FWST Blog: Crayton had no agenda

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I am really beginning to hate these bigmouth divas.

Especially when they do not have the talent worth it.
 

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Crayton will forever go down as the player that altered the teams destiny.


He makes that last second catch vs Giants and EVERYTHING is different.
But he didnt. (Remember the movie, Live Free or Die Hard - "thats what make you that guy" - Crayton AINT that guy.)

Yes. I truly believe that.



We are currently on the wrong side of destiny and it stinks.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2711863 said:
I have absolutely NO issue with this. First of all he didn't bring up Romo out of thin air. All he did was quote the owner on the move being made to make the offense more Romo friendly.

If people want to be pissed off at someone for making this about helping Tony, or the offense, then they need to be pissed off at the owner who publically stated that the release of Owens was in part to make the offense more Romo friendly. That obviously indicates Romo and since Garrett is the OC immediately means it's suppose to make his life easier as well.

All Crayton did was say that now the offense doesn't have anymore excuses, or scapegoats, because the owner made it clear they made this move to fix the offenses issues.

Yeah I have no issue with this one.
:hammer:


I smell an agenda, but it doesn't belong to Patrick Crayton.
 

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I wrote about this in my blog before Crayton's statements. While I'm disappointed in Garrett's coaching and Romo's play this year and think it's stupid to let Owens go, there is a silver lining, IMO. What probably disappointed me most in Garrett is that he often passed the buck when the offense failed. Not only with Owens, but in the week 4 game against the Skins where we only ran Marion Barber and only did that on 8 occasions, Garrett point blank blamed Romo for that. Then later on when Romo questioned some of the protection schemes in a post game presser, Garrett let Romo know that it was his fault.

Call me crazy, but when you're a leader I always believe that 'even when it's not really your fault, it's still your fault.' Garrett didn't subscribe to that theory last year and in the end Owens wound up being the scapegoat.

So at least now from my perspective we can see if Garrett was right. If he's not and the offense spudders, then he really has no excuses and hopefully Jerry will see that and send him his walking papers. Although judging from history Garrett will blame Romo and Jerry will keep Garrett around.





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Yakuza Rich;2711970 said:
I wrote about this in my blog before Crayton's statements. While I'm disappointed in Garrett's coaching and Romo's play this year and think it's stupid to let Owens go, there is a silver lining, IMO. What probably disappointed me most in Garrett is that he often passed the buck when the offense failed. Not only with Owens, but in the week 4 game against the Skins where we only ran Marion Barber and only did that on 8 occasions, Garrett point blank blamed Romo for that. Then later on when Romo questioned some of the protection schemes in a post game presser, Garrett let Romo know that it was his fault.

Call me crazy, but when you're a leader I always believe that 'even when it's not really your fault, it's still your fault.' Garrett didn't subscribe to that theory last year and in the end Owens wound up being the scapegoat.

So at least now from my perspective we can see if Garrett was right. If he's not and the offense spudders, then he really has no excuses and hopefully Jerry will see that and send him his walking papers. Although judging from history Garrett will blame Romo and Jerry will keep Garrett around.





YAKUZA

Hmm. this is all pretty interesting. So once again your analogy is "I confess, He did it"

Here is what I find amusing, the fact that garrett keeps getting called out and romo. Here is the actual post game show interview with Jason Garrett after the Commanders game in week 4, You tell me if this is a guy passing the buck. It isnt to me, it is a guy accepting responibility to run more and also accepting that it is in part on him and he needs to get better and demand better play.

I also find it completely amusing, that at the exact same time garrett is accepting blame and deflecting critiscm of individual players, One room over at nearly the exact time, Buffalo Bill is holding court and blaming everything on Jason Garrett and Tony Romo and then demanding the ball more.

Here is the interview. So uh, please spare us all this garrett passed the buck nonsense.
[youtube]uXlUCdYNdJ8[/youtube]
 

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Yeah, I didn't take his explanation as blaming Romo. He was just saying that Romo was checking out of runs like he was instructed to when there were too many people in the box (or whatever the trigger was).

That game did show that he needed to revamp his system, though. And as critical of RJ as I've been before, I do think he will adjust this year. I still wish Reeves were here, though.
 

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There is definitely an agenda here, and the agenda is the hatred some on here have for Patrick Crayton. Everything that Crayton said is 100% correct, and is what alot on here have been saying and what Jerry Jones said.

Crayton is correct, there are NO MORE EXCUSES. All the guys who have been used as excuses (right or wrong) are gone. And no where does he say that Romo and Garrett have to step up. No, quite the contrary, he specifically says: "It's all on us that are here to get the job done."

As for saying that the offense is more Garrett and Romo friendly, what is new? Just about everyone on this board has stated that. The OWNER/GM of the franchise has stated that. And also who else would you expect him to name? He didn't name Romo and Garrett because of a feud against them, he named them because they are the two LEADERS of the offense. Garrett is the offensive coordinator, he is the one in charge of the offense. And like it or not, as long as Romo is the Cowboys starting QB, the offense will always start and end with Romo.

Will we get away from the games were we run the ball 8 times and throw it 45+, yeah I am sure that we will. But, don't fool yourself into thinking that Marion Barber is now going to be the guy that makes the Cowboy offense go (like Emmitt Smith was the guy that made the Cowboy offense go in the early 90's). Dallas will still be an offense that revolves around Tony Romo. Otherwise Jerry wouldn't have said that they were making the offense more Romo friendly.
 

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links18;2711395 said:
Where did this guy go to journalism school?

It doesn't matter what school he went to. Some people will just never get it right.
 

