Giants to start rookie at RT

[xwalker]

Yea tuck and his 2 sacks lol scary

Tuck's sacks for the past 5 years:
4, 5, 11.5, 6, 12

 

[arglebargle]

neither player was retired. they were unsigned free agents. do you have to be so dishonest to make a point?

And both of them were pro-bowlers relatively recently.

You could make the argument that the Cowboys were wisely trying to raise the level of their Oline, after the experiance of playing most of last year with their 4th string (and 5th sometimes) center starting. With both players having some connection to our Oline coach and OC. But that would obviously be foolish!

 

[Ren]

neither player was retired. they were unsigned free agents. do you have to be so dishonest to make a point?

Your best argument for our G situation being good is the guys we tried to sign technically where not retired at the time? well crap you sure told me i feel more confident then ever in our Gs now

 

[cowboys2233]

I'm licking my chops over whoever lines up against Diehl at guard. that guy is washed up and now playing out of position.

How about David Diehl's replacement?

"Giants announced OL David Diehl will undergo surgery to repair his unstable right thumb that will sideline him six weeks."

 

[cowboys2233]

How about David Diehl's replacement?

"Giants announced OL David Diehl will undergo surgery to repair his unstable right thumb that will sideline him six weeks."

Sorry, behind the times. I just saw that someone already posted. I am filled with shame.

 

[JohnsKey19]

The Giants OL will likely be down 2 starters in Week 1. The way it's looking now, the Cowboys DL will be down 2 starters. Call it a draw?

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Tuck's sacks for the past 5 years:
4, 5, 11.5, 6, 12

4 and 5 the last two seasons LOL . What am i supposed to be impressed ? he is washed up .

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Your best argument for our G situation being good is the guys we tried to sign technically where not retired at the time? well crap you sure told me i feel more confident then ever in our Gs now

my best argument is simply showing how you were making up stuff. there was no technicality about it. neither player had retired at the point we contacted them.

 

[Prossman]

Not looking good for the gmen......awwwwww!!!

 

[ThreeandOut]

you don't have to draft that many O linemen if you hit on a higher percentage then- what is it now with the Boys in the last 10 years?

Smith
Fred- hopefully
Free- depending on the year.

Out of how many picks on the O line?

The Giants have been able to use fewer picks because they have been better at picking.

Undervaluing the OL isn't the issue. The issue is they haven't picked them well. There were too many OL busts in the 2nd-3rd rounds from 2003-9.

 

[Idgit]

Not really sure what you are trying to say here, this team did try to sign 2 retired OGs this offseason yes or no? those fans and their overreacting huh? If you wanna stick your head in the sand and ignore every potential issue this team might have then more power to you, but don't try suggesting this is fans overreacting when the team tried to talk 2 OGs out of retirement and expect to be taken seriously.

Confused as to how you could not understand that post, but, yes, the team did try to upgrade it's starting RG. And I'm glad they did as their proscouts obviously thought those two players represented upgrades. How am I ignoring that? And isn't that the opposite of sticking your head in the sand? That's proactively trying to get better. The way they did at C and LG, too.

And, yes, I'm explicitly saying some of you guys are massively overreacting to the fact that we were unable to upgrade our starting RG and so may have to play the season with the same guy we played it with last year. And, yes, my measure of that overreacting was that it was comparable to how Giants fans reacted to losing a second OL starter for the first quarter or so of the season *this week*. There is such a thing as a degree of concern, and, for whatever reason, Dallas fans crank that degree up to 11 every time they hear the word 'guard' these days. Then they say you can't be taken seriously if you happen to think that '11' actually looks more like a '3' or a '4'.

 

[Denim Chicken]

The Giants OL will likely be down 2 starters in Week 1. The way it's looking now, the Cowboys DL will be down 2 starters. Call it a draw?

What 2 starters down on DL? Rat and Spencer?

 

[burmafrd]

Confused as to how you could not understand that post, but, yes, the team did try to upgrade it's starting RG. And I'm glad they did as their proscouts obviously thought those two players represented upgrades. How am I ignoring that? And isn't that the opposite of sticking your head in the sand? That's proactively trying to get better. The way they did at C and LG, too.

And, yes, I'm explicitly saying some of you guys are massively overreacting to the fact that we were unable to upgrade our starting RG and so may have to play the season with the same guy we played it with last year. And, yes, my measure of that overreacting was that it was comparable to how Giants fans reacted to losing a second OL starter for the first quarter or so of the season *this week*. There is such a thing as a degree of concern, and, for whatever reason, Dallas fans crank that degree up to 11 every time they hear the word 'guard' these days. Then they say you can't be taken seriously if you happen to think that '11' actually looks more like a '3' or a '4'.

and we are absolutely justified due to how lousy the O line has been for several years. You like to neglect that little FACT.

 

[Idgit]

and we are absolutely justified due to how lousy the O line has been for several years. You like to neglect that little FACT.

My kids think they're justified for overreacting when they don't get their way, too. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. But not every reaction is absolutely justified just because there's a reason for it.

I don't neglect the fact that the OL has been a problem for years. It was clearly the downfall of the team back in 2009, and was in desperate need of the overhaul it's in the midst of getting.

 

[JohnsKey19]

What 2 starters down on DL? Rat and Spencer?

Yes. I know the word out of Valley Ranch is they will be ready. But they are going to have to practice at some point. We're still a few weeks away but it wouldn't surprise me at all if these 2 miss a game or 2.

 

[Ren]

my best argument is simply showing how you were making up stuff. there was no technicality about it. neither player had retired at the point we contacted them.

What exactly did i make up Einstein? That we tried to sign 2 guards? we did, or that said guards are retired? If you wanna nitpick cause you're entire argument relies on that then yes Moore was not retired at the time Waters was, congrats you win. it doesn't make Livings and Bernadeau any better though

 

[dogberry]

Would it be unsporting of us to put Ware over the rookie tackle? I don't want to do anything untoward.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Would it be unsporting of us to put Ware over the rookie tackle? I don't want to do anything untoward.

Poo is a professional. Line up and play.

 

[cowboys2233]

Yes. I know the word out of Valley Ranch is they will be ready. But they are going to have to practice at some point. We're still a few weeks away but it wouldn't surprise me at all if these 2 miss a game or 2.

Yeah, since Spencer says he's not even running yet. How the heck do you go from not running to being in NFL game shape in three weeks? My guess is, you don't. Even if he's out there, he certainly won't be as effective as he might be later on.

 

[Corso]

Would it be unsporting of us to put Ware over the rookie tackle? I don't want to do anything untoward.

I'm reporting you to Mara.

The Cowboys are to be docked 2 draft picks!

And they must bring him ... ... ...

A Shrubbery!