FWST: Phillips takes high road with critics but points out he has won more than BP

[LittleBoyBlue]

Actually, he gets too much. He inherited a back to back Super Bowl championship team, that was still relatively young, and basically an entire coaching staff. He was what Jerry said, any one of 500 coaches who could win with that team. Trouble is, even with that team he just made it to one Super Bowl and then two years later ended up 6-10.

Just the first of Jerry's terrible decisions following the departure of Jimmy.

That "one of 500 coaches..." almost didnt happen.

Thank you Larry Brown.

 

[dbair1967]

can you really lay the offensive players we've stockpiled on Wade's feet?

Honestly I dont know, I figure Parcells had alot more personnel say than Wade does, although Wade may have more than many think.

That wasnt my point though, its that this isnt just "Parcells' team" as some think. There's been quite a bit of turnover since he left.

Parcells was a great coach with the Giants. After that, not so much.

 

[dbair1967]

In other words, almost all of the most important players on the team were acquired under Parcells, and little has been added since (or before) other than role players.

So? I've said Parcells deserves a ton of credit for rebuildign the roster and rebuilding the front office.

But I'm also consistent in my belief that Parcells the COACH was average at best here. The fact that he's never been more than JAG when Mr Belichick wasnt on his staff is further proof.

I think he was a great coach with the Giants, but after that nothing more than average to maybe above average.

 

[dbair1967]

That "one of 500 coaches..." almost didnt happen.

Thank you Larry Brown.

I dont know why people keep acting like this is the only reason we won.

The Stealers never led in that game. They "held" our offense to 3 tds and 2 fg's. They had the ball a ton of that game, but in 49 pass attempts totaled only 239 passing yds. They didnt have a single play over 20 yds in that game (we had 4). Not one of their WR's averaged 10 yds a catch. For the game they averaged less than 4.0 yds per PLAY. We had more sacks than they did. They fumbled twice (and fortunately for them recovered both) and we picked off ODonnell 3 times.

If not for 3 or 4 really screwy decisions by the refs, the game wouldnt have been close.

 

[zrinkill]

I dont know why people keep acting like this is the only reason we won.

The Stealers never led in that game. They "held" our offense to 3 tds and 2 fg's. They had the ball a ton of that game, but in 49 pass attempts totaled only 239 passing yds. They didnt have a single play over 20 yds in that game (we had 4). Not one of their WR's averaged 10 yds a catch. For the game they averaged less than 4.0 yds per PLAY. We had more sacks than they did. They fumbled twice (and fortunately for them recovered both) and we picked off ODonnell 3 times.

If not for 3 or 4 really screwy decisions by the refs, the game wouldnt have been close.

Thank you ..... that game was never really that close.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I dont know why people keep acting like this is the only reason we won.

The Stealers never led in that game. They "held" our offense to 3 tds and 2 fg's. They had the ball a ton of that game, but in 49 pass attempts totaled only 239 passing yds. They didnt have a single play over 20 yds in that game (we had 4). Not one of their WR's averaged 10 yds a catch. For the game they averaged less than 4.0 yds per PLAY. We had more sacks than they did. They fumbled twice (and fortunately for them recovered both) and we picked off ODonnell 3 times.

If not for 3 or 4 really screwy decisions by the refs, the game wouldnt have been close.

Oh those Stealers and their screwy Super Bowl calls. Fortunately, that time it didn't help them.

 

[dbair1967]

Oh those Stealers and their screwy Super Bowl calls. Fortunately, that time it didn't help them.

If instant replay would have been around, I think that would have fixed one of them. (the spot on that 3rd down play before hafltime, where the officials moved the ball up a good yard or yard and a half)

One of the really awful non calls was the Stealer DB (might have been Rod Woodson) just running over Kevin Williams on a bomb. It probably would have been a TD. Amazingly, no call.

 

[TNCowboy]

So? I've said Parcells deserves a ton of credit for rebuildign the roster and rebuilding the front office.

But I'm also consistent in my belief that Parcells the COACH was average at best here. The fact that he's never been more than JAG when Mr Belichick wasnt on his staff is further proof.

