GB - Week 1 Quick Hits

[Galian Beast]

You said paid the same or roughly the same.

Unless you are floating in money from your eastern connections I am not sure how close to 1 million dollars is the same or roughly but you keep on touting that sillyness to support your silly argument to give you a silly way to complain about something that was NOT going to happen.

Ohh...they were paid close to the same...why did we not get him...IT was not going to happen. Get over yourself.

You were WRONG!

First, I didn't say the same, I said roughly the same. You keep trying to say I said the same because you didn't read what I wrote.

Second, you keep rounding 770k dollars to 1 million to make yourself feel like you were right about the difference in the pay.

770k might sound like a lot to you, but in the nfl that is nothing.

Fact is, he wanted to come here, and it would have been a perfect arrangement and our offense wouldn't stall every time Elliott came off the field. In reality you could run the ball more because you wouldn't feel like you had to overwork Elliott or bust.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

First, I didn't say the same, I said roughly the same. You keep trying to say I said the same because you didn't read what I wrote.

Second, you keep rounding 770k dollars to 1 million to make yourself feel like you were right about the difference in the pay.

770k might sound like a lot to you, but in the nfl that is nothing.

Fact is, he wanted to come here, and it would have been a perfect arrangement and our offense wouldn't stall every time Elliott came off the field. In reality you could run the ball more because you wouldn't feel like you had to overwork Elliott or bust.

Every running back and their grandma wanted to come here.. But it was NOT going to happen or Jerry would have made it happen. You know it is true but you keep using it as some lame excuse to knock the cowboys because that is all you know how to do.

FACT!

It did NOT happen...get over it.

 

[knightrider94]

Dak missed Dez 3 times for TD. Dez didnt disappear. Dak was off last night.

Perfectly reasonable take without the need to trash either player. Dak was off. Dez should have had a TD last night, but Dak was off. It'll get better. Week one is always a tough one. It was across the whole league yesterday.

It's real bad when you are in a sunken place after a win...

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

Dez was covered by Jenkins like a suit. This staff while moving him around needs to understand he is more TO than Drew Pearson. they need to get him the ball on the move across the field whether its drags, slants, deep ins. When near the Red zone back shoulder fades.

They did do this. On the first half possession we had inside the 5 he clearly beat Jenkins and was open but Dak sailed it high. On another possession he was slanting open and the pass was batted at the LOS.

 

[Galian Beast]

Perfectly reasonable take without the need to trash either player. Dak was off. Dez should have had a TD last night, but Dak was off. It'll get better. Week one is always a tough one. It was across the whole league yesterday.

It's real bad when you are in a sunken place after a win...

People assume too much. Am I happy we won? Absolutely. Am I in a sunken place? Certainly not. Do I think this team is going to beat top 5 teams playing like this? No. Do I think that we still could have lost this game if the Giants had a few lucky breaks or had OBJ? Yup.

 

[CWR]

The other guys get paid too, That Giants D is legit. Im really not sure what some expected but our offense grinded and defeated the will of that over priced Giant defense.

Dez fought all night and although the numbers werent gaudy he won his share of battles. Dak missed him a couple times also. However, Dak made plays and protected the ball. Alot of QB will look bad vs that defense. Dak held his own.

The much maligned defense was the story though. For all of you who had no hope for this defense and were already waiting for next season to make a run its time to wake up. Bad oline or not our Dline has talent, they are young and hungry and have not reached thier ceiling by a long shot. Jaylon is going to be a real difference maker playing along side Lee. Those two were flying around the field. Our secondary held up well also.

All and all the unit we worried the most about came out and dominated. Expect this trend to continue early this year as we take on some of the leagues weaker offenses.

 

[knightrider94]

People assume too much. Am I happy we won? Absolutely. Am I in a sunken place? Certainly not. Do I think this team is going to beat top 5 teams playing like this? No. Do I think that we still could have lost this game if the Giants had a few lucky breaks or had OBJ? Yup.

Sorry, but I'm not assuming anything...I just read every.single.one.of.your.posts...

Sounds sunken to me, but, if you say you aren't, we'll then, I believe you.