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theebs;2712093 said:
Hmm. this is all pretty interesting. So once again your analogy is "I confess, He did it"

Here is what I find amusing, the fact that garrett keeps getting called out and romo. Here is the actual post game show interview with Jason Garrett after the Commanders game in week 4, You tell me if this is a guy passing the buck. It isnt to me, it is a guy accepting responibility to run more and also accepting that it is in part on him and he needs to get better and demand better play.

I also find it completely amusing, that at the exact same time garrett is accepting blame and deflecting critiscm of individual players, One room over at nearly the exact time, Buffalo Bill is holding court and blaming everything on Jason Garrett and Tony Romo and then demanding the ball more.

Here is the interview. So uh, please spare us all this garrett passed the buck nonsense.
[youtube]uXlUCdYNdJ8[/youtube]

Awesome find, theebs. Ouch, Yakuza.
 

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theebs;2712093 said:
Hmm. this is all pretty interesting. So once again your analogy is "I confess, He did it"

Here is what I find amusing, the fact that garrett keeps getting called out and romo. Here is the actual post game show interview with Jason Garrett after the Commanders game in week 4, You tell me if this is a guy passing the buck. It isnt to me, it is a guy accepting responibility to run more and also accepting that it is in part on him and he needs to get better and demand better play.

I also find it completely amusing, that at the exact same time garrett is accepting blame and deflecting critiscm of individual players, One room over at nearly the exact time, Buffalo Bill is holding court and blaming everything on Jason Garrett and Tony Romo and then demanding the ball more.

Here is the interview. So uh, please spare us all this garrett passed the buck nonsense.
[youtube]uXlUCdYNdJ8[/youtube]

Well, I listened to that interview, and I think he does pass the buck some. He mentioned that the "game dictated" that they couldn't be as balanced on offense and Romo did a good job of managing that. That they would have liked to have been more balanced on offense but the 'Skins played great man to man defense. He also blamed "execution" multiple times, even going so far as to say that the coaches are responsible for putting the players in position, but at the same time, it is their job to execute. So, I'm not so sure that he is taking more blame than necessary.

BTW, do you have a link to the video of TO blaming everything on Garrett and Romo?
 

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SultanOfSix;2712268 said:
Well, I listened to that interview, and I think he does pass the buck some. He mentioned that the "game dictated" that we couldn't be as balanced on offense and Romo did a good job of managing that. That they would have liked to have been more balanced on offense but the 'Skins played great man to man defense. He also blamed "execution" multiple times, even going so far as to say that the coaches are responsible for putting the players in position, but at the same time, it is their job to execute. So, I'm not so sure that he is taking more blame than necessary.

BTW, do you have a link to the video of TO blaming everything on Garrett and Romo?

When he says the 'game dictated,' he's talking about execution. They dared us to beat them with the pass, and we didn't do it. But an OC saying his unit didn't execute well isn't passing the buck. There's no rational way of interpreting that video as Garrett blaming anybody, much less the players.
 

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YoMick;2711901 said:
Crayton will forever go down as the player that altered the teams destiny.


He makes that last second catch vs Giants and EVERYTHING is different

Agreed, not sure if soft Wade could have beaten Belichick, but at least we make it to the show. Thing is, he flat gave up on that route.

For what it's worth, it looks like Crayton sort of stumbled into this one, I'm sure that it wasn't his intention to cause anymore issues, but unfortunately it is his MO to say stupid things. Usually he is needlessly pumping up the other team, here he needlessly brought the attention back to his rift with Tony + Jason. I'd love to see him replaced by Austin and potentially Hurd.
 

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Idgit;2712278 said:
When he says the 'game dictated,' he's talking about execution. They dared us to beat them with the pass, and we didn't do it. But an OC saying his unit didn't execute well isn't passing the buck. There's no rational way of interpreting that video as Garrett blaming anybody, much less the players.

Well, no coach is going to go out there and say, well it was Romo's and the wide receiver's fault that we couldn't get the job done. That's just silly. "Passing the buck" simply means passing the responsibility onto someone else. It doesn't have any sense of "all" the blame. And that is what was done. There was nothing special in that interview that told me anything about Garrett either way.
 

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BTW, do you have a link to the video of TO blaming everything on Garrett and Romo?

NO sorry sultan, I didnt record any of the national media stuff all year. I am sure it is on utube or nfl.com though. That interview was the beginning of what sunk our battleship and I cant imagine its hard to find.
 

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SultanOfSix;2712293 said:
Well, no coach is going to go out there and say, well it was Romo's and the wide receiver's fault that we couldn't get the job done. That's just silly. "Passing the buck" simply means passing the responsibility onto someone else. It doesn't have any sense of "all" the blame. And that is what was done. There was nothing special in that interview that told me anything about Garrett either way.


So in your opinion he didnt accept his part of the blame in that video?

I think it is clear he did. Whether or not that means anything I dont know, but I know he didnt blame someone else, like the guy in the other room did.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2712377 said:

Damn you, CL.

God, that interview is annoying. And it wasn't from right after the WAS loss. It came out later in the season, after our biggest win of the year. He sits there in an interview with Deion Freaking Sanders claiming he's just keeping quiet about the fact that he's not getting the ball enough and his OC hasn't made adjustments to get him the ball. In what universe is that quiet?

And Sanders sitting there all the time nodding his head like a cone-head Bill Cosby. Putz.
 

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Idgit;2712418 said:
Damn you, CL.
:D

I love watching this because it makes me so happy he's gone now.

SMCowboy said:
I have to ask how he can say that we didn't get him the ball, he was the 10th most targeted WR in football last year. How many balls does he want to come his way?
Because he's out of touch with reality.

Or to put it in simpler terms... He's an idiot.
 
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