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[Dave_in-NC]

Fair enough. It was just an analogy. Obviously the wrong one. At the end of the day. Something needs to happen. We have no linebackers no rb and our DL is now thinner.

Let me help make your day, it might be thinner soon.

 

[dallasdave]

Count me in. We need impact players.

AP at the right price. If he really wants to be a Cowboy he now knows that boys have a line they won't cross.

In other words no Murray like guarantee and probably a 3 yr deal tops

Sounds good.

 

[Alexander]

Don't hold your breath. Team is cash strapped.

So, what are you saying? We can't do whatever we want in free agency?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Count me in. We need impact players.

AP at the right price. If he really wants to be a Cowboy he now knows that boys have a line they won't cross.

In other words no Murray like guarantee and probably a 3 yr deal tops

If every thing Stephen has said about charts and graphs is true and that's how they are really calculating their RB moves, we are drafting one.

 

[Idgit]

Glad that's not going to happen. PPPPHHHEEWWWW I was really worried.

Peterson's obviously not on the market yet. I don't think we'd ever trade for him, but I do wonder that someone with that ability and star-appeal would be irresistible to Jerry. He's a better player than Demarco, still, and a much, much bigger NLF presence. Might be worth the nasty cap hit for a year or two in the mind of a 40 year old wild-catter.

Hopefully, though, we sit tight and find another good, young, RB. We win with Romo and the OL, anyway. And we desperately need a defense that can stop good offenses when we have to.

 

[mahoneybill]

No worries...I hear ya! I do have to say I love Philly cheesesteaks! I live in the Cleveland area and a guy who was born and raised in Philly moved to Cleveland and opened up a cheesesteak joint. He's back in Philly now but the restaurant is still there and owned by his sister. It's kind of nice having an authentic Philly cheesesteak without having to actually go to Philly lol

Do they use amorasano rolls ?

They are our favorite as to us that's as important as the meat.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Peterson's obviously not on the market yet. I don't think we'd ever trade for him, but I do wonder that someone with that ability and star-appeal would be irresistible to Jerry. He's a better player than Demarco, still, and a much, much bigger NLF presence. Might be worth the nasty cap hit for a year or two in the mind of a 40 year old wild-catter.

Hopefully, though, we sit tight and find another good, young, RB. We win with Romo and the OL, anyway. And we desperately need a defense that can stop good offenses when we have to.

Well Jerry admitted to wanting JF. That was overturned, (how weird is it to say that?) According to Stephen, AP is to old and used up.

 

[pjtoadie]

Do they use amorasano rolls ?

They are our favorite as to us that's as important as the meat.

Yes they do! He ran successful cheesesteak places in Philly before moving to Cleveland. Best cheesesteak I have ever had!

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Do they use amorasano rolls ?

They are our favorite as to us that's as important as the meat.

That's the problem in NC. The water makes terrible rolls and bread.

 

[Doomsday101]

Peterson's obviously not on the market yet. I don't think we'd ever trade for him, but I do wonder that someone with that ability and star-appeal would be irresistible to Jerry. He's a better player than Demarco, still, and a much, much bigger NLF presence. Might be worth the nasty cap hit for a year or two in the mind of a 40 year old wild-catter.

Hopefully, though, we sit tight and find another good, young, RB. We win with Romo and the OL, anyway. And we desperately need a defense that can stop good offenses when we have to.

I know people will say he is better than Murray yet the last season he played he got 1,266 yards was injured for 2 games and fumbled 5 times that season. he is a 30 year old back to claim he is somehow better right now is pure speculation.

 

[mahoneybill]

That's the problem in NC. The water makes terrible rolls and bread.

Ah you also notice the difference..,

Live in Fla and there's a guy who advertises authentic Philly cheesesteak. Asked him about the rolls and he admitted exactly what you noted.

P.S. Born and raised in Philly but life long Cowboys fan.

 

[Idgit]

Well Jerry admitted to wanting JF. That was overturned, (how weird is it to say that?) According to Stephen, AP is to old and used up.

Who knows, with this team? Definitely by that chart, AD is not a fit here. I think he's the kind of talent you throw out the chart for if he's a FA, but that's just me.

But some moves are football moves. Some are marketing moves. I'm willing to believe we've got control over the football moves based off of recent offseasons here. Marketing moves...that's another question. I think the lure of a young team and a new set of real triplets with Peterson's notoriety might just be too much for old Jerry to resist. Cap-considerations notwithstanding. He'd take a few million-dollar-year cap hit in order to get a boatload of press and attention for the organization if that boatload were big enough. You know he would.

And, actually, the more I talk about it, the more I think it might not be the worst thing for the organization. Bad for the squad relative to the cap, for sure, but that sort of spotlight has cache, even for us fans. It's the kind of thing that makes us America's Team and so much fun to love and hate, isn't it?

If we're being honest, we all secretly love the love and hate we get from the rest of the league.

 

[phildadon86]

Let me help make your day, it might be thinner soon.

As long as it isn't thinner then Felix jones hair we will be fine

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Ah you also notice the difference..,

Live in Fla and there's a guy who advertises authentic Philly cheesesteak. Asked him about the rolls and he admitted exactly what you noted.

P.S. Born and raised in Philly but life long Cowboys fan.