On to Denver.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You seriously read only what you wanted to read, whether it was there or not.

1. They wasted a time out early because they couldn't get the play call going. This eventually cost us 4 points or at least a shot at the endzone.

2. This was on top of the poor play call in the redzone. We went 1-4 for touchdowns in the redzone... That's not good for an "elite offense".

3. Killer instinct would have been putting this team away in the 3rd quarter after dominating them for nearly three quarters. The Giants were still in the game towards the end of the 4th despite having only two first downs in the first half. Great teams put teams away. You're a homer if you think that is us now or has been us in the last few years.

4. This goes back to play call last year as well as well as the play call in the redzone. We're entirely too pass happy in short yardage situations.

5. When Kellen Moore becomes an issue? Dak can be hurt on any play. And having Moore an inferior QB back him up is an easy way to lose a winnable game.

6. Dak Prescott isn't Troy Aikman.

7. It's more a matter of when and how they use him. The issue is inflated by poor play call and by having poor back up running backs. And that isn't even to say that Morris is a poor running back, he just doesn't make a good backup. He comes into the game cold and can't perform.

8. Reread what I said about the offensive line. I didn't say it was bad. I said it isn't the strength it was in the last couple of years. That will be an issue for this team if they don't get better. You see what you want to see here. They didn't open up large lanes for Elliott and he mostly had to make things out of nothing. Dak had the pocket pressed on him a couple of times. Sometimes it was the play call and sometimes the offensive line couldn't keep a clean pocket. Not bad, but not the imposing force I've seen from them.

9. The point was that Lawrence was excellent. I guess you missed that. I praised the entire line. Guess you missed that too.

10. Wilson struggled in coverage, and my anticipation for Hitchen's return isn't to replace Wilson. You assumed that. When Hitchen's returns, he'll still be playing middle linebacker and I expect we'll use Jaylon in a lot of different ways, including at the SAM.

11. Scandrick can't stay healthy. That's the big deal. Never said anything negative about the secondary as a whole. I said they overcame weaknesses and injuries... Do you even read what you respond to?

12. I literally did talk about the blocking on punt returns... If you read before responding, I might give you more credence, but at this rate I think you're just trolling.

1-3: You named events and put it on the coaching. Those are not even arguments. The TO was called because Dak's helmet speakers went bad. And you cannot even tell what plays were called and you want to talk about playcalling. smh.

4: On third and short last year the squad passed the ball 16 times for 13 YPA and ran the ball 33 times for 3.4 YPC. More front brain, less back brain please.

5. Dak was not hurt was he?

6. I was speaking to the gameplan. Aikman and Dak were both efficient and avoided mistakes. They play the same role in the gameplan. No one is saying they are the same player.

7. How and when they use him? Saying run/pass on any given down is not a discussion of playcalling. He had 28 touches and was used to close out the game. You cannot even articulate how you wanted him to be used. This notion that we could have done better against that defense that was near impossible to sustain blocks on reads like wishcasting and hubris. As it was Morris was getting hit in the backfield on half his carries.

8. They played better this game than they did last year this same team. It's more like you do not know how to adjust expectations for different opponents. You cannot even mention anything on particular they did poorly. That is a common refrain you talk about generalizations as opposed to how the game is played on the field.

9. You like to talk about the bad and gloss over the good. From your tone I would expect we lost 20-19.

10. He struggled in coverage. I can recall one play where he was beat down the sideline when he was isoed on Engram downfield. Outside of that he was never put in that position because of an excellent scheme and substitution pattern. He was great in his role. Hint: downfield coverage is not the SAM's role.

11. Scandrick tore his ACL and struggled to come back. This most recent injury is unrelated. Prior to the ACL, he missed 8 games in 7 years. Your whinging over nothing.

12. And exactly what is Switzer supposed to do when 2 defenders are right on top of him. You do note that Harris was doing the same thing on his 4 return opportunities right? I guess he sucks?

 

[Galian Beast]

1-3: You named events and put it on the coaching. Those are not even arguments. The TO was called because Dak's helmet speakers went bad. And you cannot even tell what plays were called and you want to talk about playcalling. smh.

