Fuzzy Thoughts on a Baker's Dozen CBs

[stilltheguru88]

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draft2016bigboard.php

They did have a whole bunch of suspect rankings. They rank them by what they feel whereas nfldraftscout seems to go more by consensus plus they are very much so tied into the scouting community.

draftscout may have a big board on the CBS site but each player on their main site has their overall ranking listed on his listing. Their top 10 right now is

Garrett
Thomas
Allen
Lattimore
Adams
Hooker
Howard
Barnett
Foster
Cook

I think not having fournette top 10 is pretty silly. And lattimore 4 is crazy too. We'll see what the boards look like right before the draft

 

[Shake_Tiller]

I have followed the draft for almost 40 years -- used to follow it much more closely and was better informed. Professional responsibilities get in the way these days. It is one of the strangest drafts in my memory -- maybe the strangest. It is considered an extremely strong draft, but from about 15-60 opinions are all over the board. These kinds of differences usually occur in a weak draft. This year it's more about the depth of the draft. I have probably read "won't get out of the top 10" about at least 15 players. I have read "won't get out of the first round" about close to 50 guys. Obviously some players will go lower than expected. My guess is a corner or two or three -- Adoree, for instance -- will fall to 60. Some teams will understand that with the depth at CB they can afford to wait.

One would expect the few good OL to be over-drafted because teams will fear leaving the draft without one. I think a couple of LBs might get over-drafted. Looks a little thin in the later rounds. The top QBs will be over-drafted, but that always happens these days. The DTs might get over-drafted.

Thanks for the great rundown on all the corners. I will be very surprised if one of these guys doesn't become a Cowboy. But I won't be shocked if Dallas waits until the third round to pick one. It's a really interesting draft, and its strengths -- or perceived strengths -- favor Dallas. The Cowboys' main vulnerability is at ROT if they aren't sold on Green and don't want to move Collins. That could cause them to force a pick. If they can avoid that, I can't see why they can't come away with three starting defensive players -- if not as rookies, soon in their careers.

 

[dogunwo]

I wouldn't hate the pick. He is extremely well developed and would be ready to help our zone scheme right away.

I don't think he will last that long, homer vision aside, but how do you feel about Tankersley at 60?

 

[HookEmCowboys]

I don't think he will last that long, homer vision aside, but how do you feel about Tankersley at 60?

Flag machine imo. Would be a nice addition but needs to tighten up that technique in the worst way.

 

[dogunwo]

Flag machine imo. Would be a nice addition but needs to tighten up that technique in the worst way.

That's the same thing said pre-draft about Anthony Brown. If he gets drafted that high by anyone, hopefully he has a comparable rookie year.

 

[HookEmCowboys]

That's the same thing said pre-draft about Anthony Brown. If he gets drafted that high by anyone, hopefully he has a comparable rookie year.

Comparable to who? Brown was a 6th round selection and definitely overplayed his "value" for where he was taken. If Tank goes round 2 you'd expect that sort of year or better imo.

 

[RS12]

Adoree Jackson will get picked higher than most think on special teams ability alone. He is better at that than coverage IMO. Would not surprise me if he went before 28.

 

[Sydla]

No need to be annoyed. It's just a different opinion. It's so boring when everyone agrees.

NFLdraftscout has him at 64. I trust them more than any other source when it comes to ranking. They update them constantly.

I saw big receivers push off at the top of routes like they allow in football the world over and get separation. The Washington receiver did it quite a bit. Ross also juked him so hard off the ball he fell down and gave up a long TD.

If he is not a finished product then his upside is projection thus the term project; I don't mean anything more than that although I can see why you would dispute a different interpretation.

His footwork off the snap in press coverage is a glaring issue that showed up every game I watched. His jam needs work too. If he doesn't clean that up then the Alshon Jeffries and OBJ's of the NFCE are going to eat him up. It is what it is.

The footwork comment is interesting as I've seen it made before. He thinks he can just run with players off the snap so when in press coverage he doesn't really jam well. He thinks his athleticism will just make up for everything else. I've referenced this in the past, but he struggled in the ND game two years ago against Fuller. He got eaten up by Fuller in that game. One play he got called for a pass interference because he tried to press Fuller at the line, let him get a clean release and Fuller just burned him down the field.

I would not be a fan of him at 28 but honestly, we need CBs. So while not a fan, I could stomach him at 28 I guess.

 

[Sydla]

Adoree Jackson will get picked higher than most think on special teams ability alone. He is better at that than coverage IMO. Would not surprise me if he went before 28.

Not so sure about that. In a draft deep at CB, I don't think a team in the teens or early 20s is going to grab a guy that might be better at returning kicks than actually doing his primary job which would be playing CB.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't think he will last that long, homer vision aside, but how do you feel about Tankersley at 60?

I see him, Conley, Jackson, and Awuzie all as good second round options. Any one of the three would help right away.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think not having fournette top 10 is pretty silly. And lattimore 4 is crazy too. We'll see what the boards look like right before the draft

Fournette doesn't have wiggle, doesn't run routes, and is an uninspiring pass protector. This the NFL, not the SEC he is being drafted for and very few teams run the ball even half the time.

I understand completely why he is devalued.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

what about Kazee from SD State, I think. The Cowboys staff supposedly ran his pro day workout today.........

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

what about Kazee from SD State, I think. The Cowboys staff supposedly ran his pro day workout today.........

I'll go through the next 13 later.