Future of Flozell

Hiero

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one of the top tackles in the league, my question is about his injury.
How bad was it, and is he expected to be back at 100%? Will he ever be the same, or will he be flo at 90% for the rest of his career? How is the rehab going?
Either way I would love to get a tackle opposite him in the first two rds of teh draft.
 

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I don't think it was anything out of the ordinary. Most guys to come back 100% from knee injuries (these days)... so unless we hear otherwise, I'd expect him to be just fine when he comes back.
 

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Flo was reported to be doing very well -- walking normally - some folks rely on their ACLs less than others and Flo may be one of those guys -- recall he didn't have the normal ACL tear symptoms and was walking after the game. I know there was an NHL player a while back (Yzerman maybe) who, it was discovered, had no ACL -- apparently he tore it years back and it was never diagnosed.

Flo is starting for us next year -- now maybe if we land a super-stud LT in the draft, Flo might move over to the right. But he'll be a starter and we'll be better for it.
 

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It's painful rehab but they can make a 100% recovery. An OT friend of mine actually snapped his in half and returned to full form.
 

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his future is protecting bledsoe's back at LT
 

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What about drafting an impact LT, then moving flozell inside to left guard, you can then have Larry Allen possibly move to RT, or backup LG and RG, got to remember Larry will be 34 next year, and so will Marco Riveria, then you add in that Flozell will be 31, we will need a young stud offensive lineman. You can still have Petti play RT, and improve overtime, not sure about Peterman, he hasnt played all year long.
 

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I dont see the point in drafting an LT to move him to right. How bout draft a RT and keep everything else the same...except center
 

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the good part of flo's injury was it was early enough in the year that he has plaenty of rehab time. who knows he may get in better shape thru rehab for his knee.with his contract at 5 mil a year i expect him to be back and to redo his deal as soon as the cba is done.flo is much better than most here give him credit for
 

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Flozell Adams tore his ACL. I just went through this injury myself. Normally 2-4 weeks after the injury (whenever the swelling subsides) you go into surgery. The surgery is a complete reconstruction of the Anterior Cruciate Ligament, which cannot heal even partially on its own (thus the complete reconstruction). Rehab begins immediately after surgery with a continous motion device (designed to restore minimal extension and flexion). For the first month the patient is generally not weight bearing and only simple, non-weight bearing exercises are allowed. After that rehab is generally ratcheted up in intensity untill complicated, explosive movements are being allowed. Genearally, after 6 months the patient is allowed to return to sports activities (i.e. cutting, jumping, pivoting, etc.). However, it is usually the case that the patient does not experience similar strength and explosion (because of latent stability issues) in his operated leg untill a full 18 months after surgery is performed.
 

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cowboyjoe said:
What about drafting an impact LT, then moving flozell inside to left guard, you can then have Larry Allen possibly move to RT, or backup LG and RG, got to remember Larry will be 34 next year, and so will Marco Riveria, then you add in that Flozell will be 31, we will need a young stud offensive lineman. You can still have Petti play RT, and improve overtime, not sure about Peterman, he hasnt played all year long.
Larry can't be a tackle anymore. He doesn't have the quickness he once had.
 

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like a dog said:
Flozell Adams tore his ACL. I just went through this injury myself. Normally 2-4 weeks after the injury (whenever the swelling subsides) you go into surgery. The surgery is a complete reconstruction of the Anterior Cruciate Ligament, which cannot heal even partially on its own (thus the complete reconstruction). Rehab begins immediately after surgery with a continous motion device (designed to restore minimal extension and flexion). For the first month the patient is generally not weight bearing and only simple, non-weight bearing exercises are allowed. After that rehab is generally ratcheted up in intensity untill complicated, explosive movements are being allowed. Genearally, after 6 months the patient is allowed to return to sports activities (i.e. cutting, jumping, pivoting, etc.). However, it is usually the case that the patient does not experience similar strength and explosion (because of latent stability issues) in his operated leg untill a full 18 months after surgery is performed.

But, with all respect to Like a Dog (and well wishes for your recovery). The average patient is a) not an elite athelete, b) has far worse rehab facilities, and c) has much less time devote to recovery. The timeline speeds up for guys like Flo.
 

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abersonc said:
But, with all respect to Like a Dog (and well wishes for your recovery). The average patient is a) not an elite athelete, b) has far worse rehab facilities, and c) has much less time devote to recovery. The timeline speeds up for guys like Flo.

I actually think 18 months is about right until he recovers to where was before. But I also think that sort of thing is most apparent and more important in mostly "skill" positions.
 

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I tore my ACL up pretty good 12 years ago. 42 YO now and I still play basketball. Of course, I am not a big boy like flo. And remember Galloway? I think he's finally at full speed, but I think he "relies on his ACL" quite a bit...hah-hah.

Anyway...yes...with the right doctor and some hard work, Flo will be back.
 

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Future 585 said:
I dont see the point in drafting an LT to move him to right. How bout draft a RT and keep everything else the same...except center

I think that's the correct approach. Flo is a known quantity and a rookie is a rookie.

The call for a Left Tackle is as much for the near future. Flo's foot speed has never been all that good and it doesn't get better with age. I think the desire for drafting a Lefty is:

(1) for an easy transition in a couple years when Flo can't play left tackle nearly as well, and

(2) from a belief that it's Flo's natural and best position. I think Flo is a very good Left Tackle but has the ability to be a completely dominant Righty in every phase.

Draft a Left Tackle. Play him at Right. Play him at Guard. Make him the Waterboy. Don't care. Just need to fix the line and don't want to waste a pick on "only" a Right Tackle. In my eyes, only Left Tackles are for the first round.
 

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larry doesnt have enough quickness to play either tackle spot. Flozell is wasted at Guard he is LT all the way or RT at worst.
 

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Hiero said:
one of the top tackles in the league, my question is about his injury.
How bad was it, and is he expected to be back at 100%? Will he ever be the same, or will he be flo at 90% for the rest of his career? How is the rehab going?
Either way I would love to get a tackle opposite him in the first two rds of teh draft.

It's no problem to get A tackle opposite Flozell. The problem lies in getting a good OT, and the next question is, how long before the OT is good enough to be solid at RT.

What convinces you that Pettiti is unable to adquately fill the RT spot? That he was a 7th round pick? That's not enough. That Strahan beat him? That's not enough, either.

I would love for us to pick one guy that is an instant success at RT, but there aren't many, not even in the first round of the draft, that could do that. If we find one, I'm all for it!
 

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This is a really good year for tackles in the draft. If we have a chance at a top RT I definitely wouldnt pass it up.
Rob isn't bad, but I think if we have a chance at a special player its bpa + need plus Petitti is a good backup and fillin for injuries and maybe be flozell's backup because I'm not really likin Tucker.

If we don't get a tackle , then I hope we at least get a good FA center or get a good guard or two in the draft. Because the interior OL needs to be addressed, and we need to have a new starter at center next year.

Center and guard are also issues but you dont have to draft them as high.
 

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I had acl surgery using a hamstring tendon..had it in may and was playing softball full speed next Feb.....rehab is a ***** but like in the previous post
you wake up with the machine bending your leg and was off cutches in less than a week....
 
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Doesn't Flo have some sort of hearing loss in his left ear making it nearly impossible for him to play RT? I thought I remember that from draft day years ago.
 
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