Frank Coyle Top 50 overall 4/21/15....

[Plankton]

IMO he is a 34 5 tech and that's about it. I don't expect much of anything out of him, splash-play wise. Armstead actually reminds me a lot of Tyson Jackson, 3rd overall pick by KC out of LSU. Good athleticism for his size but will play a position where he mainly clogs lanes in the run game and simply isn't a very accomplished or instinctive football player.

If I'm a GM I am staying miles away from this guy.

The good news for the Cowboys is that he really isn't a scheme fit at all.

 

[AsthmaField]

I agree with your premise.

Even though I don't think Kendricks is a 1st rounder.

I see Coyle doesn't even have him in his top-50.

Do you like Kendricks or Thompson better?

 

[AsthmaField]

The good news for the Cowboys is that he really isn't a scheme fit at all.

Yeah, he is about as far away a scheme fit in Marinelli's defense as one can get and still be eligible for the NFL draft. If Dallas got the guy, they'd probably convert him to a gigantic TE, lol.

 

[tm1119]

LOL!

Just posted about that.

I don't think his production matches his athletic skills.

"Mamula-like".

Some fun facts for you....Mike Mamula had 24 sacks at BC with 13 of them coming in 1 season. Mike Mamula also had 31.5 sacks and 8 FF in just 77 career games played over 5 NFL seasons. At least 2 of those seasons were very injury plagued. Knee injuries ruined his career, it had nothing to do with him being just an elite athlete and not a good football player

So yeah, really bad comparison. And you should at least bother to watch Owa play before you post more nonsensical things.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Some fun facts for you....Mike Mamula had 24 sacks at BC with 13 of them coming in 1 season. Mike Mamula also had 31.5 sacks and 8 FF in just 77 career games played over 5 NFL seasons. At least 2 of those seasons were very injury plagued. Knee injuries ruined his career, it had nothing to do with him being just an elite athlete and not a good football player

So yeah, really bad comparison. And you should at least bother to watch Owa play before you post more nonsensical things.

Someone kick the pet cat? LOL!

I have watched him play and I've looked at the numbers.

He's a reach if the Cowboys select him at #27.

And certainly there are folks that feel the same.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Do you like Kendricks or Thompson better?

I think they're both 3rd round guys.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Someone kick the pet cat? LOL!

I have watched him play and I've looked at the numbers.

He's a reach if the Cowboys select him at #27.

And certainly there are folks that feel the same.

I don't think he is a reach at 27.

Is he a top-twenty prospect? No, but he does fall into that second tier of players that can go anywhere from 25 to 45.

If he is the best option, based on need, available at 27, I would not have a problem with him. The likelihood of a top-talent being there for the Cowboys who would fill a greater need, though, is pretty good.

 

[AsthmaField]

I think they're both 3rd round guys.

Thanks for answering.

I see them more like second round guys. Kendricks is very good at what he does and he is a really clean prospect. I actually see him as a guy with first round skills who plays a second round position... at least in Marinelli's defense. Of course, they could take him in the first but I feel like 43 LB isn't nearly as impactful as some other positions in this defense. DE and 3T DT are both much more difficult to fill once the elite guys are gone and the same can be said about CB's. In the second round, I wouldn't have a problem drafting a player who is as good at what he does as Kendricks is.

I guess I can sum it up like this: I would rather the Cowboys take one of the top two RB's, a CB, or a DL at 27 if one they like is sitting there. I would also rather see a small trade up for an elite player at one of those positions, instead of taking a 43 LB at 27, which would almost be like settling IMO (although it surely wouldn't be). I also would rather see a small trade back into the very top of the second round if they want to get Kendricks. His value at the top of the second is so much better in my mind, and it would just sit better with me to add another pick if you go LB. I mean, I'm admittedly a little funny about 43 LB's in the first (I wouldn't have been thrilled with Shazier in the mid-first round last year), but that's just me.

Now the team could really like Kendricks a lot and not want to risk losing him in a trade back scenario, and that is understandable. Green Bay very well could take him at 30, and leave Dallas scrambling... but I really think the team would have someone else at 27 instead of a LB.

Thompson, I see as being not quite as desirable to the Cowboys, and he comes much closer to a third round prospect like you say than Kendricks does.. I definitely don't want to see Shaq at 27. If the team likes him at 60, then I'd be fine with that but he worries me a little even as a late second rounder.

 

[tm1119]

Someone kick the pet cat? LOL!

I have watched him play and I've looked at the numbers.

He's a reach if the Cowboys select him at #27.

And certainly there are folks that feel the same.

It was just an incredibly inaccurate post all around. But you can continue to act like you know what your're talking about. Whatever makes you feel better man.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It was just an incredibly inaccurate post all around. But you can continue to act like you know what your're talking about. Whatever makes you feel better man.

Wow!

You're really bitter.

What are you going to send Coyle for leaving him off his list all together? A horses' head?

 

[theogt]

Another source that doesn't rate Owamagbe Odighizuwa very high.

I'm OK with that.

I hope those mocks go away that have the Cowboys picking the guy at #27.

I get that you're not high on the guy because of his lack of elite production, but to rate Mario Edwards ahead of him? That's just non-sense.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I get that you're not high on the guy because of his lack of elite production, but to rate Mario Edwards ahead of him? That's just non-sense.

Hey, I'm not on ME Jr's bandwagon either.

He's very underwhelming IMO.

 

[theogt]

Hey, I'm not on ME Jr's bandwagon either.

He's very underwhelming IMO.

Yeah, I'm just pointing out that this is a pretty ridiculous list. If somehow OO fell to the mid-50s, I would be jumping up and down. He won't, though.

 

[tm1119]

Wow!

You're really bitter.

What are you going to send Coyle for leaving him off his list all together? A horses' head?

literally every part of the original post I quoted was wrong. I point that out and you call me bitter? Makes sense....just admit you have no clue what you're talking about and move on. It will be much easier

 

[MichaelWinicki]

literally every part of the original post I quoted was wrong. I point that out and you call me bitter? Makes sense....just admit you have no clue what you're talking about and move on. It will be much easier

Now you're just getting pompous.

Between his exploding hips and only 6 sacks I'm hoping the Cowboys do not take him at #27.

 

[Risen Star]

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Plankton]

Now you're just getting pompous.

Between his exploding hips and only 6 sacks I'm hoping the Cowboys do not take him at #27.

Not when there are corners available!!!!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Not when there are corners available!!!!

And like it or dislike, I think that's exactly what's going to happen.

I'm about 75% sure the Cowboys will end up drafting a corner at #27.

 

[Plankton]

And like it or dislike, I think that's exactly what's going to happen.

I'm about 75% sure the Cowboys will end up drafting a corner at #27.

Would not be a fan of that at all.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Would not be a fan of that at all.

A lot of folks won't be, but looking at how the draft is flowing from 20 on up... It certainly looks like a CB has a very good chance of being the BPA at #27.

At this juncture if they could trade down... I'd be for it.