FWST: No comment on T.O. from Stephen Jones
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Im so sick of this .....every day...enough..just cut the cord.
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5Countem5;2629121 said:
Almost as sad as you discounting a report because it does not play into your agenda.
I saw on the news tonight that a women was killed in a car accident not too far from my house. But it was reported by the media so i guess it cant be true.
Only the things we read on the internet message boards we should believe.
Get real.
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I don't know how you can consider yourself a journalist when you take someone's "no comment" and make it an affirmative?
This guy is a disgrace to the profession.
The best part is that T.O. hasn't really said or done anything since the season ended (as has been the case just about every off season for him) and people still won't stop talking about the guy.
This guy is a disgrace to the profession.
The best part is that T.O. hasn't really said or done anything since the season ended (as has been the case just about every off season for him) and people still won't stop talking about the guy.
cowboyjoe
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what gripes me about this, jerry jones had players over to his house to discuss T O, reported via yahoo sports, that unnamed sources told yahoo sports
and now we have unnamed sources are saying that some T O has an issue with his team mates in the huddle, etc from the pro bowl
just bugs me to heck, unnamed sources are saying this
if i was jerry jones or i was the owner, i would find out whose the unnamed sources are right quick and i would deal with them
i would call the whole team in next week, along with the coaches and have it out, what goes on in the locker room, in huddles, etc, stays with the team
any person that says otherwise wont be on the team very long, and like jimmy johnson said once, he will see that those players wont play in the nfl with no team, and jimmy johnson pretty well did that
i would nip this in the bud and nip it quick, and stop all of this distractions by unnamed sources
and now we have unnamed sources are saying that some T O has an issue with his team mates in the huddle, etc from the pro bowl
just bugs me to heck, unnamed sources are saying this
if i was jerry jones or i was the owner, i would find out whose the unnamed sources are right quick and i would deal with them
i would call the whole team in next week, along with the coaches and have it out, what goes on in the locker room, in huddles, etc, stays with the team
any person that says otherwise wont be on the team very long, and like jimmy johnson said once, he will see that those players wont play in the nfl with no team, and jimmy johnson pretty well did that
i would nip this in the bud and nip it quick, and stop all of this distractions by unnamed sources
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could be 5count
im watching Final Score now, waiting to see if the interview with romo that babe laufenberg said he did is coming on,
im recording it too, if on the correct channel, so i can give you all a recap if you want one later, if its on final score tonight
im watching Final Score now, waiting to see if the interview with romo that babe laufenberg said he did is coming on,
im recording it too, if on the correct channel, so i can give you all a recap if you want one later, if its on final score tonight
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Owens isn't the player he has been in the past. His play declined significantly in 2008. The Packers and Commanders gave the blue-print for shutting him down or playing him with success. The 49ers didn't get the memo. Nate Clements played way off and let Owens get started. The 49ers gave him a career day, because they are dumb, I guess. The formula that Jimmy Johnson talked about was on tape.
Jimmy Johnson, the former two time Super Bowl winning coach in Dallas, gave his opinion on Terrell Owens' lack of a 100 yard game through week 11.
According to Johnson, cornerbacks were physical with Owens and jammed him quickly. This quick, physical jam disrupted Owens' route and allowed the corner to get in a good chase position. According to Johnson, Owens couldn't run away from the defenders. Johnson agreed that Shawn Springs put on a clinic against him. Johnson went on to say that teams used to mix up coverages against Owens (man under, 2 deep; man under, one deep). However, in 2008, teams were following the blue-print and not letting him run free.
Howie Long, another Super Bowl winning analyst, gave this quote on Owens. It gives a very telling reason for his declining output for the 2008 season. When combined with Johnson's break down of how teams played Owens, in 2008, by jamming him quickly, you can understand why Owens averaged
65.8 YPG in 2008 and saw his YPA go from the 9.0 range to the 7.0 range.
"The thing about T.O. is that he's not a stop-and-start guy. He's a receiver who needs momentum. Once he hits 10 yards or 15 yards, that's when he is really at his best. Whenever, he is forced to restart again, he just can't seem to do it".
Howie Long (Fox Sports Analyst)
I went back and looked at some of Owens' biggest plays of the season and his game log, and Long's and Johnson's comments appear to hit the bulls-eye.
72 yard TD against Lito Sheppard:
Sheppard was playing way off. Owens got a free release, ran by Shepard and had a free run at a safety biting on another route.
35 yard TD in Cleveland:
Owens, in a tight formation, gets a free realease and runs through a zone.
Charles Woodson dogs Owens all night and gets physical at the line. Owens finishes with a 2-17-0 night. Owens abuses another physical corner, Al Harris, in 2007. Both games are played in Jason Garrett's passing offense. Garrett called the plays.
