***Frustration Thread.***

[keds]

Pro football in my biased opinion is the most fun and exciting sport to watch but is it becoming less fun and exciting for the players who play it?

I wonder if today's post season demands are too much physically for players? Should they get more time to let their bodies heal from the pounding of an NFL season?

Troy Vincent mentioned that players should be given more time to develop themselves outside of the game. I find it hard to believe that NFL players don't have enough personal time in the offseason to do things like travel and spend time with their families. The average Joe get about 2-3 weeks of vacation per year, certainly much less than an NFL player.

Are NFL players spoiled or is it fair to expect more from them when they pull in such big salaries?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Pro football in my biased opinion is the most fun and exciting sport to watch but is it becoming less fun and exciting for the players who play it?

I wonder if today's post season demands are too much physically for players? Should they get more time to let their bodies heal from the pounding of an NFL season?

Troy Vincent mentioned that players should be given more time to develop themselves outside of the game. I find it hard to believe that NFL players don't have enough personal time in the offseason to do things like travel and spend time with their families. The average Joe get about 2-3 weeks of vacation per year, certainly much less than an NFL player.

Are NFL players spoiled or is it fair to expect more from them when they pull in such big salaries?

It's a chicken and egg thing. With escalating salaries the "world" is going to demand more from the players. You can't have one without the other.

Are they spoiled?

I don't think there is any question that most do not have a firm grip of reality as it exists for the average person.

 

[Tio]

Football players jobs are no harder than an average person job. They are asked to workout and become physical specimen and use their body every half year. Most people get paid less for more work, and retire much later than others...

 

[MapleLeaf]

the job description is already laid out in advance a player just has to control his time management.

There is an unusual and irregular schedule, but it doesn't mean that a person lives 24/7 in his uniform. Many others before Vincent have been successful at managing the schedule, I don't see the reason why players of 2004 can't be also.

I think you do have to drop the nonsense of thinking that night clubs and late night outings are part of a NFL lifestyle. If anyone should be in bed early to help the body recover it should be an NFL player.

 

[Sarge]

Pro football in my biased opinion is the most fun and exciting sport to watch but is it becoming less fun and exciting for the players who play it?

I wonder if today's post season demands are too much physically for players? Should they get more time to let their bodies heal from the pounding of an NFL season?

Troy Vincent mentioned that players should be given more time to develop themselves outside of the game. I find it hard to believe that NFL players don't have enough personal time in the offseason to do things like travel and spend time with their families. The average Joe get about 2-3 weeks of vacation per year, certainly much less than an NFL player.

Are NFL players spoiled or is it fair to expect more from them when they pull in such big salaries?

Well, I think 16 weeks is too much frankly. I think the players would have been better served if the schedule remained at 14 games.

I also think they can make the preseason MUCH shorter. By the time these guys get started, some teams have 5 games under their belt already.

However, that doesn't serve the NFL better.

It's all about $.

No question these players take a beating. From training camp in August right through to the end of January/February, if a team is lucky enough, these players just abuse themslves.

Tough sport.

 

[keds]

My hope in all this is that the NFL makes it so that the rules allow the game to be played by skilled, athletic football players and not by lesser-skilled weightroom types who are long on muscle but short on football instincts and passion for the game. Making players bigger and stronger with year round weight programs won't necessarily make the game better.

I used to like hockey years ago when it was a game of passing and playmaking by not-so-muscular but gutsy, unselfish players. When the clutch and grab, and dump the puck and chase it mentality set in I lost interest in the sport totally.

I want to see an NFL where small guys with heart, like a Pat Tillman, can still play the game. Do we want football to be a league of passionate, gutsy, gritty players like Tillman or selfish, muscle-bound types like David Boston.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Pro football in my biased opinion is the most fun and exciting sport to watch but is it becoming less fun and exciting for the players who play it?

I wonder if today's post season demands are too much physically for players? Should they get more time to let their bodies heal from the pounding of an NFL season?

Troy Vincent mentioned that players should be given more time to develop themselves outside of the game. I find it hard to believe that NFL players don't have enough personal time in the offseason to do things like travel and spend time with their families. The average Joe get about 2-3 weeks of vacation per year, certainly much less than an NFL player.

Are NFL players spoiled or is it fair to expect more from them when they pull in such big salaries?

