Giant's matchup: When the Cowboys are on defense

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In case you don't know who the Giants are putting out there here is their depth chart.

http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/NYG

First thing that is apparent is that the Giants are going to have issues controlling the los. Richburg and to a lesser extent Pugh are talented but their oline as a whole is based on quickness and lacks power. WIth the exception of Flowers each of the OL has this issue. Conversely Flowers and Hart, the OT, are lead footed.

It's widely known the Giants cannot run the ball. They struggled to do so with Coughlin and under McAdoo the run game has gone in the toilet.

To counteract that the Giants run a WCO style short passing game relying on YAC for big plays. OBJ, Shepherd, and Engram are all extremely quick for their relative positions and elusive in space.

Of course OBJ might not be playing given that he is not healthy enough to practice. Nonetheless, he would hardly be the first star to take a shot for the pain and play effectively. If he cannot go the Giants are going to be that much easier to defend and struggle to score. He is the biggest X factor this weekend just by virtue of his availability.

Eli remains the division QB we love to hate. He has had big days against the Cowboys but not recently. Lately Manning has seen an erosion in his arm talent. He struggles to fit the difficult deep out and in while generally giving DBs a better chance to drive on the football.

He remains a smart player and they have adjusted. Upwards of 70% are on quick routes that see the ball out less than 2.5 seconds.

They run a steady stream of 11 personnel even though their blocking TE is talented. We are likely to be in nickel early and for the lion's share of the game.

Because of this good tackling is going to be that much more important than it already is. Recall, OBJ getting loose on a slant was the backbreaking play in game 1 last season. If we can end receptions at the catch then it is going to be a struggle for the Giants to move the ball and score.

While the meme is that pass rush trumps all, for this game it is going to be the underneath coverage that is going to dictate success. Unless Eli is forced onto his subsequent reads, he gets the ball out fast enough that even a free run at him is unlikely to get home.

We have been running a lot more zone this year and I expect that to continue into the regular season. Depending if we are in cover 2 or 3 dictates whether the CB or a S is going to be underneath but Lee, Smith, Durant, and Wilson are going to have to have success if the pass rush is to get home.

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Collins vs Giants interior line. We flip the DT depending on circumstance so it is hard to pin down one guy who Collins will be isoed on but regardless of who it is Collins will have the advantage because of his power. If he can control the middle we will control the los.

Mayowa and DLaw against Giants tackles. The behemoth OT the Giants trot out are susceptible to quickness. These two are the established players who are best equipped to take advantage. It will be interesting to see if the young Tapper and Charlton can draw blood here as well. Crawford doesn't matchup as well outside here and could see a lot of work inside.

Evan Engram and Sterling Shepard vs middle coverage. It is going ot be interesting to see how Marinelli handles this assignment. It is quite possible that we play dime and Awuzie is brought in to matchup with Engram. Scandrick faces his first test inside with Shepard. Regardless the Giants are going to do their best to get these two isolated on Lee and co. They need to step up.
 

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Byron Jones going to have to show his legitimacy is this one. Took a beating late last year after what I thought was a strong start to the season. As big Bill used to say, players show u something in year 3. Will be interesting to see if BJ does what we drafted him for: take out the TE. I look forward to seeing him step up to the challenge.
 

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Byron Jones going to have to show his legitimacy is this one. Took a beating late last year after what I thought was a strong start to the season. As big Bill used to say, players show u something in year 3. Will be interesting to see if BJ does what we drafted him for: take out the TE. I look forward to seeing him step up to the challenge.

Jones has been playing a ton of FS. I am unsure how the S are going to be used. Both guys can now play both S spots as opposed to years past when Church was exclusively a SS

Jones and Heath are always going to be important but between cover 2 and a rotation of assignment on cover 3 they are going to be back a lot. Eli doesn't attack down the field enough to make those two keys for me. I could be wrong and they use them a lot to iso the TE. Will be interesting to see.

In cover 3 though whoever is the underneath S could potentially have a big game.
 