Shawn Springs and the Commanders see what Woodson did, and Springs and the other Commanders cornerbacks, including Carlos Rodgers, hold Owens to a 7-71-1 game. Owens has the ball directed or thrown to him 19 times. After the game, he complains about the "lack of opportunities". Marion Barber gets 8 carries. Felix Jones, on a roll coming into the game, gets 0.
The Bengals, without cornerbacks the caliber of Woodson or Springs hold Owens to a 2-67-1 day. Owens catches 2 passes. He scores a 57 yard TD when the Bengals played way off and gave him a free release. The free release allowed Owens to get cranked up and going full steam ahead. The play is run from a tight formation. Garrett uses the tight formation to help Owens out some.
The Cardinals hold Owens to a 4-36-0 day. His longest catch is 10 yards.
I will leave out the three games with Brad Johnson. Owens didn't have any big games and wasn't a big factor, but I will will not "count them". Johnson plays very poorly.
At Washington, Owens has a 5-38-0 night. Again, the Commanders handle him. Owens catches a 25 yarder.
After the game, Owens complains in a Deion Sanders interview that Jason Garrett's system is the problem and not his play. This public attack comes after the biggest win in the Cowboys' season. He doesn't mention that he had a monster game against Shawn Springs last year in Texas Stadium, under the same offensive coordinator and averaged 9.4 YPA in Garrett's offense in 2007, one of his best seasons, ever.
Mike Singletary vacations in la la land and lets Nate Clements play 7-10 yards off Owens. He plays tough guy and ignores the blue-print. Owens has a career day (7-213-1). Owens catches a 75 yard TD. Owens doesn't complain about Garrett's system after the game, after the other team let him get his momentum going down hill all day. What was Nate Clements thinking, too?
Owens has a 5-98-1 TD game on Thanksgiving. He catches a 33 yarder. Owens has some success beating Seattle's best corner and getting some separation.
December comes and the defenses get tough, and they are not stupid like the 49ers.
Pittsburgh hold Owens to a 3-32-1 day.
The Giants hold Owens to a 3-38-0 day. Thanks to Patrick Crayton breaking free late, Romo hits him for a crucial TD.
The Ravens hold Owens to a 5-63-1 game. Owens breaks free deep in the game, but Romo misses him.
Owens put up a 6-103-0 game against the Eagles. Jason Witten throws him his longest pass, a 42 yarder. The play comes after the play breaks down and Romo gets the ball to Witten on the outside.
Owens finishes the season with two 100 yard games and averages 65.8 YPG. Owens best game comes when S.F. plays 7-10 yards off of him. He has a career day during a poor season. The Commanders and Giants handle him easliy. The Eagles give up the Lito Sheppard play and the Witten 42 yarder on a bust.
Early K.C. Joyner returns (*8 games) say that Owens has a 2.0 YPA against Joyner's 'red' cornerbacks. That lags behind Patrick Crayton's 2.8 YPA against them in 2007. That is one reason Roy Williams was brought in. In 2007, Owens put up a 9.3 YPA against Joyner's 'red' corners. He did it in Jason Garrett's passing system, and Garrett called the plays . That drop off is off the table. By looking at the game log, I don't see that stat getting much help.
Owens has become a fly pattern WR or deep bomb WR. If he can't run away from you, you can stop him or shut him down.
When you combine his declining output and play with his "drama' off the field, the choice should be obvious. The team has plenty of weapons to compete. The franchise's is worth about 1.5 billion dollars; furthermore, Owens is on a path to ruin it and your franchise quarterback, who is worth $ 43 million himself.
It's not the media. It's not hate. It's not all Jason Garret's fault. It's reality.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8792294/FOX-NFL-Sunday-Roundtable:-Week-11
Jimmy Johnson, the former two time Super Bowl winning coach in Dallas, gave his opinion on Terrell Owens' lack of a 100 yard game through week 11.
According to Johnson, cornerbacks were physical with Owens and jammed him quickly. This quick, physical jam disrupted Owens' route and allowed the corner to get in a good chase position. According to Johnson, Owens couldn't run away from the defenders. Johnson agreed that Shawn Springs put on a clinic against him. Johnson went on to say that teams used to mix up coverages against Owens (man under, 2 deep; man under, one deep). However, in 2008, teams were following the blue-print and not letting him run free.