My parents owned a bakery in NY. When I moved here I would try to make pizza dough, bread and rolls. Same exact recipe's as my dads.
Never got close, he swears it was the water. Another baker I know in NC from NY said the same thing. Has to be something to it.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Who knows, with this team? Definitely by that chart, AD is not a fit here. I think he's the kind of talent you throw out the chart for if he's a FA, but that's just me.

But some moves are football moves. Some are marketing moves. I'm willing to believe we've got control over the football moves based off of recent offseasons here. Marketing moves...that's another question. I think the lure of a young team and a new set of real triplets with Peterson's notoriety might just be too much for old Jerry to resist. Cap-considerations notwithstanding. He'd take a few million-dollar-year cap hit in order to get a boatload of press and attention for the organization if that boatload were big enough. You know he would.

And, actually, the more I talk about it, the more I think it might not be the worst thing for the organization. Bad for the squad relative to the cap, for sure, but that sort of spotlight has cache, even for us fans. It's the kind of thing that makes us America's Team and so much fun to love and hate, isn't it?

If we're being honest, we all secretly love the love and hate we get from the rest of the league.

That's a two headed coin to though. No player is guaranteed to play injury free or produce at the high level they once did.
Imagine if we let Murray walk like we did. Bring in AP and he gets hurt out of the gate or we get AP that isn't near where some think he is.
Now you are back to it was a Jerry move and he'd be the laughing stock again. Especially if we let a draftee pass by hinging our bets on a30
yo maybe.

 

[Idgit]

I know people will say he is better than Murray yet the last season he played he got 1,266 yards was injured for 2 games and fumbled 5 times that season. he is a 30 year old back to claim he is somehow better right now is pure speculation.

It's ok if we just agree to disagree. It's easy to look at the numbers without a sense of what he was up against, but it wasn't until the end of the season that we saw Murray dealing with defenses that even resembled what AD runs up against all the time.

The fumbling thing, I'll grant you, is a big issue. And one of the big reasons I don't want to overpay for him.

And you're right that the actuarial table says he'd be too risky a signing. I know it's a double standard to apply that age and wear/tear argument to DM and ignore it for AD. I'd still do it, anyway, at a moderate price.

Basically, I believe there are measurements for comparing the two backs that aren't unpacked fully in the total yards data, and I think Peterson's 2013 season was proof to me that the guy is, physically, a rare athlete. I'd take the risk on him where I wouldn't on most other players.

But I completely understand why other people wouldn't. I don't normally buy arguments based on other posters' eye-ball tests alone, either. Just saying, if it's me running the team, I'd place a long-odds bet on AD any day of the week.

 

[Idgit]

That's a two headed coin to though. No player is guaranteed to play injury free or produce at the high level they once did.
Imagine if we let Murray walk like we did. Bring in AP and he gets hurt out of the gate or we get AP that isn't near where some think he is.
Now you are back to it was a Jerry move and he'd be the laughing stock again. Especially if we let a draftee pass by hinging our bets on a30
yo maybe.

How 'bout we split the difference and bring in AD, then trade down to the top of the 2nd so we don't reach for a pass rush player we don't love at 27, take the best DL option there, instead, and handicap the AD deal with a 3RB-4th round RB we wouldn't have spent a pick on, otherwise? All it costs is the difference between 27 and, say 37 in round 1/2 next month.

Seriously, though, as I said above, I do get the risk with AD and I get why a lot of people wouldn't take it.

 

[zack]

I agree. They arent doing anything. Maybe they pick up a spiller or someone, but im thinking they dont even do that.

We are going to start a Rookie next year...................................................how sad is that? I thought we were making a SB run?

But the FOs window is forever. Mine was the next two years. I thought they would load up a little?

They really do think Romo will play for another 5 years!

Why bother with Spiller? I wouldn't. Yes I'm worried about the Romo window but I think we will be fine.

 

[Hardline]

The next exciting moment we will experience is when the Cowboys are on the clock on draft day.

 

[Doomsday101]

It's ok if we just agree to disagree. It's easy to look at the numbers without a sense of what he was up against, but it wasn't until the end of the season that we saw Murray dealing with defenses that even resembled what AD runs up against all the time.

The fumbling thing, I'll grant you, is a big issue. And one of the big reasons I don't want to overpay for him.

And you're right that the actuarial table says he'd be too risky a signing. I know it's a double standard to apply that age and wear/tear argument to DM and ignore it for AD. I'd still do it, anyway, at a moderate price.

Basically, I believe there are measurements for comparing the two backs that aren't unpacked fully in the total yards data, and I think Peterson's 2013 season was proof to me that the guy is, physically, a rare athlete. I'd take the risk on him where I wouldn't on most other players.

But I completely understand why other people wouldn't. I don't normally buy arguments based on other posters' eye-ball tests alone, either. Just saying, if it's me running the team, I'd place a long-odds bet on AD any day of the week.

fine but again the last season he played was 2013 his play was not that great, is he better than a lot of guys out there? Yeah chances are to say he is better than Murray right now? I don't know that and people claiming get him and we are SB bound? come on, based on what? what he did in 2012? I have had people here tell me you don't give a contract based on what a person has done you base on what they will do and a RB on the tail end of his career who has not played in a year is not something I'm overly thrilled about.

Should by chance he get picked up of course I will pull for him to do good and to help this team but right now I'm not anywhere close to buying into AP greatness. AP in his prime better than Murray, I will agree 100% AP better today that is a guess at best.