4: On third and short last year the squad passed the ball 16 times for 13 YPA and ran the ball 33 times for 3.4 YPC. More front brain, less back brain please.

5. Dak was not hurt was he?

6. I was speaking to the gameplan. Aikman and Dak were both efficient and avoided mistakes. They play the same role in the gameplan. No one is saying they are the same player.

7. How and when they use him? Saying run/pass on any given down is not a discussion of playcalling. He had 28 touches and was used to close out the game. You cannot even articulate how you wanted him to be used. This notion that we could have done better against that defense that was near impossible to sustain blocks on reads like wishcasting and hubris. As it was Morris was getting hit in the backfield on half his carries.

8. They played better this game than they did last year this same team. It's more like you do not know how to adjust expectations for different opponents. You cannot even mention anything on particular they did poorly. That is a common refrain you talk about generalizations as opposed to how the game is played on the field.

9. You like to talk about the bad and gloss over the good. From your tone I would expect we lost 20-19.

10. He struggled in coverage. I can recall one play where he was beat down the sideline when he was isoed on Engram downfield. Outside of that he was never put in that position because of an excellent scheme and substitution pattern. He was great in his role. Hint: downfield coverage is not the SAM's role.

11. Scandrick tore his ACL and struggled to come back. This most recent injury is unrelated. Prior to the ACL, he missed 8 games in 7 years. Your whinging over nothing.

12. And exactly what is Switzer supposed to do when 2 defenders are right on top of him. You do note that Harris was doing the same thing on his 4 return opportunities right? I guess he sucks?

1. I named three things which our within the coaches purview to control. The helmet not working isn't a reason to use a time out. This is what you practice. Burning time outs cost you points, losing points, costs you games.

2. You're looking at 3 and 2 or less. What about 3rd and 3 and 3rd and 4? More and more we're passing in manageable running downs. It's something with a much higher success rate against poor teams.

3. And if he were? That's the point of the backup QB. It's an insurance policy and they went with a worse policy than was available.

4. You can't speak to the game plan without looking at the players.

5. Read what people write, I specifically said he should have been used in the redzone instead of passing three straight times. Elliott was getting hit in the back field too, but he makes things happen when he doesn't have much. Look at his yards after contact for this game.

6. The Giants didn't have OBJ. Would have been a different game with him. And they were still in this game in the 4th. We lost two winnable games last year against the Giants, and this could have been a 3rd.

7. That's all you're focusing on.

8. Hint a SAM often needs to cover a tight end, even downfield. What I said was he shouldn't be a starter and the quicker Hitchens returns the better.

9. Missed games isn't the only measure of health. Scandrick has dealt with injuries his entire career. You must be new here.

10. What did I say about switzer's blocking. Read it back to me.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

1. I named three things which our within the coaches purview to control. The helmet not working isn't a reason to use a time out. This is what you practice. Burning time outs cost you points, losing points, costs you games.

2. You're looking at 3 and 2 or less. What about 3rd and 3 and 3rd and 4? More and more we're passing in manageable running downs. It's something with a much higher success rate against poor teams.

3. And if he were? That's the point of the backup QB. It's an insurance policy and they went with a worse policy than was available.

4. You can't speak to the game plan without looking at the players.

5. Read what people write, I specifically said he should have been used in the redzone instead of passing three straight times. Elliott was getting hit in the back field too, but he makes things happen when he doesn't have much. Look at his yards after contact for this game.

6. The Giants didn't have OBJ. Would have been a different game with him. And they were still in this game in the 4th. We lost two winnable games last year against the Giants, and this could have been a 3rd.

7. That's all you're focusing on.

8. Hint a SAM often needs to cover a tight end, even downfield. What I said was he shouldn't be a starter and the quicker Hitchens returns the better.

9. Missed games isn't the only measure of health. Scandrick has dealt with injuries his entire career. You must be new here.

10. What did I say about switzer's blocking. Read it back to me.

1. Exactly how do you practice for equipment failure? You are intent on being unreasonable.

2. You said third and short so I looked at third and short. This notion that we didn't run the ball a lot last year is amusing at least.

