Free and Leary not at the Dinner last night

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And the Oakland Raiders signed Larry Brown to a five-year, $12-million contract with $3.5 million guaranteed back in the day.

They were into Super Bowl MVPs. They also paid Desmond Howard right after he won the award.
 

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He has to out play Leary. I still remember Leary doing a good job against JJ Watt

Talent evaluators do not look at just how well you did against this player or that player, they look at mistakes, what kind of mistakes, good plays and what kind of good plays. Player evaluation looks at players that play within their ability if your average player is a straight line they do nothing remarkable and do not screw up remarkably. Ideally in a game an avg palyer will swing from +1 to -1 averaging out at 0 at the end of the game or slightly above. A good player would saw swing from +2 to -1 you want that player to avg out at 1+, a great player lets say fluctuates from +3 to -1 with an avg at +2. These are hypothetical. A bad player would be the inverse and a player that may be enigma is one that swings from great plays +3 but then has very bad plays -3. The enigma player shows he is talented but for whatever reason also makes a lot of bad plays. Teams would rather go with an avg guy that does not really make a lot of good plays or a lot of bad plays though not as talented but much more predictable and easier to gameplan to cover weakness or flaws
 

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We bring in a great young offensive prospect, and now two players we were praising a week ago are expendable.

Collins won't beat out Free, I'm not even going to discuss that. Anyone who thinks Collins will just walk in and take the job from Leary is out of their mind, that's going to be a battle and I'm not entirely sure Collins will win before the season starts. The best part about this is that we can afford to have Collins on the bench and develop him while still having one of the best lines in the league on the field.

We're in a good position here.
 

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But the point is clear and obvious that everyone is making and you are ignoring. Free beat out Parnell EVERY YEAR they were both on the team. Case closed. End of story. Free would have been the starter again this year unless Parnell beat him out, which has, to this point, NEVER happened in history.

Yes, it did happen in the mind of Bill Callahan, the OLine coach. He was going to bench Free and start Parnell back in 2012, but Garrett refused to bench Free. Jerry got involved and the compromise was for them to rotate series in the final 4 games that year.

Conservative Head Coaches rarely replace a veteran with an inexperienced player, unless the inexperienced player is overwhelmingly better. The inexperienced player can never become overwhelmingly better by just practicing. They have to play in real games.

Parnell got paid over 2x as much as Free in both total contract and guaranteed money, period End of Story.
 

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Yes, it did happen in the mind of Bill Callahan, the OLine coach. He was going to bench Free and start Parnell back in 2012, but Garrett refused to bench Free. Jerry got involved and the compromise was for them to rotate series in the final 4 games that year.

Conservative Head Coaches rarely replace a veteran with an inexperienced player, unless the inexperienced player is overwhelmingly better. The inexperienced player can never become overwhelmingly better by just practicing. They have to play in real games.

Parnell got paid over 2x as much as Free in both total contract and guaranteed money, period End of Story.


That picture pisses me off in the sense that you see space to the right and you just know he probably cut into those guys laying on the ground right in front of him.
 

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He didn't build this Offensive line, he coached it. There are a lot of position coaches that could do real y well with 3 first round draft picks, but give the guy credit everywhere he has been he has been a great OL coach.

It just happened coincidentally that we started to draft quality OL when Callahan came... Sure

Wrong... He built it.. He was the guy that pushed for Frederik when we had Sharif on the board.

He worked him out and had the ties with Nebraska. Leary was brought here the very first year Callahan was here as an Unrestricted Free Agent, under a brand new offensive philosophy solely dictated by his schemes and style of play.

Before Callahan got here we were running a power-blocking scheme with big, hefty lineman and couldn't draft OL worth a grain of salt.

Our first pick the year Callahan got here was Claiborne. There is a reason the very next year, JJ looked to elevate Callahan to OC and removed Garrett from the equation. Only when Callahan put his stamp on this offense did we start drafting OL. You think he wasn't working out the OL we picked?

Even with Zach Martin, we had three defensive linemen ahead of him on the board, all taken. These were OL that fit Callahan's mold, nobody else's on here.

Callahan's track record speaks for itself. It's the very reason why the Reskins drafted OL as soon as he stepped foot in that organization.
 
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That picture pisses me off in the sense that you see space to the right and you just know he probably cut into those guys laying on the ground right in front of him.

Actually, that's the play where the go ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter was scored. He ran over Sherman for the touchdown.
 

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Actually, it was Tyron Smith, the Beard, Zach Martin, Tony Romo, and Jason Witten. So the stars of the offense. A better question would be WHERE WAS DEZ? WHY WASN'T HE INVITED?
 

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I really wish he would've just swallowed his pride and stayed here.

What an idiot. He could've potentially been coaching one of the best OL's the NFL has seen.

I am glad he left. If you will remember , he coached the line that produce record low rushing totals. He hand picked Livings and Berny. The line improved when Callahan became the play caller and Pollack came in to coach the line. Why did he deserve any pleasure from coaching this talent ?
 

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Free has ben told to take paycuts and everyone is constantly on the lookout for his replacement here. I think he has to have some thick skin or he would have already folded up shop by now.

With Leary being so young, I can understand if he was salty because of this. At the same time, it's professional football. It's meant to be competitive. And Collins is making peanuts from an NFL standpoint, so it's not as if his contract forces him into the starting lineup. If you're Leary, you go out there and try to win the battle and keep the starting job.

Couldn't have said it better myself
 

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Romo and Garrett not at the breakfast......whats going on here?
 
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