Garrett Fans

[rcaldw]

Please don't tell me it's an interview with a player defending their coach and that's supposed to be some kind of evidence that he is any good.

Go listen and tell me if it is the normal kind of defense you hear from a player... go ahead.

 

[Mansta54]

Go listen and tell me if it is the normal kind of defense you hear from a player... go ahead.

Dude he and the others are gonna hear what they wanna hear, you're wasting your time. Just sayin!!

 

[rcaldw]

Dude he and the others are gonna hear what they wanna hear, you're wasting your time. Just sayin!!

correct sir.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

You gotta love how the "Players support Garrett despite being losers" is the headline on the propaganda site. If Jerry and co think this is headline worthy, then that COMPLETELY soothes my fears that this clown is in over his head. The propaganda website tells me so!!!

 

[Big Country]

1. Tell me how this guy is a great coach who going into halftime with a tied game and the ball on the other side he can't get more than eleven points in thirty minutes.

2. Oh and seeing the same blitz package the entire game he can't come up with one single course of action to beat it.

3. Let's just face it the guy is a joke.

1. Because London Fletcher is a bad-*** LB and he made plays (like always) all game long, plus being very involved in the blitz packages which (any pressure up the middle) has caused the middle of the Cowboy OL problems ALL year long... plus DeAngelo Hall played out of his mind and had an all pro game when it mattered.

2. This is not all on Garrett as we have a much heralded OL coach in Callahan who could have pitched in and pointed out a few adjustments to make for the 2nd half.

3. Knee jerk BS. Now by saying all that in 1 and 2, I would really like to see Dallas go out and get a bonafide offensive coordinator to aid in calling the plays. This would give another trusted soul to bounce ideas, game situations off of. Someone that Red trusts... like Norv Turner. Norv would do wonders for the running game also in my opinion. He has always made good running backs better. eg. Emmitt, Stephen Davis, Tomlinson, Sproles, Michael Turner...

I think Garrett has obviously had his missteps in game management situations recently and having an offensive mind like Turner around, someone who has worked with Garrett before, would allow Garrett to be more of an asset by allowing him to see more of the field on both sides, instead of focusing so much on offense.

I also believe Garrett would actually not feel slighted if Jones were to make such a move because I think Jones trusts him that much and they both exist on a level that will allow Dallas to improve even more next year.

Now FIX the lines !!!! It's about blocking and tackling!

 

[kmp77]

Don't waste your time Idg... arguing with stupidity makes us stupid after awhile.

Just refer to them to dallascowboys.com .... listen to the Lee interview.

Then they can all go tell Lee that he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Wow, mature to call those who don't approve of Garrett stupid.

So all I have to do is find one audio clip of someone speaking good of Campo and that is 100% proof that Campo is a good coach?!?!?!?!?

 

[dstone2962]

Don't waste your time Idg... arguing with stupidity makes us stupid after awhile.

Just refer to them to dallascowboys.com .... listen to the Lee interview.

Then they can all go tell Lee that he doesn't know what he is talking about.

So an interview with a guy who didnt play is supposed to convince me about results I saw from guys who did?

 

[kmp77]

Please don't tell me it's an interview with a player defending their coach and that's supposed to be some kind of evidence that he is any good.

Exactly!!! Find me a clip of a player talking bad about Jerry....DO IT!! And if you don't that means Jerry is an excellent GM and owner???

 

[dstone2962]

What's more pathetic about the Cowboys situation is that the front office and coaches always have a scapegoat. Something to make Romos gaffes and Garrett's miscues seem understandable. This year it's injuries. If only Sean Lee were out there. If only Ratliff hadn't tried to physically assault Jerry. If only.

 

[Idgit]

Sik em Idget

Don't waste your time Idg... arguing with stupidity makes us stupid after awhile.

Just refer to them to dallascowboys.com .... listen to the Lee interview.

Then they can all go tell Lee that he doesn't know what he is talking about.

They don't have to agree, for crying out loud. I just get tired of them asking, and the completely ignoring the good content they get in reply, and then watching those threads die (when they could be really good threads), only to see the next one crop up as if the one before it never happened.

I've personally answered this very question, in a bulleted list format, more than once, just to watch the post, and others like it get totally hopped-over, only to have another poster wander in later in the thread to conclude that nobody has any answers to the OP, and I sit there and think "what the hell are these people reading?" I mean, they don't have to be convinced, but they should at least acknowledge when they get the replies they ask for.

As for referring them to the player interviews, I agree: player support for Garrett is definitely relevant in evaluating the job he's doing as a coach. It's easy to write it off with the 'what's he supposed to say?' line, but then that begets the 'he didn't have to say what he did' reply, and we can go round and round chasing our tails.

End of the day, the talent is getting better, the holes are getting addressed, the team is competitive, we're playing well late in games and late in the season, we've got one of the better staffs of assistants in the entire league, and we're out from under a significant salary cap problem. These are the things good coaches help you do. We're partway through the project, and I think the future looks pretty bright. I'm content for the next season, at least, though I do want and expect to see progress in terms of wins and losses.

 

[CATCH17]

Dude he and the others are gonna hear what they wanna hear, you're wasting your time. Just sayin!!

I could honestly care less what they have to say.

Cowboy talk is very very cheap.

 

[dstone2962]

They don't have to agree, for crying out loud. I just get tired of them asking, and the completely ignoring the good content they get in reply, and then watching those threads die (when they could be really good threads), only to see the next one crop up as if the one before it never happened.

