Garrett: "We practice that every day"

[kevm3]

Serious question. What would you suggest?

When one of the Giant's players messed up, McAdoo got in his face and yelled at him. I see on the Patriots, when a player messes up, he looks distraught. If anything there should be the risk of benching. Williams play wasn't the only one that stuck out to me. I seen both Williams and Beasley get the 1st down and then actually run backwards and lose that 1st down. There needs to be more discipline on the team or these small mistakes will add up and cost us like they did tonight.

 

[WoodysGirl]

When one of the Giant's players messed up, McAdoo got in his face and yelled at him. I see on the Patriots, when a player messes up, he looks distraught. If anything there should be the risk of benching. Williams play wasn't the only one that stuck out to me. I seen both Williams and Beasley get the 1st down and then actually run backwards and lose that 1st down. There needs to be more discipline on the team or these small mistakes will add up and cost us like they did tonight.

But in this instance, what do you suggest?

It's the end of the game and T-Will is already looking destroyed on the field. Coaches gotta do the handshake pleasantries and whatnot. So you want JG to ignore the NFL's end-game routine to go chew T-Will out ala McAdoo for the world to see? All you can do is shake your head and just address it in the lockerroom.

And if you're talking about benching him... let's talk about next man up. Benching him for who and how long and is benching him detrimental to the team? Ijs.. There are rules I'm sure the players have to abide by, but I'm just asking you and anyone reading this to put this in perspective. This isn't high school or college. There isn't an unlimited amount of players on the roster. The talent depth on this team isn't that deep. So when you're talking discipline, there's a lot that has to be taken into consideration.

I'm not suggesting he shouldn't be disciplined or whatever.. but put yourself in the coaches shoes and tell me what you would do...

 

[Tommy]

Yep. Both Dunbar and Williams did the stupid thing. Even our players are really dumb or the coaches aren't coaching. I guess I'd rather believe the latter than the former.

Do you know what TWill should have done because a former coach taught it to you? I'm guessing no. Yet, you know that TWill should have run out of bounds in that situation. You didn't need a coach to tell you that.

There are a lot of variables when it comes to a 2 minute offense. What needs to be done can change from play to play. A coach cannot teach a player what he needs to do in every single situation. A player in that situation has to have situational awareness. As he is running up to the line of scrimmage for the next play he is looking at the play clock, considering timeouts, and field location and understands what needs to be done that play. Before that ball was snapped TWill should be telling himself that if the ball comes his way he has to immediately get out of bounds. If there is any doubt in his mind what to do then the answer still is to get out of bounds.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Jason on 105.3 radio this Morning , I'm sure someone will recap entire interview but right off the bat he says TWill is put in that position every day in practice and that he made a mistake and went inside. He said depending on the clock he had no problem sending Bailey in there from that distance.

Is there a course that a coach can take to teach them the basic fundamentals of when to call timeouts? Garrett needs to take the basic skills course.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He would have had to go backwards to get out of bounds, and then we'd be in hail mary territory anyways so, really, the point is moot.

The bigger issue is that JG had an outside receiver running an inside comeback route that didn't get him into FG range with less than :15 on the clock and no timeouts. That route is going to essentially end the game 100% of the time.

The real issues is that Garrett failed to call a timeout right before the two minute warning that would have saved us another 30 seconds.

 

[nobody]

Yep. Both Dunbar and Williams did the stupid thing. Even our players are really dumb or the coaches aren't coaching. I guess I'd rather believe the latter than the former.

Sorry, I have to disagree. The evidence over the past few years suggests that while coaching has been a problem, these players find new ways to be dumb all of the time. They keep getting really dumb players.

 

[kevm3]

But in this instance, what do you suggest?

It's the end of the game and T-Will is already looking destroyed on the field. Coaches gotta do the handshake pleasantries and whatnot. So you want JG to ignore the NFL's end-game routine to go chew T-Will out ala McAdoo for the world to see? All you can do is shake your head and just address it in the lockerroom.

And if you're talking about benching him... let's talk about next man up. Benching him for who and how long and is benching him detrimental to the team? Ijs.. There are rules I'm sure the players have to abide by, but I'm just asking you and anyone reading this to put this in perspective. This isn't high school or college. There isn't an unlimited amount of players on the roster. The talent depth on this team isn't that deep. So when you're talking discipline, there's a lot that has to be taken into consideration.

Play Butler. There's a point where these guys have to stop making mistakes in crunch time. Bench him for a half. Williams made an extremely basic, football 101 kind of mistake. He was also making mistakes earlier in the game along with Beasley of getting the 1st down and then running backwards, thereby losing the 1st down. These guys can't continue making these kind of mistakes.

 

[Deep_South]

I'm sure in the future Dak will remind them in the huddle they need to get out of bounds in situations like this one. Now that he knows in all of the excitement veteran players aren't necessarily aware of how much time is on the clock, I wouldn't expect this to happen again on his watch.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm sure in the future Dak will remind them in the huddle they need to get out of bounds in situations like this one. Now that he knows in all of the excitement veteran players aren't necessarily aware of how much time is on the clock, I wouldn't expect this to happen again on his watch.

LOL...........or maybe the head coach should teach his players to go out of bounds in the two minute drill.