Howie Long, another Super Bowl winning analyst, gave this quote on Owens. It gives a very telling reason for his declining output for the 2008 season. When combined with Johnson's break down of how teams played Owens, in 2008, by jamming him quickly, you can understand why Owens averaged
65.8 YPG in 2008 and saw his YPA go from the 9.0 range to the 7.0 range.
"The thing about T.O. is that he's not a stop-and-start guy. He's a receiver who needs momentum. Once he hits 10 yards or 15 yards, that's when he is really at his best. Whenever, he is forced to restart again, he just can't seem to do it".
Howie Long (Fox Sports Analyst)
I went back and looked at some of Owens' biggest plays of the season and his game log, and Long's and Johnson's comments appear to hit the bulls-eye.
72 yard TD against Lito Sheppard:
Sheppard was playing way off. Owens got a free release, ran by Shepard and had a free run at a safety biting on another route.
35 yard TD in Cleveland:
Owens, in a tight formation, gets a free realease and runs through a zone.
Charles Woodson dogs Owens all night and gets physical at the line. Owens finishes with a 2-17-0 night. Owens abuses another physical corner, Al Harris, in 2007. Both games are played in Jason Garrett's passing offense. Garrett called the plays.
Shawn Springs and the Commanders see what Woodson did, and Springs and the other Commanders cornerbacks, including Carlos Rodgers, hold Owens to a 7-71-1 game. Owens has the ball directed or thrown to him 19 times. After the game, he complains about the "lack of opportunities". Marion Barber gets 8 carries. Felix Jones, on a roll coming into the game, gets 0.
The Bengals, without cornerbacks the caliber of Woodson or Springs hold Owens to a 2-67-1 day. Owens catches 2 passes. He scores a 57 yard TD when the Bengals played way off and gave him a free release. The free release allowed Owens to get cranked up and going full steam ahead. The play is run from a tight formation. Garrett uses the tight formation to help Owens out some.
The Cardinals hold Owens to a 4-36-0 day. His longest catch is 10 yards.
I will leave out the three games with Brad Johnson. Owens didn't have any big games and wasn't a big factor, but I will will not "count them". Johnson plays very poorly.
At Washington, Owens has a 5-38-0 night. Again, the Commanders handle him. Owens catches a 25 yarder.
After the game, Owens complains in a Deion Sanders interview that Jason Garrett's system is the problem and not his play. This public attack comes after the biggest win in the Cowboys' season. He doesn't mention that he had a monster game against Shawn Springs last year in Texas Stadium, under the same offensive coordinator and averaged 9.4 YPA in Garrett's offense in 2007, one of his best seasons, ever.
Mike Singletary vacations in la la land and lets Nate Clements play 7-10 yards off Owens. He plays tough guy and ignores the blue-print. Owens has a career day (7-213-1). Owens catches a 75 yard TD. Owens doesn't complain about Garrett's system after the game, after the other team let him get his momentum going down hill all day. What was Nate Clements thinking, too?
Owens has a 5-98-1 TD game on Thanksgiving. He catches a 33 yarder. Owens has some success beating Seattle's best corner and getting some separation.
December comes and the defenses get tough, and they are not stupid like the 49ers.
Pittsburgh hold Owens to a 3-32-1 day.
The Giants hold Owens to a 3-38-0 day. Thanks to Patrick Crayton breaking free late, Romo hits him for a crucial TD.
The Ravens hold Owens to a 5-63-1 game. Owens breaks free deep in the game, but Romo misses him.
Owens put up a 6-103-0 game against the Eagles. Jason Witten throws him his longest pass, a 42 yarder. The play comes after the play breaks down and Romo gets the ball to Witten on the outside.
Owens finishes the season with two 100 yard games and averages 65.8 YPG. Owens best game comes when S.F. plays 7-10 yards off of him. He has a career day during a poor season. The Commanders and Giants handle him easliy. The Eagles give up the Lito Sheppard play and the Witten 42 yarder on a bust.
Early K.C. Joyner returns (*8 games) say that Owens has a 2.0 YPA against Joyner's 'red' cornerbacks. That lags behind Patrick Crayton's 2.8 YPA against them in 2007. That is one reason Roy Williams was brought in. In 2007, Owens put up a 9.3 YPA against Joyner's 'red' corners. He did it in Jason Garrett's passing system, and Garrett called the plays . That drop off is off the table. By looking at the game log, I don't see that stat getting much help.
Owens has become a fly pattern WR or deep bomb WR. If he can't run away from you, you can stop him or shut him down.
When you combine his declining output and play with his "drama' off the field, the choice should be obvious. The team has plenty of weapons to compete. The franchise's is worth about 1.5 billion dollars; furthermore, Owens is on a path to ruin it and your franchise quarterback, who is worth $ 43 million himself.
It's not the media. It's not hate. It's not all Jason Garret's fault. It's reality.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8792294/FOX-NFL-Sunday-Roundtable:-Week-11