Free and Leary not at the Dinner last night

khiladi

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Not me. If he did not want to be in Dallas, leave. I am sure the whole 2013 fiasco was a problem.

Good luck to you with the Commander line and may you cry a thousand tears, Bill.

We offered him to stay. He's there because of a friend, i.e. Gruden and he is the one that built this line. Our line was garbage before he got here. He's never had trouble building lines. Lines tend to fall apart when he leaves.
 

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When Murray took the Eagles money, there was an immediate and palpable reaction from the club. They were disappointed. Even prior to that, there was a brief courtship. None of that existed with Parnell.

Teams have been known to pretend to be upset about losing a fan favorite. The scuttlebutt on local sports talk radio is that the Cowboys made a deal with McFadden before Murray made his decision but they wanted to wait and make it appear to be Murray's decision.
 

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Just heard that on Ben and Skin.

Makes more sense now. I can't imagine them going to Jerrys house to try and talk this guy into playing in Dallas.


Also, just saying, I would feel a little betrayed by my teammates if I were Free and Leary.

One of them is packing his bags to go to the Vikings. Needs big coat it is cold up there.:lmao2:
 

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We offered him to stay. He's there because of a friend, i.e. Gruden and he is the one that built this line. Our line was garbage before he got here. He's never had trouble building lines. Lines tend to fall apart when he leaves.

He didn't build this Offensive line, he coached it. There are a lot of position coaches that could do real y well with 3 first round draft picks, but give the guy credit everywhere he has been he has been a great OL coach.
 

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Teams have been known to pretend to be upset about losing a fan favorite. The scuttlebutt on local sports talk radio is that the Cowboys made a deal with McFadden before Murray made his decision but they wanted to wait and make it appear to be Murray's decision.
So, help me understand.

They pretended to be upset about Murray, yet feigned indifference about Parnell?
 

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Free is still healing from his off-season surgeries,,won't practice until camp,,,and he is the old guy of the group.

This is business. If he doesn't understand that, he needs to grow up.
 

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lol
I love it when you say that.

My kids watch a lot of Spongebob cartoons. Doesn't make them animation experts.

It's called having an informed opinion. It does not guarantee the opinion to be right or wrong, just informed.

If you have an uninformed opinion then you have nothing to base your opinion on and it's just a waste of time. It would be like a restaurant critic writing a review of a restaurant where he had never dined. He might have friends that dined there, but he would be a fraud if he just used their opinion to write a review.

If someone studies game footage of a player then they have a possibility of having an opinion with some value.

If someone does not study game footage of a player then they have Zero possibility of having an opinion with some value.
 

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So, help me understand.

They pretended to be upset about Murray, yet feigned indifference about Parnell?

The average fan has no idea what position Jermey Parnell plays. They know Romo, Murry, Dez and a couple of others.
 

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We need all O-line on deck. Injuries are real and they do happen, so if you get beat out, be ready to go anyways.
 

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It is also not common place for people to develop unhealthy attractions for backup players and obsess over them to the point that they view the all-22 with a box of tissues handy.

I am pretty certain if the organization valued Parnell as much as you do, he would be extended. You can down Free all you want, but in the grand scene of things, they prefer him to Parnell and always have.

I've said this before, but the issue is not really about Parnell per se. It is about players like him where fans use some whacky fan logic to form very strong but completely uninformed opinions. If the media or someone is not telling them that a player is good, then they can't conceive of it themselves. In fan logic if a player has been on a team for a certain amount of time without starting, then he must be terrible despite the fact that a player like Parnell took a completely different path than 99%+ of NFL players. There are a lot of other fan logic issues that people use to form very strong opinions without ever really getting the facts or putting in the effort into watch game footage or whatever it takes to have an informed opinion.

The sad part is a lot of fan logic is based on something some media guy says like Broaddus who we know is wrong often. It's the same type of logic that had some people claiming the La'el Collins had bad character.

It seems like you would get as tired as I do of people arguing a point despite being completely uninformed. Booze....
 

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Free commands this line and has done alot by taking pay cuts and what not for this team. He may not be the best but he gets the job done should be our starting right tackle for that alone.
 

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Free has ben told to take paycuts and everyone is constantly on the lookout for his replacement here. I think he has to have some thick skin or he would have already folded up shop by now.

With Leary being so young, I can understand if he was salty because of this. At the same time, it's professional football. It's meant to be competitive. And Collins is making peanuts from an NFL standpoint, so it's not as if his contract forces him into the starting lineup. If you're Leary, you go out there and try to win the battle and keep the starting job.

It has also been stated that be relishes the role of mentor and has been the first to go to the young guys we have brought in and help them. He will be here as a coach the moment he retires. I have no doubt.
 

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I've said this before, but the issue is not really about Parnell per se. It is about players like him where fans use some whacky fan logic to form very strong but completely uninformed opinions. If the media or someone is not telling them that a player is good, then they can't conceive of it themselves. In fan logic if a player has been on a team for a certain amount of time without starting, then he must be terrible despite the fact that a player like Parnell took a completely different path than 99%+ of NFL players. There are a lot of other fan logic issues that people use to form very strong opinions without ever really getting the facts or putting in the effort into watch game footage or whatever it takes to have an informed opinion.

The sad part is a lot of fan logic is based on something some media guy says like Broaddus who we know is wrong often. It's the same type of logic that had some people claiming the La'el Collins had bad character.

It seems like you would get as tired as I do of people arguing a point despite being completely uninformed. Booze....

But the point is clear and obvious that everyone is making and you are ignoring. Free beat out Parnell EVERY YEAR they were both on the team. Case closed. End of story. Free would have been the starter again this year unless Parnell beat him out, which has, to this point, NEVER happened in history.
 

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Maybe they were out of town or had a prior engagement. But hey, this is the internet so let's have a conspiracy.
 

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Romo looks like he was more excited for dinner than recruiting La'El.
 
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