FWST Blog: Roy Williams (11) takes turn at ripping Garrett's offense

[Doomsday101]

The opposing defense seemed to know what Garrett was calling, so how could our own offense not know what was being called...

Vaild point. :laugh2: Hey the 90's team did not fool anyone, hell I knew what we were running as did the opponet but knowing and stopping them was 2 different things. That team executed, yes coaching is important but it is also important for players to go out and execute their jobs.

 

[DallasEast]

Vaild point. :laugh2: Hey the 90's team did not fool anyone, hell I knew what we were running as did the opponet but knowing and stopping them was 2 different things. That team executed, yes coaching is important but it is also important for players to go out and execute their jobs.

 

[Stash]

TO was not dropping passes before? Fasano got more playing time in Miami I would expect his number were better than in Dallas. Bennett was not having problems; Choice and Jones were not having problems.

Owens is a Pro Bowl caliber player headed for the Hall of Fame. He was a Pro Bowler before he ever came to Dallas. His abilities and credentials are beyond questioning. Garrett's never done anything at the NFL level as a player or coach. But he gets the kid gloves treatment by some people due to nostalgia. Fasano was 'not good enough' to play in Dallas, funny how he suddenly can when he leaves?

I think Garrett has to do a better job but the players also hold big responsibility this is not high school this is the pros and they should damn well know how to read a playbook and understand the routs they run.

As I've said, there's plenty of blame to go around - for everybody. But Garrett gets no free pass for the poor job he did.

I know the staff is not telling them hey line up in the wrong spot or hey if you don't feel like running the slant all the way just pull up. Regardless of what you may think of Garrett to throw all of this on him is not realistic

I never said I was throwing all of it on him - not one time. But I don't hold him blameless either - not by a longshot.

If some guy in over his head kept telling me to run straight into double-coverage all day, I'd have a problem with it too.

 

[MWILL]

Roy Williams was on the Randy Galloway show today.

You guys need to check out what he said.

 

[TNCowboy]

This shows the difference between a class guy and a guy you don't want on your team.

Jason Witten - who knows the team went 9-7 and has major problems - did nothing but say that the team would work out its problems and praise his coaches and teammates.

On the other hand, Roy Williams rips his coaches and makes excuses for his lousy performance.

This team is a mess.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

:laugh2: at the thought of TO consistenly running slants. He's all aligator arms when he goes over the middle. His tolerance for getting hit is very low.

Peep his history. He's made a living off of running slants! And last I checked, he wasn't the only WR we have on the roster. Roy, Crayton, and even Witten could ALL have been used more effectively last season...

 

[Doomsday101]

Owens is a Pro Bowl caliber player headed for the Hall of Fame. He was a Pro Bowler before he ever came to Dallas. His abilities and credentials are beyond questioning. Garrett's never done anything at the NFL level as a player or coach. But he gets the kid gloves treatment by some people due to nostalgia. Fasano was 'not good enough' to play in Dallas, funny how he suddenly can when he leaves?



As I've said, there's plenty of blame to go around - for everybody. But Garrett gets no free pass for the poor job he did.



I never said I was throwing all of it on him - not one time. But I don't hold him blameless either - not by a longshot.

If some guy in over his head kept telling me to run straight into double-coverage all day, I'd have a problem with it too.

I said Garrett has to improve as well and I have not given him a free pass but I don't see coaches throwing TO or other players under the bus and yes there are ample examples of where they could. I'm also not opposed to TO returning to the team and while you are correct he has potential HOF waiting for him he is also a player who 2 other teams got to a point they were not willing to put up with his BS regardless of his ability that says a lot when a team would rather ditch a quality player than to tolerate his act.

As for Fasano he did good but lets don't get carried away he had 34 catches as a starter while Bennett had 20 coming off the bench behind a Pro Bowl TE in Witten

 

[MWILL]

Peep his history. He's made a living off of running slants! And last I checked, he wasn't the only WR we have on the roster. Roy, Crayton, and even Witten could ALL have been used more effectively last season...

The fact Garrett can't figure that out worries me.

 

[Concord]

What the frick is with our players?!!

Can they not just shut the frick up already?!

 

[khiladi]

Vaild point. :laugh2: Hey the 90's team did not fool anyone, hell I knew what we were running as did the opponet but knowing and stopping them was 2 different things. That team executed, yes coaching is important but it is also important for players to go out and execute their jobs.

No, that team ran effective play-action, unlike our team. You use play-action often to fool a defense and keep them on their toes and Emmit made safeties bite. We don't make anyone bite, and play-action isn't in Garrett's vocabulary, except for maybe a couple times, when this team is in obvious passing situations anyways. Norv Turner was better than anyone in keeping a healthy balance for the offense. The idea that it was simple doesn't mean that it was predictable. The slant to Harper in the 92 championship game is a proof of this.

And further, that team had an effective running game as well, and even when it wasn't working, they stuck with it, because they knew they could wear the opposing defense out.

 

[Concord]

This shows the difference between a class guy and a guy you don't want on your team.

Jason Witten - who knows the team went 9-7 and has major problems - did nothing but say that the team would work out its problems and praise his coaches and teammates.

On the other hand, Roy Williams rips his coaches and makes excuses for his lousy performance.

This team is a mess.

It most certainly is.

 

[khiladi]

Owens is a Pro Bowl caliber player headed for the Hall of Fame. He was a Pro Bowler before he ever came to Dallas. His abilities and credentials are beyond questioning. Garrett's never done anything at the NFL level as a player or coach. But he gets the kid gloves treatment by some people due to nostalgia. Fasano was 'not good enough' to play in Dallas, funny how he suddenly can when he leaves?