I've personally answered this very question, in a bulleted list format, more than once, just to watch the post, and others like it get totally hopped-over, only to have another poster wander in later in the thread to conclude that nobody has any answers to the OP, and I sit there and think "what the hell are these people reading?" I mean, they don't have to be convinced, but they should at least acknowledge when they get the replies they ask for.

As for referring them to the player interviews, I agree: player support for Garrett is definitely relevant in evaluating the job he's doing as a coach. It's easy to write it off with the 'what's he supposed to say?' line, but then that begets the 'he didn't have to say what he did' reply, and we can go round and round chasing our tails.

End of the day, the talent is getting better, the holes are getting addressed, the team is competitive, we're playing well late in games and late in the season, we've got one of the better staffs of assistants in the entire league, and we're out from under a significant salary cap problem. These are the things good coaches help you do. We're partway through the project, and I think the future looks pretty bright. I'm content for the next season, at least, though I do want and expect to see progress in terms of wins and losses.

Why is it that we were the team with the veteran players who have played in these situations before and in the end two rookie stars and essentially one defensive scheme make us look completely helpless?

What adjustments did the team make that you would call phenomenal after halftime considering what was seen by Alfred Morris' touchdown drive to end the first half?

 

[Idgit]

Why is it that we were the team with the veteran players who have played in these situations before and in the end two rookie stars and essentially one defensive scheme make us look completely helpless?

What adjustments did the team make that you would call phenomenal after halftime considering what was seen by Alfred Morris' touchdown drive to end the first half?

Two rookie stars? I saw one beat us in that game. And I wouldn't call the 'adjustments' phenomenal. Nor would I have expected phenomenal adjustments. What we were doing should have had us up by a score with the ball in our hands on the road to start the second half had we not thrown two picks that were absolutely not on the head coach.

What we were doing was working, so why would we have changed it? The protection was holding against the base fronts. The RBs and TEs were doing a good job picking up the blitzers. We just couldn't get the ball to the hot reads fast enough without turning it over. We had the dang ball with 3 timeouts and 4 minutes left in postion to win the game, after all. What more do you want? Then we had it again with two minutes left down by no more than 6 when we turned it over with a roughing the passer penalty.

Alfred Morris can run that stretch on my defense all day long if RGIII can't throw it downfield. If we're putting up the points we should have been putting up, that's a loser's bet for the Skins. You just can't make that work if you're underthrowing balls into inside coverage and throwing it behind your TE with a LB trailing, or missing the coverage backer on our outlet pass. That's pretty obvious, isn't it?

 

[Dodger12]

I also believe Garrett would actually not feel slighted if Jones were to make such a move because I think Jones trusts him that much and they both exist on a level that will allow Dallas to improve even more next year.

I agree with much of what you wrote. We should be structured with a HC, OC and DC. But that shouldn't be Jerry's decision. As qualified as Norv may be as an OC, it must be JG's decision to bring him in. JG should have known after two plus years that it's too much for him to handle in-game decisions and offensive play calling. Unfortunately, he doesn't. He's been absolutely putrid in that respect to the point where it arguably has cost this team multiple games. It's a joke.

Garrett has also come out and stated after this season was done that he will retain play calling duties. So all this fiction and hope that people feel may happen like bringing in an OC to help JG just isn't happening. The dolt can't even admit that he has a problem, whether it be inexperience or being over burdened on game day. And even Jerry has said that he wants the HC to be involved on one side of the ball so the boss doesn't see the value of this structure.

I have a hard time believing that Jerry, even being a football/GM novice, doesn't see Garrett's game day flaws after owning the team for over 20 years. But he either doesn't care or is too stubborn to make a change because his ego won't allow him to admit he made a mistake hiring JG in the first place.

 

[OklahomaCowboy88]

That's patently untrue. It's been asked, and answered, specifically and eloquently, many times.

The replies to these threads are never addressed and are instead ignored until the next time somebody wants to blame the coach for a loss.

If you care enough for a reply, it should be an easy advanced search for you.

I'll concede that I haven't read every post in every thread on this forum. I do recall that those defending him in the ones I have read consisted if gut feelings or obscure "I'll answer that, but not here" responses.

I'd be interested in reading those specific and eloquent responses you referenced. Please provide links.

 

[Idgit]

I'd be interested in reading those specific and eloquent responses you referenced. Please provide links.

No. Go find them if you'd be interested. They're there from the first however-many times this same question was asked.

 

[OklahomaCowboy88]

No. Go find them if you'd be interested. They're their from the first however-many times this same question was asked.

I'm not going to dig through thousands of posts to find where someone with 50 thousand internet posts says Garrett will be great because Tom Landry struggled once and Garretts players love playing for him.

If you got direct links to something worthwhile to read, I'm all ears (or eyes). But I sincerely doubt you do.

 

[Idgit]

I'm not going to dig through thousands of posts to find where someone with 50 thousand internet posts says Garrett will be great because Tom Landry struggled once and Garretts players love playing for him.

If you got direct links to something worthwhile to read, I'm all ears (or eyes). But I sincerely doubt you do.

Ok. I suggest you don't do that, then. Thanks for sharing your intentions.

 

[ologan]

I'll concede that I haven't read every post in every thread on this forum. I do recall that those defending him in the ones I have read consisted if gut feelings or obscure "I'll answer that, but not here" responses.

I'd be interested in reading those specific and eloquent responses you referenced. Please provide links.

hmmm...One troll with a couple of posts and this one with 180. Starting off the new year right with a double "ignore"!!

 

[cowboy_ron]

hmmm...One troll with a couple of posts and this one with 180. Starting off the new year right with a double "ignore"!!

They are Wolves in sheeps clothing my frend