrick Willis or Paul Posluzny and another pick in the trade down and be further along than if they keep Briggs and let him sit for 10 games in protest.

The deal makes more sense for Chicago than it does for Washington. IMO.

I agree, I was hoping the deal would go through. The Skins have quite a few LB's, but not many D-linemen. I still think a deal can be done by draft day, so here's to hoping the deal gets done. :)
 

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Hostile;1444893 said:
I am surprised they even are offering their 6th overall pick. IMO they need DL not OLB. There would be very good D-linemen available at #6, not at #31.

The Commanders don't want to draft at that position. They are going to make a big push to either move up or move down on the board. I really dont think that a lot of these d-lineman prospects interest our organization.

Adams is known to have troubles against the run (which comes first in a GW system), and Anderson has been falling on a lot of peoples boards as of late. It seems like neither DE is suited for our liking. Now, I could see them interested in Okoye, but he isn't exactly worth the #6, which is why I think we will try to trade down and pick up some more draft picks.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1444941 said:
The Commanders don't want to draft at that position. They are going to make a big push to either move up or move down on the board. I really dont think that a lot of these d-lineman prospects interest our organization.

Adams is known to have troubles against the run (which comes first in a GW system), and Anderson has been falling on a lot of peoples boards as of late. It seems like neither DE is suited for our liking. Now, I could see them interested in Okoye, but he isn't exactly worth the #6, which is why I think we will try to trade down and pick up some more draft picks.

Given their enormous amount of cap space, I wonder if they just might pull a Vikings and wait until people take everyone but Okoye off the boards. Doesn't look like there's alot of suitors for that 6 pick, unless one of the Big 3-4 falls.
 

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superpunk;1444943 said:
Given their enormous amount of cap space, I wonder if they just might pull a Vikings and wait until people take everyone but Okoye off the boards. Doesn't look like there's alot of suitors for that 6 pick, unless one of the Big 3-4 falls.

they have around 6-7 mil left in cap, which is plenty to sign any rookie they might desire
 

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I bet a deal still gets done. They still have 4 more weeks to posture and meet somewhere in the middle.

My guess is that Chicago trades Briggs, #31 and a 4th round pick to Washington for #6 and McIntosh.
 

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InmanRoshi;1444969 said:
I bet a deal still gets done. They still have 4 more weeks to posture and meet somewhere in the middle.

My guess is that Chicago trades Briggs, #31 and a 4th round pick to Washington for #6 and McIntosh.

I doubt it. We were pretty adamant about just the swap and Briggs.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1444962 said:
they have around 6-7 mil left in cap, which is plenty to sign any rookie they might desire

Maybe.

Or maybe not.

Did you see that? That just happened.

In any case, they're up against it and signing quality depth is out of the question, since you can't make ****** contracts for them. ;)
 

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I'm honestly very surprised this didn't go down. I'm wondering if Jerry Angelo has some sort of superiority complex. You should be able to shelf your arrogance over being "bullied" into a trade when you're being offered so much value.
 

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don't worry guys, there's 27 days left for Danny and CO to do something ridiculously stupid
 

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Bob Sacamano;1444997 said:
don't worry guys, there's 27 days left for Danny and CO to do something ridiculously stupid

That is a lot of time to wait out. At least this will finally slow down the daily "Was Briggs traded?" monitoring ive been doing for what seems like years. I cant believe no one has asked Gibbs why the Commanders are even trying to make this trade happen with Rocky and Lemar there. Maybe someone has and i just missed it.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1444941 said:
The Commanders don't want to draft at that position. They are going to make a big push to either move up or move down on the board. I really dont think that a lot of these d-lineman prospects interest our organization.

Adams is known to have troubles against the run (which comes first in a GW system), and Anderson has been falling on a lot of peoples boards as of late. It seems like neither DE is suited for our liking. Now, I could see them interested in Okoye, but he isn't exactly worth the #6, which is why I think we will try to trade down and pick up some more draft picks.
Psst. The knock on Bruce Smith and Julius Peppers when they were Draft prospects was they had issues against the run if you ran right at them because they would over pursue.

That's a really superfluous reason to pass on Adams. If you can't see that I am sorry. I can't help you because I am not an eye doctor nor a psychologist despite my good vision and logical thoguht processes.
 

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Psst. The knock on Bruce Smith and Julius Peppers when they were Draft prospects was they had issues against the run if you ran right at them because they would over pursue.

That's a really superfluous reason to pass on Adams. If you can't see that I am sorry. I can't help you because I am not an eye doctor nor a psychologist despite my good vision and logical thoguht processes.
Its a situation where teams try to justify not taking a certain player. I watched every play Gaines Adams played the last two seasons, and he is stout all around, as much as you can tell from a fan's perspective.
 

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superpunk;1444943 said:
Given their enormous amount of cap space, I wonder if they just might pull a Vikings and wait until people take everyone but Okoye off the boards. Doesn't look like there's alot of suitors for that 6 pick, unless one of the Big 3-4 falls.

I'd give em the number 22 and Keith Davis right now. No problem at all.

;)
 

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dogunwo;1445015 said:
Its a situation where teams try to justify not taking a certain player. I watched every play Gaines Adams played the last two seasons, and he is stout all around, as much as you can tell from a fan's perspective.
I agree. If you have a total of 19 sacks in a season you don't look at the best pass rusher on the board and worry about his run coverage skills.
 
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