 

[LandryFan]

Liar liar pants on fire. It's hard for me to believe anything that comes outta his mouth. Tapper is day to day. Lol. Nzoecha is day to day lol.

I don't know...being coy about player availability is nothing new in the NFL...EVERY Coach does that. Why would he lie about the team practicing that play every day? I'm 99.999% sure he was telling the truth. If you don't like him as Head Coach, fine...that's your prerogative, but he wasn't lying.

 

[slick325]

I'm 100% certain that Dallas practices and coaches that situation. They definitely practice situational football and to suggest otherwise is negligent.

TWill like all players make mistakes despite what was told to him or engrained in him. It happens. Anyone who has played a sport knows that the heat of the moment or fatigue can cause lapses. That is part of the game and normally has nothing to do with the Coaches. Proof of that is the fact that Dez was motioning for him to go out of bounds. Why? Because the Coaches had engrained that in them...

 

[Miller]

I don't care what is practiced, etc.....you tell the team under all circumstances go out of bounds. How hard is it to repeat that or remind them. It isn't like we haven't seen 6 years of players with no situational awareness. There is a disconnect between what he tells us he preaches and what happens on Sundays

 

[slick325]

Garrett said the same thing immediately after the game. It was ignored in the immediate scrum bashing, but it isn't like this is a new quote.

And I believe they do practice this. What coach wouldn't practice this stuff? JG isn't the greatest coach, but this is basic stuff. T-Will had a brainfart. Period.

Can I possibly give you more "likes" than the one I gave already??? If so...let me know!!! Well said...

 

[MileyDancer]

"We only lost by 1 point. You can't see what being built here. It's a process. None of you know what it takes in the NFL to win. We don't have Romo. The players play hard for him."


....and all the other excuses Garrett supporters have.

 

[Deep_South]

LOL...........or maybe the head coach should teach his players to go out of bounds in the two minute drill.

Of course they are taught to get out of bounds and have actually done so in the past, but the only way to be sure everyone is aware of the critical time element at crunch time is to remind them.

 

[HanD]

The real issues is that Garrett failed to call a timeout right before the two minute warning that would have saved us another 30 seconds.

He used all his timeouts before the 2 minute warning. at 3:05, 3:00 and 2:54. the Def couldn't stop the runs early on enough to keep enough time on the clock. We should have been selling out to stop the run. 3 man coverage and 8 in the box attacking. Worst case is they score and we are down 8 with over 2 minutes left on the clock. That compounded with Dunbar not going out and Twill at the end killed it. Watching the play again, Twill could have gotten out at the 45 IMO even with the defender coming right at him.


that would have been a 62 yarder? i'd be willing to at least give bailey the shot. he hit that 56 and 54 yarder with plenty of leg left.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Do you know what TWill should have done because a former coach taught it to you? I'm guessing no. Yet, you know that TWill should have run out of bounds in that situation. You didn't need a coach to tell you that.

There are a lot of variables when it comes to a 2 minute offense. What needs to be done can change from play to play. A coach cannot teach a player what he needs to do in every single situation. A player in that situation has to have situational awareness. As he is running up to the line of scrimmage for the next play he is looking at the play clock, considering timeouts, and field location and understands what needs to be done that play. Before that ball was snapped TWill should be telling himself that if the ball comes his way he has to immediately get out of bounds. If there is any doubt in his mind what to do then the answer still is to get out of bounds.

That is what I said. A player must get out of bounds in that situation. There's no excuse for it. I don't need a coach to tell me anything. Everybody knows this. It was a dumb play and T-Will knows it. That's why he was crushed on the field afterwards. Dunbar stayed in bounds too so it is troubling to me. I'm not the one who needs a coach to teach me something. The Cowboys apparently do.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Of course they are taught to get out of bounds and have actually done so in the past, but the only way to be sure everyone is aware of the critical time element at crunch time is to remind them.

So after Dunbar screwed it up why did the next guy do it two plays later? I watch other coaches all game long screaming at their team at the end of games telling the team what to do on the field. Bozo the clown just sits there.

 

[LandryFan]

Yep. Both Dunbar and Williams did the stupid thing. Even our players are really dumb or the coaches aren't coaching. I guess I'd rather believe the latter than the former.

I'm not defending TWill...he should have gone OB and didn't. All I'll say is that executing a critical play at a critical time is not something that every player can pull off with regularity. TWill falls into that category. Some will say he's dumb...I don't think he's dumb, but he did make a dumb decision and I wouldn't look to him with the game on the line. Having said that, he did save our butt in the Seattle game with a difficult clutch catch two years ago. That was then and this is now. Just wish he had gone OB to give Bailey a shot

 

[CowboyRoy]

He used all his timeouts before the 2 minute warning. at 3:05, 3:00 and 2:54. the Def couldn't stop the runs early on enough to keep enough time on the clock. We should have been selling out to stop the run. 3 man coverage and 8 in the box attacking. Worst case is they score and we are down 8 with over 2 minutes left on the clock. That compounded with Dunbar not going out and Twill at the end killed it. Watching the play again, Twill could have gotten out at the 45 IMO even with the defender coming right at him.


that would have been a 62 yarder? i'd be willing to at least give bailey the shot. he hit that 56 and 54 yarder with plenty of leg left.

Are you 100% positive? I could have sworn we called a timeout after that final 3rd down play after the two minute warning.