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Byron Jones going to have to show his legitimacy is this one. Took a beating late last year after what I thought was a strong start to the season. As big Bill used to say, players show u something in year 3. Will be interesting to see if BJ does what we drafted him for: take out the TE. I look forward to seeing him step up to the challenge.

My god, but then we have Jeff Heath out there.
 

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Jones has been playing a ton of FS. I am unsure how the S are going to be used. Both guys can now play both S spots as opposed to years past when Church was exclusively a SS

Jones and Heath are always going to be important but between cover 2 and a rotation of assignment on cover 3 they are going to be back a lot. Eli doesn't attack down the field enough to make those two keys for me. I could be wrong and they use them a lot to iso the TE. Will be interesting to see.

In cover 3 though whoever is the underneath S could potentially have a big game.


absolutely agree. we now have safeties that can be interchangeable.
and though Jones will more often cover the TE.
we dont have to call one a ss and one a fs
this is something i believe is where the league is going
i like what are doing at safety, we will be harder to scheme against.
 

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absolutely agree. we now have safeties that can be interchangeable.
and though Jones will more often cover the TE.
we dont have to call one a ss and one a fs
this is something i believe is where the league is going
i like what are doing at safety, we will be harder to scheme against.

I'm looking forward to see how they are deployed moving forward. The Giants are not the dynamic threat where they can really shine but it will be nice to be able to disguise coverages for once.

Church was a great tackler and leader but it always frustrated me how limited he was.
 

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I'm looking forward to see how they are deployed moving forward. The Giants are not the dynamic threat where they can really shine but it will be nice to be able to disguise coverages for once.

Church was a great tackler and leader but it always frustrated me how limited he was.

And what is so unlimited about Heath? A 4th string, special teams ace that won the job by default because the 3 guys ahead of him on the depth chart signed elsewhere. Heath has been getting torched in preseason. Where is the ball hawking guy some have claimed he is? Heath is a liability. And his tackling is suspect.
 

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And what is so unlimited about Heath? A 4th string, special teams ace that won the job by default because the 3 guys ahead of him on the depth chart signed elsewhere. Heath has been getting torched in preseason. Where is the ball hawking guy some have claimed he is? Heath is a liability. And his tackling is suspect.

He has not been getting torched. There was a busted assignment and it is not certain it was him.

And every chance he has gotten in real games he has made plays. He led the team in picks despite taking time to crack the rotation. That is where he is.

Not surprising seeing you still do little else than bash the team though.
 

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Byron Jones going to have to show his legitimacy is this one. Took a beating late last year after what I thought was a strong start to the season. As big Bill used to say, players show u something in year 3. Will be interesting to see if BJ does what we drafted him for: take out the TE. I look forward to seeing him step up to the challenge.

Not something in year 3. Something BY year 3.
 

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He has not been getting torched. There was a busted assignment and it is not certain it was him.

And every chance he has gotten in real games he has made plays. He led the team in picks despite taking time to crack the rotation. That is where he is.

Not surprising seeing you still do little else than bash the team though.

Yah, you keep telling me that. Yet he was playing behind the hapless Wilcox riding the bench. I see him trailing the play, coming in late, getting burnt, or whiffing on a tackle. Were getting ready to find out.

I bash players that dont measure up. Im not one of those guys that waves his pom poms just because a guy has a star on his helmet.

You basically think everyone is great or they are a pro bowl performer just because they are a Cowboy. Great analysis on your part. At least when I compliment or like a player you know he is good and he has earned it. I dont base my analysis on hopes and whims. If Heath plays well, I will be the first to acknowledge.

So tell me................where has the play maker Heath been in preseason? Leading the team in picks? Getting torched by 2nd and third stringers is more like it.
 
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Yah, you keep telling me that. Yet he was playing behind the hapless Wilcox riding the bench. I see him trailing the play, coming in late, getting burnt, or whiffing on a tackle. Were getting ready to find out.

I bash players that dont measure up. Im not one of those guys that waves his pom poms just because a guy has a star on his helmet.

All you have to support your argument that Wilcox was ahead of him yet he outplayed Wilcox significantly when finally given a chance.

No one seems to measure up for you. It makes your takes meaningless as you lack objectivity.
 
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