3. If my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle. It did not happen.

4. Then speak about the players instead of giving throwaway lines. Dak has the tools to perform the same role in the gameplan. It won us 3 titles. Deal with it.

5. So you want to say that playcalling was bad on the strength on less than 3% of plays called. Got it. OF course you assume your plan would've worked. It's typical nonsense.

6. They were down more than two scores in the 4th. That is not in the game at all. I think you mistake your emotional disposition for reality.

7. You would have a point if there were not other people in this thread calling you out for your negativity. Try some introspection.

8. SAM needs to cover the TE downfield in this scheme? The only reason why he was isoed on him was because Engram ran to the flat first before turning upfield. The SAM for the past several years covers the strongside flat and jams off the line. This is just more proof you don't really see what is going on on the field.

9. It helps to talk about what previous injuries have plagued him; notice how I talked about specific injuries. I won't be holding my breath.

10. What you also said was the Switzer gave nothing on returns. Which return do you think he should have not fair caught? Or you just going to stick with the generalized whine?

 

[Galian Beast]

1. Exactly how do you practice for equipment failure? You are intent on being unreasonable.

2. You said third and short so I looked at third and short. This notion that we didn't run the ball a lot last year is amusing at least.

3. If my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle. It did not happen.

4. Then speak about the players instead of giving throwaway lines. Dak has the tools to perform the same role in the gameplan. It won us 3 titles. Deal with it.

5. So you want to say that playcalling was bad on the strength on less than 3% of plays called. Got it. OF course you assume your plan would've worked. It's typical nonsense.

6. They were down more than two scores in the 4th. That is not in the game at all. I think you mistake your emotional disposition for reality.

7. You would have a point if there were not other people in this thread calling you out for your negativity. Try some introspection.

8. SAM needs to cover the TE downfield in this scheme? The only reason why he was isoed on him was because Engram ran to the flat first before turning upfield. The SAM for the past several years covers the strongside flat and jams off the line. This is just more proof you don't really see what is going on on the field.

9. It helps to talk about what previous injuries have plagued him; notice how I talked about specific injuries. I won't be holding my breath.

10. What you also said was the Switzer gave nothing on returns. Which return do you think he should have not fair caught? Or you just going to stick with the generalized whine?

1. It's called being prepared... you know before the fact...

2. You didn't look at anything else, because you couldn't run a quick google search for 3rd and 3...

3. See #1... You must not be familiar with the term preparation. It means being ready for something in the eventuality that it happens...

4. Dak has the same tools as Troy Aikman? Good one.

5. When does play calling matter the most? In the redzone. Yeah, that was bad play calling and it could have cost us the game.

6. Two scores in the 4th? You've never seen a team score twice in one quarter? Interesting...

7. You're all what we call homers... Who can't see the negative on top of the positive. It's all cherries and gum drops in your eyes.

8. When they play man coverage, you'll see a SAM take a tight end up the field when it calls for it.

9. http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/orlando-scandrick-player-injuries

http://www.kffl.com/player/18370/nfl/injury_history/orlando-scandrick

http://www.kffl.com/player/18370/nfl/injury_history/orlando-scandrick

10. I saw nothing from Switzer on kick returns that made me think that he will be a weapon on punt returns, especially with our blocking. He doesn't have the speed, size, or elusiveness.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Jaylon......dang Mcclay give yourself another pat on the back

I think pretty much everyone knew of Jaylon Smith's talent. McClay didn't find a diamond in the rough with Jaylon. I wouldn't credit McClay with the Jaylon Smith pick. McClay gets tons of credit for Anthony Brown, Frazier, Rico, Green, etc. That credit for Jaylon would go to Jerry and Stephen for taking him early in the second round before others were going to take him. McClay and Garrett might have had input but I'd say Jerry and Stephen get the pat on the back for this pick.

 

[bud914]

AP's annual salary is 3.5 million.

Morris is 1.75 million.
McFadden is 980k.

2.73 million versus 3.5 million.

Doesn't mean AP would come here to be a backup. Why do people always assume we can just sign anybody we want for X amount of dollars and play them however we want? Players look for the right opportunity along with the money.

