Garret's last two Games

[Chocolate Lab]

DragonCowboy FTW.

 

[dbair1967]

JG doesn't have this team any more prepared than Phillips did.
The newness has worn off already.

Not really. I didnt see lack of prepared, I saw lack of concentration by two WR's who make too much money to continually kill our own QB with boneheaded plays.

I dont know what Garrett or any of the other coaches could have done to "prepare" the WR's to not do what they did. Austin made a nice catch for a TD late in the game, but up till that point he had a really bad game. RW should have never been out there to begin with IMO, he looked like a guy running less than half speed to me.

 

[spookyoldtree]

Not with that much time left it isnt.

explain why going for 2 is a worse choice than going for 1? Why aren't people getting it?

 

[wileedog]

Seriously, as soon as we scored the TD to Austin, I said to myself there is too much time on the clock. And the defense folded, yet again.

Like some of the offensive failures were on Wade, the defensive failures are on Garrett, the Head Coach.

Not impressed with JG the past two weeks, and tonight probably opens the doors to the Gruden/Cowher/Fox interviews.

 

[Zman5]

Defense did not make the final stop but it did only give up

13 points
183 yards passing
93 yards rushing.


That's good enough for most descent team to win a game if the Offense and the ST would have taken care of their business.

It was a team loss but if you want to blame one unit for the loss, blame the offense for giving away 14 points in the first quarter.

 

[DragonCowboy]

Like some of the offensive failures were on Wade, the defensive failures are on Garrett, the Head Coach.

Not impressed with JG the past two weeks, and tonight probably opens the doors to the Gruden/Cowher/Fox interviews.

NO. We cannot let that happen. Jason Garrett is the future. Don't interview anyone else (except to fulfill the Rooney Rule). Garrett has already won the job, clearly.

 

[dbair1967]

explain why going for 2 is a worse choice than going for 1? Why aren't people getting it?

Because with 15+ mins and several possession left, if you dont make it you are "chasing" points

You dont know how the game will play out at that point. You go for two when you are down by certain point factors with limited possessions left. Down by 8 with over a quarter left, I dont think I've seen many (if any) NFL coaches go for 2.

 

[wileedog]

Defense did not make the final stop but it did only give up

13 points
183 yards passing
93 yards rushing.


That's good enough for most descent team to win a game if the Offense and the ST would have taken care of their business.

It was a team loss but if you want to blame one unit for the loss, blame the offense for giving away 14 points in the first quarter.

Playing against an absolute nobody at QB. And again it came down to them stopping a final drive, which they seem utterly incapable of doing. That's one thing that simply has not changed under JG.

 

[UnoDallas]

I want him to be named fulltime HC.

Then replace alot of this staff with people he wants, and dump the obvious handful of washed up or no-talent players that are holding us back.

Then I'll be excited about 2011, assuming there is a 2011 season.

JG all the way Dbair

 

[dbair1967]

Defense did not make the final stop but it did only give up

13 points
183 yards passing
93 yards rushing.


That's good enough for most descent team to win a game if the Offense and the ST would have taken care of their business.

It was a team loss but if you want to blame one unit for the loss, blame the offense for giving away 14 points in the first quarter.

Why should I blame the offense as a whole? Just blame the two guys who screwed up those two plays, Austin and RW. Both of whom have done this mutliple tims this yr.

The fact is you have a lead, you've got a team down deep in their own territory with a rookie 5th rd pick at QB, facing 4th and 15. And you give up a 30+ yd play to the only decent offensive player that team has by leaving him wide open.

The defense lost the game, again.

 

[Zman5]

Not really. I didnt see lack of prepared, I saw lack of concentration by two WR's who make too much money to continually kill our own QB with boneheaded plays.

I dont know what Garrett or any of the other coaches could have done to "prepare" the WR's to not do what they did. Austin made a nice catch for a TD late in the game, but up till that point he had a really bad game. RW should have never been out there to begin with IMO, he looked like a guy running less than half speed to me.

If that's the case, then that's on the coaches. The HC should know better not to play someone who isn't ready to go full speed.

