GB - Week 1 Quick Hits

[Montanalo]

I figured the Dez Bryant hate would come out.

Time for people to give Janoris Jenkins his credit. He's very good.

Look no further than Dez's long reception last night... his strength and open field moves were outstanding and this is why we need to continue getting the ball in his hands

 

[Galian Beast]

who said we could have had AP for the same price as DM/AM???

AP's annual salary is 3.5 million.

Morris is 1.75 million.
McFadden is 980k.

2.73 million versus 3.5 million.

 

[noshame]

I think we're using Dez wrong. No more deep stuff, 1O-15 yds push off, make a cut, throw him the ball, let him run. Almost like you'd use a TE. As I said last year, the days of him out leaping DBs are over. Use what little speed we have outside, not Dez.

 

[Pants]

I agree with the OP on a few points...coaching was pathetic at times...if the goal is to score, then when you have first and goal from the 3 and then throw 3 BAD passes to Dez, well, I don't get that...don't we have arguably the best OLine and best RB in the game? pound the #$#@!$ out of them....I thought Dak, while not having a picture-perfect game from a technical standpoint, had a great game from a "control" standpoint....D looked very good, they made tackles and were running to the ball...the DLine caused some pressure and I think THAT was because the secondary caused Eli to pause a lot...some times, the pressure gives the secondary that extra second to cover...in this case, I think the secondary covered for that extra second and helped the pressure

I will give the team a B to B+ in this game....room for improvement, but a terrific win

 

[shabazz]

We dominated a team that has beat us on a regular basis since moving to Jerry World.

We pretty much owned them except for the scoreboard.

There... That's my quick hits and I have a strong back woods pimp hand... Not some clam chowder noreaster hand.

Wow, you really do keep your pimp hand strong!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

While we did win, I hope no one is patting themselves on the back too hard after this one. Play like this isn't going to beat top teams. It isn't going to win playoff games. It isn't going to win super bowls.

Coaching
I would say some poor 1st half clock management and timeout management cost us 4 points and a poor decision not to run it on the goal line on with three back to back passes cost us an additional 4. Starting the second half 24-0 would have really helped put this game away early.

Quite the assumption that we could have saved enough time and generated enough yards to get a TD with less than 2 mins and two timeouts. Helps to say how they could have saved enough time to do such a thing.

The Giants have a superbly talented defense and I think you overrate coaching dramatically on game days.

I continue to be unimpressed with Garrett and the mentality and persona he brings to this team. He has no killer instinct nor does he have a view for smash mouth football. Someone in the comments for the game mentioned it best that under Garrett 3rd and 2 has turned into a passing down. I understand they think it gives them more options, especially with a mobile QB like Prescott, but it just isn't smart football.

The pass rush was outstanding including down the stretch and the last drive we had before the Giants had the ball the final time saw us run the ball 8 times and score. I think you have no idea what a killer instinct is.

We ran the ball 31 times that game and all but one attempt was either inside or offtackle. That is smashmouth football.

The Cowboys had 3 3rd and shorts, ran once and only converted 1 pass. But hey if you think 3 attempts is enough to get a feel for how it is going to be great for you. Nevermind that the Giants were absolutely selling out when they saw run. You did notice how hard they were biting on playaction no?

Marinelli catches a lot of flack, but he is without a doubt the best coach on our team and has made the best use of the players he has available. You also don't see him play around much with best player available. For some reason Cooper, Rush, and McFadden were scratched for the night. This made no sense.

When Kellen Moore actually becomes an issue in a game I will worry about Rush sitting. Morris outplayed DMC and deserved to play.

Offense

Passing Game
Dez Bryant continues to disappear when he is needed the most. Part of it is Dez not being the same player he used to be, but the other end is Prescott simply isn't as good as many people think he is. He's a good young quarterback, but he isn't elite, nor is he a gunslinger. Beasley continues to elevate his game. He is truly dependable.

At the end of the first half Prescott had 28 passes... This is stunning to me. 39 passes in all...

You must've been flabbergasted by Turner's playcalling in the 90s. Aikman used to take the lead in the first half and Smith closed them out. They were allowing a ton of contact down field on Dez and Dak was not going to force the ball. His mechanics and thus accuracy were a bit erratic but he only put the ball in danger at once. Thing is he played better in that regard before and I imagine he will figure it out.

I have to say, I was not pleased with the offensive game plan. The best player on this team is Ezekiel Elliott and he needs to be spotlighted in our offense. Linehan and Garrett treat him like a nice to have, while trying to overuse Dak Prescott as if he were Peyton Manning (he isn't).

He was highlighted to the tune of over 25 touches. You may think 500 touches is good for a season but you would be wrong.

Running game
Every time I see Morris in the game it reminds me we could have had Peterson for roughly the same value as Morris and McFadden combined. Instead we almost always see Morris struggle in there. Nothing stalls a drive faster than putting Alfred Morris in the backfield. Stunned more people weren't onboard with getting Peterson who would have been an excellent backup.

Offensive Line
The offensive line isn't what it was last year or the year before. The 40 percent turnover on the line has created an issue for what was the working mechanism for this team. I have to hope that they improve as the season goes on. I think the ceiling on Collins is obviously much higher than Doug Free. This team needs to rediscover its identity on offense quickly.