I think he was a great coach with the Giants, but after that nothing more than average to maybe above average.

I don't think Parcells was lazy or burned out. I think he just couldn't relate to players any longer.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't think Parcells was lazy or burned out. I think he just couldn't relate to players any longer.

At past locations he had to leave due to health and the toll the job takes.

 

[YosemiteSam]

"I take pride in that we won a lot of games," Phillips said. "People don't realize how hard it is to win games. They do if they look at the previous four years and the years before that. We won 34 games in three years. Bill (Parcells) won 34 in four years and previous one before that won 34 in six or eight. That's the only thing. I just don't think people realize how hard it is to win."

Classless comment. Bill Parcells took over a perpetual 5-11 team with a couple of talented players. When Wade got it, it was already loaded with great talent. (Parcells brought in Ware, Witten, Newman, James, Romo, Gurode, Ratliff, Colombo, Koiser, Barber, etc)

If anything, the fact that it took Wade three years with all that talent (and more!) to win a single playoff game (and then get routed AGAIN) is a testament to the fact that he should shut the **** up about what Parcells did vs what he did.

 

[FightingIrishman]

Classless comment. Bill Parcells took over a perpetual 5-11 team with a couple of talented players. When Wade got it, it was already loaded with great talent.

If anything, the fact that it took Wade three years with all that talent (and more!) to win a single playoff game (and then get routed AGAIN) is a testament to the fact that he should shut the **** up about what Parcells did vs what he did.

Wade spews that kind of verbal diarrhea all the time. His pressers the last three years are classics. It isn't anything new. He did the same thing in Denver and Buffalo.

 

[JBond]

"I don't think you guys realize how hard it is to win....*sniffle, sniffle*" ok, Teddy Ruxspin, we'll take it easy on you.

This is a poor attempt by Wade to razzle-dazzle everyone with his regular season statistics in order to deflect from the fact that he hasn't done what he was brought here to do.

:violin: :horse:
With the exception of 5 seasons, using your criteria everyone that has coached the Cowboys is a huge failure. What if we kicked Landry or Johnson to the curb after their horrendous starts? I think you have forgotten how bad the Campo era was. You need to get some perspective.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Classless comment. Bill Parcells took over a perpetual 5-11 team with a couple of talented players. When Wade got it, it was already loaded with great talent. (Parcells brought in Ware, Witten, Newman, James, Romo, Gurode, Ratliff, Colombo, Koiser, Barber, etc)

If anything, the fact that it took Wade three years with all that talent (and more!) to win a single playoff game (and then get routed AGAIN) is a testament to the fact that he should shut the **** up about what Parcells did vs what he did.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I dont know why people keep acting like this is the only reason we won.

The Stealers never led in that game. They "held" our offense to 3 tds and 2 fg's. They had the ball a ton of that game, but in 49 pass attempts totaled only 239 passing yds. They didnt have a single play over 20 yds in that game (we had 4). Not one of their WR's averaged 10 yds a catch. For the game they averaged less than 4.0 yds per PLAY. We had more sacks than they did. They fumbled twice (and fortunately for them recovered both) and we picked off ODonnell 3 times.

If not for 3 or 4 really screwy decisions by the refs, the game wouldnt have been close.

It is the main reason why we won.

It was a tale of two games. The first half and the 2nd half. We owned them in first half. Then we coudnt do anything in 2nd half. They were moving the ball on us in 2nd half and if NOT for the 14 points off those 2 turnovers then the 27-17 could be a losing score in their favor. 24-20 Stealers or 31-13 Stealers.

 

[dbair1967]

It is the main reason why we won.

It was a tale of two games. The first hald and the 2nd half. We owned them in first half. Then we coudnt do anything in 2nd half. They were moving the ball on us in 2nd half and if NOT for the 14 points off those 2 turnovers then the 27-17 could be a losing score in their favor. 24-20 Stealers or 31-13 Stealers.

I guess your entitled to your opinion, but I dont share it.

The Stealers did almost nothing the whole game, something the numbers clearly show. Add in the bad calls/non calls, and thats the only reason the game was close.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I guess your entitled to your opinion, but I dont share it.