 

[DragonCowboy]

If that's the case, then that's on the coaches. The HC should know better not to play someone who isn't ready to go full speed.

ouch

 

[UnoDallas]

So none of the guys on offense are guys Garrett wanted?

So we shouldn't give him credit for the 2007 and 2009 offenses?

OK.

Garretts gets strapped the D could not stop them ?

could they ?

the offense scored points with Kitna & McGee

 

[dbair1967]

If that's the case, then that's on the coaches. The HC should know better not to play someone who isn't ready to go full speed.

He goes by what the player and the medical staff tell him I would assume. I didnt see him in pregame warmups so I have no idea what he looked like then, it just appeared to be that he was really laboring to get off the snap, get in and out of breaks on a few plays that I saw. And he seemed to play alot less as the game wore on so somebody figured it out.

 

[Zman5]

Why should I blame the offense as a whole? Just blame the two guys who screwed up those two plays, Austin and RW. Both of whom have done this mutliple tims this yr.

The fact is you have a lead, you've got a team down deep in their own territory with a rookie 5th rd pick at QB, facing 4th and 15. And you give up a 30+ yd play to the only decent offensive player that team has by leaving him wide open.

The defense lost the game, again.

You should do the same for the defense if you are going to do that with offense.

Just blame Brooking then instead. The defense as a whole only gave up 13 points. Brooking didn't make the play at the end.

How convenient for you to only blame two player out of the offense who made the mistakes but now you want to blame the whole defense, who played well for the most part of the game, for the loss.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Because with 15+ mins and several possession left, if you dont make it you are "chasing" points

You dont know how the game will play out at that point. You go for two when you are down by certain point factors with limited possessions left. Down by 8 with over a quarter left, I dont think I've seen many (if any) NFL coaches go for 2.

You are completely wrong. You have a limited number of possessions, something you admit. If you fail the 2 pointer and they score a field goal or touchdown in return, you still have to score a touchdown. Makes no sense to not go for it at that point.

Amazing how you can blame the defense when the offense gave up more points, lol.

 

[DragonCowboy]

Garretts gets strapped the D could not stop them ?

what?

could they ?

the offense scored points with Kitna & McGee

I agree, they couldn't. This defense needs a LOT of fixing. But the defense isn't the only side of the ball that lost us this game.

 

[RS12]

Defense did not make the final stop but it did only give up

13 points
183 yards passing
93 yards rushing.


That's good enough for most descent team to win a game if the Offense and the ST would have taken care of their business.

It was a team loss but if you want to blame one unit for the loss, blame the offense for giving away 14 points in the first quarter.

As usual, when it counted, they were no where to be found.

 

[bruce122767]

Really?
What's the downside of going for 2 pts?
If you make it, you tie the game. If not, you are down 2 pts. And there is virtually no difference between down 1 pt and down 2 pts.
I can't believe so many people, including JG, don't understand this simple decision making.

I have seen games where teams who went for 2 spend the rest of the game chasing the point they lost. The most common scenario is the team is down 4 points late and must get a td, where if they kicked the point all they would have needed is a field goal.

In the game tonight, if the Boys had gone for 2 and all other things played out the game, they would have played for the field goal and not the TD. But that is unlikely as the Cards would have played differently if they were tied and not ahead.

However, with Buehler kicking I have come to the conclusion that going for 2 and only attempting field goals over 40 yards might be the best option!!

 

[dbair1967]

You are completely wrong. You have a limited number of possessions, something you admit. If you fail the 2 pointer and they score a field goal or touchdown in return, you still have to score a touchdown. Makes no sense to not go for it at that point.

Amazing how you can blame the defense when the offense gave up more points, lol.

You probably have 3 or 4 possessions at that point, against a team that had done next to nothing offensively.

As for blaming the defense, we had the lead against a rookie 5th rd pick QB, late in the game and them having to go 50 yds or more just to get into FG range. I'd call that a failure. Especially once we got them to 4th and 15. It wasnt like it was a miracle fluke play or a bad call, they had their only decent offensive player wide open 30 yds down field and had 8 guys in coverage.

And I choose not to blame the offense as a whole for those two tds. They were the fault of two guys and two guys only. Two guys who both get paid a ton of money and have made too many plays just like that all yr.