 

[Galian Beast]

Doesn't mean AP would come here to be a backup. Why do people always assume we can just sign anybody we want for X amount of dollars and play them however we want? Players look for the right opportunity along with the money.

AP said he wanted to come here on multiple occasions. He is a backup in New Orleans. We're a better team than they are and we have a better offensive line...

If you can make an argument as to why New Orleans makes more sense than Dallas, by all means...

 

[bud914]

AP said he wanted to come here on multiple occasions. He is a backup in New Orleans. We're a better team than they are and we have a better offensive line...

If you can make an argument as to why New Orleans makes more sense than Dallas, by all means...

yes NO needed a backup. we have 2 for less money than their 1. with the Zeke situation we did the right thing keeping the 2 backs IMO....

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

1. It's called being prepared... you know before the fact...

2. You didn't look at anything else, because you couldn't run a quick google search for 3rd and 3...

3. See #1... You must not be familiar with the term preparation. It means being ready for something in the eventuality that it happens...

4. Dak has the same tools as Troy Aikman? Good one.

5. When does play calling matter the most? In the redzone. Yeah, that was bad play calling and it could have cost us the game.

6. Two scores in the 4th? You've never seen a team score twice in one quarter? Interesting...

7. You're all what we call homers... Who can't see the negative on top of the positive. It's all cherries and gum drops in your eyes.

8. When they play man coverage, you'll see a SAM take a tight end up the field when it calls for it.

9. http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/orlando-scandrick-player-injuries

http://www.kffl.com/player/18370/nfl/injury_history/orlando-scandrick

http://www.kffl.com/player/18370/nfl/injury_history/orlando-scandrick

10. I saw nothing from Switzer on kick returns that made me think that he will be a weapon on punt returns, especially with our blocking. He doesn't have the speed, size, or elusiveness.

1. It only lasted for one play and then was not a problem. When it happens in the heat of the battle you are going to lose time assessing the situation. You are making no sense.

2. short is considered 2 or less. That is how the split is always done. I showed support for my case. You have nothing for yours.

3. You are fear mongering. It's boring.

4. He is accurate, makes quick decisions and likes to take advantage of medium range. He does not turn the ball over. His arm is not quite as strong but he is much more mobile and able to escape. He is efficient. Even better the game plan worked.

5. So you are going to double down on 3% of the plays. I am just going to laugh at you.

6. They needs two scores with 2 point conversions to tie it. Even then we ran the ball 8 times and had 3 first downs on the last drive milking their TO and near 6 minutes off the clock. YOu don't even know what you are arguing anymore do you?

7. There is no we. There is only you and I don't really care what you call me. Introspection is beyond you is all I see.

8. For the last two years when they played man coverage, Jones took the TE. You are without a clue. That is irrelevant as the only play he was isoed was a zone and the TE went to the flat first.

9. So a hand injury and ankle injury in 6 years leading to 4 games missed. OH NOES!

10. So you cannot think of what he could have done better. You talk in generalities instead. How boring.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

AP said he wanted to come here on multiple occasions. He is a backup in New Orleans. We're a better team than they are and we have a better offensive line...

If you can make an argument as to why New Orleans makes more sense than Dallas, by all means...

That was before we drafted Zeke ie when Joseph was the starter.

You are grandstanding on a name like this is Madden.

 

[Galian Beast]

yes NO needed a backup. we have 2 for less money than their 1. with the Zeke situation we did the right thing keeping the 2 backs IMO....

This coaching staff has not been overly enamored with McFadden and Alfred Morris has never really produced here. Neither were great options. Two bad options at slightly less money aren't better than one great option at slightly more money... The situation we find ourselves in is we actually have 4 running backs on the roster, and outside of Zeke, none of them are really where we need them to be.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

AP said he wanted to come here on multiple occasions. He is a backup in New Orleans. We're a better team than they are and we have a better offensive line...

If you can make an argument as to why New Orleans makes more sense than Dallas, by all means...

Because Nola wanted him and apparently Dallas did not.

Fact.

 

[Galian Beast]

That was before we drafted Zeke ie when Joseph was the starter.

You are grandstanding on a name like this is Madden.

I'm done arguing with you, you don't listen to facts.

Ingram is the starter in New Orleans...