JPP is playing real well. Did you notice how low to the ground his rush was or his ability to balance through contact? He only had a couple of pressures. Free would have been blown up. Exactly what bad plays did Green give up?

I'm not sure what you were expecting? For the interior line to dominate Snacks?

Defensive Line
I was surprised by the pressure the defensive line was able to generate, but that was also to be expected as the Giants don't have a great offensive line. Lawrence is playing for his contract and as hard as we all are on Crawford, he isn't a bad player, just has a terrible contract.

Whether or not DLaw is in a contract year he was outstanding recalling his play from two years ago the last time he was healthy. Tapper, Mayowa, and Collins played well as well. I guess you missed that?

Linebackers
Sean Lee had an absolutely great game and I think we can all be pleased with where Smith is now and where he will go from here. Damien Lewis on the other hand shouldn't be expected to play a lot. Can't wait til Hitchens returns.

Wilson was great at SAM and dominated Engram inline. They got him out in space a bit up the sideline once and he still made the tackle. Hitchens is going to do no better in that role.

Secondary
They were decent for all the weaknesses and injuries, but disappointed Scandrick once again can't stay healthy. Anthony Brown continues to be an absolute diamond in the rough.

Scandrick broke his hand. I don't see that the big deal is. Carroll was matched up with Marshall most of the game and what did Marshall do? Awuzie was around the ball alot and the S were outstanding.

Kicking Game

Ryan Switzer just doesn't give you anything at the NFL level as a returner. Absolutely nothing. Much more interested in how he can integrate in the offense. We've also got to have the worst blockers. We've never been able to handle gunners. When was the last time we actually had a punt return?

Speaking of which I hate the 25 yard touchback on kickoffs and how close they're kicking from. They've really ruined a great part of the game.

Dan Bailey continues to be money.

If you would have talked about how the blocking on punt return left a lot to be desired I would give this take credence. As it is I find it hard to take you seriously. You seem intent on being a malcontent. Switzer had at least 2 unblocked defenders to deal with on each of his returns and the Giants punter was kicking high.

Of course our punt team was outstanding pinning the Giants inside the 20 on each punt. Their average field position was awful because of how well we punted the ball.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

AP's annual salary is 3.5 million.

Morris is 1.75 million.
McFadden is 980k.

2.73 million versus 3.5 million.

So...Not the same.

Thanks for clarifying your error.

 

[Galian Beast]

So...Not the same.

Thanks for clarifying your error.

Please go back and re-read what I wrote originally.

 

[Tenkamenin]

I think we're using Dez wrong. No more deep stuff, 1O-15 yds push off, make a cut, throw him the ball, let him run. Almost like you'd use a TE. As I said last year, the days of him out leaping DBs are over. Use what little speed we have outside, not Dez.

Dez can still out leap DBs. Last night, Dez leaped over a DB in the end zone and caught it, but it was out of bounds.

 

[MRV52]

Whoever labeled the Giants Super Bowl contenders needs to have their head examined.

The so called experts did. Did they really look at their offence? You can't win with a horrible offensive line and no running game. Eli will never have time to throw against a good D. Their receivers will be nullified.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Please go back and re-read what I wrote originally.

"Every time I see Morris in the game it reminds me we could have had Peterson for roughly the same value as Morris and McFadden combined."

About a million Dollars difference...not the same...not roughly the same...

 

[MRV52]

Dez can easily be thrown off his game he has to be mentally stronger and forget the trash talking on the field. In all fairness to him, Dak was off last night a bit and missed he open on a few occasions.

 

[Galian Beast]

Quite the assumption that we could have saved enough time and generated enough yards to get a TD with less than 2 mins and two timeouts. Helps to say how they could have saved enough time to do such a thing.

The Giants have a superbly talented defense and I think you overrate coaching dramatically on game days.



The pass rush was outstanding including down the stretch and the last drive we had before the Giants had the ball the final time saw us run the ball 8 times and score. I think you have no idea what a killer instinct is.

We ran the ball 31 times that game and all but one attempt was either inside or offtackle. That is smashmouth football.

The Cowboys had 3 3rd and shorts, ran once and only converted 1 pass. But hey if you think 3 attempts is enough to get a feel for how it is going to be great for you. Nevermind that the Giants were absolutely selling out when they saw run. You did notice how hard they were biting on playaction no?



When Kellen Moore actually becomes an issue in a game I will worry about Rush sitting. Morris outplayed DMC and deserved to play.



You must've been flabbergasted by Turner's playcalling in the 90s. Aikman used to take the lead in the first half and Smith closed them out. They were allowing a ton of contact down field on Dez and Dak was not going to force the ball. His mechanics and thus accuracy were a bit erratic but he only put the ball in danger at once. Thing is he played better in that regard before and I imagine he will figure it out.



He was highlighted to the tune of over 25 touches. You may think 500 touches is good for a season but you would be wrong.







JPP is playing real well. Did you notice how low to the ground his rush was or his ability to balance through contact? He only had a couple of pressures. Free would have been blown up. Exactly what bad plays did Green give up?

