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More like your comparison was total crap.Judas;2773478 said:I agree, we should never EVER draft a QB in the 1st round again. We're on the same page buddy.
More like your comparison was total crap.Judas;2773478 said:I agree, we should never EVER draft a QB in the 1st round again. We're on the same page buddy.
Boyzmamacita;2772963 said::laugh2: I smell a 10-page thread a coming.
ABQCOWBOY;2773563 said:Half way there.
Alexander;2772988 said:I thought marijuana only made you paranoid, not delusional. I learned something new today.
Judas;2773330 said:You're happy with not winning play off games and Super Bowls? You must have just started being a fan.
WoodysGirl;2773499 said:I know you don't, which is why I asked.
Oh well...
Thank you.Chocolate Lab;2773084 said:
Biggest. Idiot. In history!
But the best part of that vid was seeing the snippets of the grievance with the Parcells interview. He admits he thought that Quincy was "in the tank" and didn't respond well to competition even in 2003. He even admits he almost cut The Q before training camp started the next year. This totally validates what Hos said about how Bill intended for Vinny to start the whole time.
Of course, Quinthy didn't even bother to read the transcript of his own case.
What a disaster area he was. And some of you wonder why some of us are optimistic about this team. Those years were what it's like to be really hopeless.
Hostile;2773649 said:Did this moron actually say he is better than Tony Romo? Without a doubt, this is the dumbest man that gets a microphone stuck in his face and people give credence to his blather. The IFL has as much talent as the NFL except over a long haul? Judas Priest. Your brain cells are all dead Q.
Thank you Bill Parcells. I feel vindicated on my claims that I knew he was going to be released as early as March.
One more time, he was NOT waived because of a failed drug test. That had NOTHING to do with his waiver.
Yeagermeister;2772990 said:It also makes you hungry :laugh2:
Alexander;2772988 said:I thought marijuana only made you paranoid, not delusional. I learned something new today.
No sir. Here is the Q saga from his benching to his waiver.BraveHeartFan;2773653 said:It didn't? I honestly didn't know this. I've always been under the impression that he was released because of his failed drug test.
Hostile;2773683 said:No sir. Here is the Q saga from his benching to his waiver.
Quincy had a chronic need to visit Jerry Jones for reassurance. The guy panicked about competition and even tried to racially divide the locker room against Hutch. He was called down by Darren Woodson and Emmitt Smith.
Before the 2003 game against Arizona he was struggling in practice with the routes and reads in Bruce Coslet's Offense. He mentioned it to Joey Galloway and Galloway started cutting off routes so Q could complete the passes.
Then in the film session Coslet got pissed because the plays were not being run the way he had them drawn up. Quincy threw Galloway under the bus. Several guys had to keep Joey from killing him after he did that. He said, "I can't afford the criticism, you can." That is a direct quote.
So in the Arizona game Galloway and the other receivers ran the routes as drawn up, not the way they had practiced and Q was all over the place bad. His worst game ever. In the huddle he basically called them traitors. On the way back to the sidelines in that game there was footage of Emmitt Smith yelling at Q and as he neared the sidelines Jerry and Q got into it.
The first time I shared this story I added this line to it. If you go back and look at where the WRs are and how much YAC they could have gained if the ball had been delivered where Coslet designed it, he could have had one of his best games. Please go back and look if you have that game and can stomach it.
After that game Woodson and Emmitt went to Campo and Coslet and said the team would be better off if Q was benched because he had lost the team. Hutch was brought in and no matter how bad he was, he was never pulled.
Q got the message and he started trying to fix his own image. When Parcells arrived Q was given a clean slate and he performed for Parcells and the man liked him, but he could not trust him.
Then they made the trade for Drew Henson and Q immediately demanded a meeting with Jerry. What was his role here? Why were they undercutting him? All that kind of jazz. It pissed Parcells off. I mean it royally pissed him off.
In March of that year the Cowboys began targeting either Kurt Warner or Vinny Testaverde. I knew as early as March of that year that Q was going to be cut. He had one chance, shine in Training Camp. He didn't and that was why he was cut.
The Dallas Cowboys have worked around positive drug tests before. Why did one test by one guy mean this kind of consipiracy crap? That's just it, it didn't.
I am not guessing about this stuff. Some of the info I have shared with you is directly from players who were in that locker room. Quincy was gone as soon as Vinny was signed. I wish we had signed Kurt Warner but I can't have everything.
No, it isn't. He failed a test, but if he was as clean as a virgin he still was going to be released. The failed test is incidental.goshan;2773722 said:Hos, I think your story is close to accurate
But the official press release did cite a failed drug test as one of three reasons he was released.
Saying it had nothing to do with it is twisting the facts.
WoodysGirl;2772960 said:Still troubled Quincy Carter opens up, says Jerry Jones made billionaire power play
Former Cowboys quarterback Quincy Carter says the Cowboys lied about why they released him, admitting he failed a drug test and said it wasnt because of poor performance. He also said if he didn't have a problem with drugs no one would have ever heard of Tony Romo.
Carter, who was recently arrested in Abilene, plays for the Abilene Rough Riders of the Indoor Football League.
Carter opened up to dfwreporting.com senior reporter Kimberly Torres in the following video.
http://dfwreporting.com/2009/05/11/test1/
http://dfwreporting.com/2009/05/11/test/
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Hey, Quincy! What are you smoking now?!
Especially after it was Bill who gave him the clean slate after his 2002 mutiny.Big Country;2773750 said:WOW! I can imagine how pissed a hands on coach like BP would have been when QBag went over his head to ask Jerry his role on the team... that's divisive as hell...
Very interesting story Hos!! thanks for that