That is the funny thing. We have two Pro-Bowl WRs, one a potential HoF, and here we are, saying they don't know how to practice or play WR, and Garrett, whose coaching credentials are simply coaching the likes of Joey Harrington in Miami is the one who knows how to do everything right...

It is pretty ironic, isn't it?

 

[khiladi]

See avatar name.

Poor Baby... More and more, his boy Garrett is getting trashed by everybody... denial...

 

[Doomsday101]

No, that team ran effective play-action, unlike our team. You use play-action often to fool and offense and Emmit made safeties bite. Norv Turner was better than anyone in keeping a healthy balance for the offense. The idea that it was simple doesn't mean that it was predictable. The slant to Harper in the 92 championship game is a proof of this.

And further, that team had an effective running game as well, and even when it wasn't working, they stuck with it, because they knew they could wear the opposing defense out.

The 90's team was not fooling anyone most knew what to expect out of Dallas. I do agree Dallas had a great running game not just effective I saw 11 play drives where Emmitt touched the ball 10 out of the 11 times and teams knew what was coming and could do nothing about it and yes that made play action work much better when teams were getting their nosed bloody by Smith and the running game.

I agree Garrett has to be more balanced in his offense but to do so guys have to stop jumping offside and committing stupid fouls, it is hard to be balanced when you looking at 2nd or 3rd and long because you just shot yourself in the foot with some dumb penalty.

 

[khiladi]

The one thing I love is all the people supporting Garrett were saying how we didn't need TO anymore with the coming of Roy Williams.. And here we are, at the end of the season, and Williams is slamming Garrett...

Now they are saying Roy Williams is a mal-content.

The funny thing is, these same Garrett supporters, always try and keep Tony Romo and his criticism's of Garrett out of it, as if it never happened... Because the franchise QB is the foundation of this franchise, more so than TO or RW... If you label Romo a malcontent, than you have pretty muched lost, because he isn't a WR that can be easily influenced by the propaganda of TO... He is also a good old fashioned American boy...

 

[wileedog]

That is the funny thing. We have two Pro-Bowl WRs, one a potential HoF, and here we are, saying they don't know how to practice or play WR, and Garrett, whose coaching credentials are simply coaching the likes of Joey Harrington in Miami is the one who knows how to do everything right...

It is pretty ironic, isn't it?

"Everything is Garrett's fault!" is no more valid than "Everything is TO's fault!"

I agree with you, I think Garrett did a terrible job.

I also think TO and his WR Posse handled it and are handling it in the worst way possible. I don't care if the play calls for TO to moonwalk to the sideline then dance the hokey pokey, for $9M/yr that's what you do.

If the offense is getting completely figured out, or if the DB's aren't falling for the hokey pokey, its the Head Coach's responsibility to tell the OC to fix it. That's what film is for. The fact that Wade did nothing either is also a huge point of blame.

This team is a mess - blaming it on one coach or one player is pointless, its a cooperative effort fail.

 

[khiladi]

The 90's team was not fooling anyone most knew what to expect out of Dallas. I do agree Dallas had a great running game not just effective I saw 11 play drives where Emmitt touched the ball 10 out of the 11 times and teams knew what was coming and could do nothing about it and yes that made play action work much better when teams were getting their nosed bloody by Smith and the running game.

I agree Garrett has to be more balanced in his offense but to do so guys have to stop jumping offside and committing stupid fouls, it is hard to be balanced when you looking at 2nd or 3rd and long because you just shot yourself in the foot with some dumb penalty.

BS... When you balance your offense, you make it unpredictable. You run play-action, because you make the offense second guess whether your going to pass or run. We were the best play-action team in the business in the nineties. As far as running, your right and I even admitted that, but that was because we used out running game consistently and never went away from it. We also took advanatge of the size of our OL, moving them forward. Garrett doesn't do that. And the reason he doesn't do that is because he is one-dimensional, trying to go downfield all the time.

If you look at game logs, we are normally in 3rd and long situations, because Garrett goes vertical instead of trying to manage the field. He is one of the worst in the business at it, because he tries to take big chunks of the field all the time.

 

[khiladi]

"Everything is Garrett's fault!" is no more valid than "Everything is TO's fault!"

I agree with you, I think Garrett did a terrible job.

I also think TO and his WR Posse handled it and are handling it in the worst way possible. I don't care if the play calls for TO to moonwalk to the sideline then dance the hokey pokey, for $9M/yr that's what you do.

If the offense is getting completely figured out, or if the DB's aren't falling for the hokey pokey, its the Head Coach's responsibility to tell the OC to fix it. That's what film is for. The fact that Wade did nothing either is also a huge point of blame.

This team is a mess - blaming it on one coach or one player is pointless, its a copperative effort fail.

Actually, blaming Garrett is more valid than blaming TO, considering TOs and RWs track record of performance and everybody coming out and blaming the coach, inclduing Tony Romo. While the WRs have their problems, which I admit, you solve the majority of it by getting rid of Garrett...

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Theres simply too many people that want the ball on offense and only ONE football!! Witten.Owens,RW,Crayton,Miles and the three headed monster all need to touch the ball! It's virtually impossible for everyone to get their full potential of plays for them to get into a groove and have chemistry. Releasing Owens makes RW's value sky rocket and he will finally reach his full potential with this team. Owens compresses that. Witten,RW,Miles and three solid RB's are more than enough to ball on offense. We got Felix who is a homerun threat everytime he gets the ball!! he needs 10-15 touches a game alone!!

 

[MWILL]

Check out WWW.ESPN1033.COM Roy Williams was on the Galloway Show today.

Who cares what comes from Washington?

A WR is actually talking to Galloway (and we know how Grandpa Urine is) sounds more interesting.