I'm not sure what you were expecting? For the interior line to dominate Snacks?



Whether or not DLaw is in a contract year he was outstanding recalling his play from two years ago the last time he was healthy. Tapper, Mayowa, and Collins played well as well. I guess you missed that?



Wilson was great at SAM and dominated Engram inline. They got him out in space a bit up the sideline once and he still made the tackle. Hitchens is going to do no better in that role.



Scandrick broke his hand. I don't see that the big deal is. Carroll was matched up with Marshall most of the game and what did Marshall do? Awuzie was around the ball alot and the S were outstanding.




If you would have talked about how the blocking on punt return left a lot to be desired I would give this take credence. As it is I find it hard to take you seriously. You seem intent on being a malcontent. Switzer had at least 2 unblocked defenders to deal with on each of his returns and the Giants punter was kicking high.

Of course our punt team was outstanding pinning the Giants inside the 20 on each punt. Their average field position was awful because of how well we punted the ball.

You seriously read only what you wanted to read, whether it was there or not.

1. They wasted a time out early because they couldn't get the play call going. This eventually cost us 4 points or at least a shot at the endzone.

2. This was on top of the poor play call in the redzone. We went 1-4 for touchdowns in the redzone... That's not good for an "elite offense".

3. Killer instinct would have been putting this team away in the 3rd quarter after dominating them for nearly three quarters. The Giants were still in the game towards the end of the 4th despite having only two first downs in the first half. Great teams put teams away. You're a homer if you think that is us now or has been us in the last few years.

4. This goes back to play call last year as well as well as the play call in the redzone. We're entirely too pass happy in short yardage situations.

5. When Kellen Moore becomes an issue? Dak can be hurt on any play. And having Moore an inferior QB back him up is an easy way to lose a winnable game.

6. Dak Prescott isn't Troy Aikman.

7. It's more a matter of when and how they use him. The issue is inflated by poor play call and by having poor back up running backs. And that isn't even to say that Morris is a poor running back, he just doesn't make a good backup. He comes into the game cold and can't perform.

8. Reread what I said about the offensive line. I didn't say it was bad. I said it isn't the strength it was in the last couple of years. That will be an issue for this team if they don't get better. You see what you want to see here. They didn't open up large lanes for Elliott and he mostly had to make things out of nothing. Dak had the pocket pressed on him a couple of times. Sometimes it was the play call and sometimes the offensive line couldn't keep a clean pocket. Not bad, but not the imposing force I've seen from them.

9. The point was that Lawrence was excellent. I guess you missed that. I praised the entire line. Guess you missed that too.

10. Wilson struggled in coverage, and my anticipation for Hitchen's return isn't to replace Wilson. You assumed that. When Hitchen's returns, he'll still be playing middle linebacker and I expect we'll use Jaylon in a lot of different ways, including at the SAM.

11. Scandrick can't stay healthy. That's the big deal. Never said anything negative about the secondary as a whole. I said they overcame weaknesses and injuries... Do you even read what you respond to?

12. I literally did talk about the blocking on punt returns... If you read before responding, I might give you more credence, but at this rate I think you're just trolling.

 

[Galian Beast]

"Every time I see Morris in the game it reminds me we could have had Peterson for roughly the same value as Morris and McFadden combined."

About a million Dollars difference...not the same...not roughly the same...

A million dollars or 770k which is negligible... Nice try.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

A million dollars or 770k which is negligible... Nice try.

QUIT whining about something that was NEVER going to happen.

The Peterson train passed us back years ago.

NICE TRY!

While you are at it...just Quit whining in general.

 

[BigD_95]

While we did win, I hope no one is patting themselves on the back too hard after this one. Play like this isn't going to be
Offense
Passing Game
Dez Bryant continues to disappear when he is needed the most. Part of it is Dez not being the same player he used to be, but the other end is Prescott simply isn't as good as many people think he is. He's a good young quarterback, but he isn't elite, nor is he a gunslinger. Beasley continues to elevate his game. He is truly dependable.

Dak missed Dez 3 times for TD. Dez didnt disappear. Dak was off last night.

 

[Galian Beast]

Dak missed Dez 3 times for TD. Dez didnt disappear. Dak was off last night.

Dez has disappeared for a couple years now. Some of that is on Dak and particularly their chemistry, but he isn't the same player he used to be.

 

[Galian Beast]

QUIT whining about something that was NEVER going to happen.

The Peterson train passed us back years ago.

NICE TRY!

While you are at it...just Quit whining in general.

Gotcha, you were wrong.

 

[CWR]

Play like this isnt going to beat top teams? It just did?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Gotcha, you were wrong.

You said paid the same or roughly the same.

Unless you are floating in money from your eastern connections I am not sure how close to 1 million dollars is the same or roughly but you keep on touting that sillyness to support your silly argument to give you a silly way to complain about something that was NOT going to happen.

Ohh...they were paid close to the same...why did we not get him...IT was not going to happen. Get over yourself.

You were WRONG!

This is nothing more than a thinly veiled disguise to do what you normally do...belittle the team with back handed jabs and act like you care. You are a troll and always have been.