The Stealers did almost nothing the whole game, something the numbers clearly show. Add in the bad calls/non calls, and thats the only reason the game was close.

And thats all well and good. What sense would it make if we all agreed.

With that said. AGAIN, if not for the 14 points off those 2 turnover(we were not playing well in 2nd half) I BELIEVE that we could lose that game to a team(as you said, wasnt doing enough to win but yet could have won that game anyway).


Do the math?

27-17 minus 14 pts off those turnovers. I remember one of the Stealers saying to Nate, "we dominated you"(he meant 2nd half) and Nate responded with, "yeah but look at the score". If not for Larry, we lose.

I love how Jimmy Johnson and Larry Brown dont get their just due because they werent here that long or whatever reason is conjured up to take credit away.

Larry Brown was MVP for a reason. He won the game.... just my opinion

 

[dbair1967]

And thats all well and good. What sense would it make if we all agreed.

With that said. AGAIN, if not for the 14 points off those 2 turnover(we were not playing well in 2nd half) I BELIEVE that we could lose that game to a team(as you said, wasnt doing enough to win but yet could have won that game anyway).


Do the math?

27-17 minus 14 pts off those turnovers. I remember one of the Stealers saying to Nate, "we dominated you"(he meant 2nd half) and Nate responded with, "yeah but look at the score". If not for Larry, we lose.

I love how Jimmy Johnson and Larry Brown dont get their just due because they werent here that long or whatever reason is conjured up to take credit away.

Larry Brown was MVP for a reason. He won the game.... just my opinion

The two picks were huge plays, but he didnt score tds on either one of them. If the Stealers defense was so great, why didnt they hold us to FG's or something or force us to turn it over.

The Stealers should have never got their first td by the way.

 

[hawklegion]

Classless comment. Bill Parcells took over a perpetual 5-11 team with a couple of talented players. When Wade got it, it was already loaded with great talent. (Parcells brought in Ware, Witten, Newman, James, Romo, Gurode, Ratliff, Colombo, Koiser, Barber, etc)

If anything, the fact that it took Wade three years with all that talent (and more!) to win a single playoff game (and then get routed AGAIN) is a testament to the fact that he should shut the **** up about what Parcells did vs what he did.

+1

Wade's comments show his complete lack of intellectual ability. Parcells took over a very bad team with Quincy Carter as the QB. Wade was handed a play-off caliber team with Romo as QB. For Wade to compare his record to Parcells is beyond the pale.

 

[Idgit]

Classless comment. Bill Parcells took over a perpetual 5-11 team with a couple of talented players. When Wade got it, it was already loaded with great talent. (Parcells brought in Ware, Witten, Newman, James, Romo, Gurode, Ratliff, Colombo, Koiser, Barber, etc)

If anything, the fact that it took Wade three years with all that talent (and more!) to win a single playoff game (and then get routed AGAIN) is a testament to the fact that he should shut the **** up about what Parcells did vs what he did.

I wonder why Parcels walked away from such a talented team? You'd think a guy so well know for his ability to manipulate situations would have seen the writing on the wall after he built up such young talent. But he left, right when the team was poised for a Superbowl run. Right.

When Bill left, he talked publicly about how hard the Dallas gig is. Face it, people, the Cowboys HC job is probably the toughest coaching job in football. Wade's done good work here with very little credit, and he's entitled to remind the media of that fact from time to time. Especially after a season where he finally sheds the silly label as a coach who can't win a game in the playoffs.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The two picks were huge plays,

but he didnt score tds on either one of them.

If the Stealers defense was so great, why didnt they hold us to FG's or something or force us to turn it over.

The Stealers should have never got their first td by the way.

Yes they were.

No but we got ball back and scored. Something we werent doing for some reason during our offense series.

Stealers defense?? We were stalling on offense. Credit who you want.

Shoulda, coulda... well you know that one....



Yeah you are right. MVP for winning the game - no reason for it. We were playing lights out anyway. The game should have been 52-7.... uh huh, ok.