Any time comparisons are made with the"average Joe", it's always with a sense of "how lucky players are". It is we fans who have made cultural icons out of pro athletes, set them up as demi gods and treat them as both super and sub human. Super human because we expect fantastic feats of physical prowess from them and subhuman because we don't expect them to show much in the way of human emotion, including pain.

We're the ones who have decided a man or woman serving in the military should be living near poverty level, and that fire fighters who risk their lives for us make a very small fraction of what pro athletes do. And then we turn around and resent them for what they make. Look at the women they get, the bling bling, the life. Yeah, because our value system puts a higher premium on entertainment than on service to country and community.

I think the Players "Union" is a joke. It is failing the members badly. In the past, players were paid so low they had to have off season jobs, but they could get away from the pressure a good six months of the year. Today, the pressure is constant, a pressure we help to put on them with our football addiction. But they're well paid, so that's ok. Crack.

I'm just surprised more pro athetes aren't complete basket cases.

I'm off my soapbox now, but the real problem, if there is one, is probably US, not "spoiled players"'.

 

[Doomsday101]

Pro football in my biased opinion is the most fun and exciting sport to watch but is it becoming less fun and exciting for the players who play it?

I wonder if today's post season demands are too much physically for players? Should they get more time to let their bodies heal from the pounding of an NFL season?

Troy Vincent mentioned that players should be given more time to develop themselves outside of the game. I find it hard to believe that NFL players don't have enough personal time in the offseason to do things like travel and spend time with their families. The average Joe get about 2-3 weeks of vacation per year, certainly much less than an NFL player.

Are NFL players spoiled or is it fair to expect more from them when they pull in such big salaries?

Are you kidding? These guys are being paid a boat load of money to play a game and unlike the early years of the NFL these guys don't have to go out and get a real job when the season is over. As far as being able to travel most players do a lot of traveling during the off-season and many have so much time on their hands they find time to get in trouble with the law at every turn. Sorry but listening to a Professional athlete complain about something like this all I can say is I would trade places any day of the week if I had that ability. In my world FA mean your unemployeed, I have no agent going into my bosses office cutting me a deal and I sure as heck can't make the mistakes these guys do and keep my job.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't think there is any question that most do not have a firm grip of reality as it exists for the average person.

Are we still talking about football players or did we start talking about politicians???

 

[big dog cowboy]

Well, I think 16 weeks is too much frankly. I think the players would have been better served if the schedule remained at 14 games.

I also think they can make the preseason MUCH shorter. By the time these guys get started, some teams have 5 games under their belt already.

I agree they could/should make preseason 2 or 3 games tops. But a 16 game season over 17 weeks is not to long. I work over 2500 hours every year easily and I don't carry one like some of the lunatics in the NFL because I am "overworked" so to speak.

 

[Sarge]

I agree they could/should make preseason 2 or 3 games tops. But a 16 game season over 17 weeks is not to long. I work over 2500 hours every year easily and I don't carry one like some of the lunatics in the NFL because I am "overworked" so to speak.

I don't know what you do for a living but the hours put in, is not all what I am referring to.

It's the punishment.

These guys beat on each other daily, I mean punish each other, from August to January. That's half the year beating the **** out of yourself.

It's not like you play on Sunday and rest up for next Sunday.

The season is simply too long IMO/FWIW of course.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't know what you do for a living but the hours put in, is not all what I am referring to.

It's the punishment.

These guys beat on each other daily, I mean punish each other, from August to January. That's half the year beating the **** out of yourself.

It's not like you play on Sunday and rest up for next Sunday.

The season is simply too long IMO/FWIW of course.

My job isn't all that physically demanding thank goodness. But these guys are paid much much much more than me to put up with that punishment.

 

[cowboys#1]

ruined my turkeyday!!!!another game we should have won!!!

 

[Cbz40]

Post all frustrations Here

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Great thread topic.

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[CowboysNumeroUno]

I just hate losing like this

 

[theogt]

I hate kickers.

 

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MISSED HENRY...he would have been a GREAT ADDITION!

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[CanadianCowboysFan]

Maybe some day we will get a kicker that can make routine kicks.

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

hey.......tnew had a great game




yea a very frustrating loss

go Seahawks!!!!!!!!!!!!go Seahawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!