Gimmesix's preseason Game 3 53-man roster

[Zimmy Lives]

Count me in as one of the folks who doesn't see Tanney being added to the final 53.

You are counted.

 

[Deep_South]

I guess the operative question would be, why was McGee a good idea and why is Tanney a bad idea? I mean, carrying a 3rd QB to develop is not something outrageous like carrying two long-snappers.

 

[Idgit]

We shall see if you are correct. And don't forget Stephens has shown promise as well and could push for a roster spot.

Stephens has looked pretty-good to me, too. But he's the type of guy you can find and bring into camp just about any season. I didn't see much special that would justify holding onto him. He's a guy you stash on your PS if you want a third option who's familiar with your offense in a pinch because you're going light at QB on your 53. I haven't seen anything special enough from him that I'd consider keeping him on my active roster.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I think we could keep 3 QBs this year if they think this is Orton's last year. I don't think that Tanny is ready today be the back up but I would be ok with them making him the back up. I don't think we go anywhere if Romo is hurt regardless who the back up is, so Tanny or Orton can fill that role IMO. Some may disagree and I get that but there are a lot of teams whose primary back up is either a rookie or a 2nd year player so it is not uncommon. At one time, NE primary back up was a 6th round pick, that turned out to be ok for them I think.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Stephens has looked pretty-good to me, too. But he's the type of guy you can find and bring into camp just about any season. I didn't see much special that would justify holding onto him. He's a guy you stash on your PS if you want a third option who's familiar with your offense in a pinch because you're going light at QB on your 53. I haven't seen anything special enough from him that I'd consider keeping him on my active roster.

Well, here's the key: If Dallas likes both Tanney and Stephens then maybe they do take the chance of losing one of them as long as they can sneak the other onto the PS. If they do choose to protect one of the prospects over the other, then we will know what they think about both of them.

 

[Idgit]

Well, here's the key: If Dallas likes both Tanney and Stephens then maybe they do take the chance of losing one of them as long as they can sneak the other onto the PS. If they do choose to protect one of the prospects over the other, then we will know what they think about both of them.

Yeah, I think that's definitely true. One of them, at least, would make it to the PS. I think the only open question is whether or not Tanney's got enough to merit a roster spot, and that's still an open question.

 

[Nirvana]

Tanney needs to continue to show something in the next two games to secure a spot on the 53. If he dogs it he won't make the final cut.

Thaddeus Gibson is a beast and plays like his hair is on fire. He will make the team over Wilber at DE. He'll show up again in these next two games.

 

[erod]

We shall see if you are correct. And don't forget Stephens has shown promise as well and could push for a roster spot.

Every team has Tanneys and Stephenseseses.

Throwing on garbage truck drivers and Home Depot clerks is different than real NFL preseason games. I didn't see a Romo in either one.

 

[erod]

Would you rather have Tanney or Anthony Armstrong?

Would you rather have Tanney or Phillip Tanner?

Would you rather have Tanney or Brandon Magee?

Keep him, and you've got to cut one of those guys.

 

[lurkercowboy]

I can't wait until - Tanney to Tanner touchdown!

 

[xwalker]

McCray isn't better than Frampton on special teams, or at least he wasn't last year. Frampton had 21 tackles on special teams last year to McCray's 18 even though Frampton wasn't with the team at the beginning of the season. He was clearly the better special teams player. That's not a knock on McCray, who is also good at it. I'd just rather keep the better player on ST and at safety.

I'm not sure some team would pick off Tanney if we waived him, but there is that possibility. He was out there for the grabbing heading into camp, though, and nobody snatched him up. Has his performance in the preseason changed that? Possibly, that's why I kept him on the 53.

Yes, they're basically the same player on Special Teams but Frampton is a better Safety and his salary is about half of McCray's.

 

[Nirvana]

Aside from the name Tanney, I think the concept of keeping 3 QBs on the roster makes a lot of sense. The league trend appears to be more injuries and guys going down. Having only 2 QBs on the roster appears to carry an unbalanced amount of risk versus the reward of an extra roster spot for somewhere else.

 

[Staubacher]

Yes, they're basically the same player on Special Teams but Frampton is a better Safety and his salary is about half of McCray's.

I love his way

 

[gimmesix]

Arkin is a lock for the 53. (That would have been an amazing statement a month ago.) For what it is worth, I'm not sure Wilbur makes the team. Selvie has shown more as Ware's backup, and the team keeps signing other defensive ends. That may be just due diligence, but it may be that they are still not satisfied with that position.

I think that's fair. I've been giving Wilber the benefit of the doubt that he'll be kept, but he needs to show more.

Gibson actually had a better showing Saturday despite just joining the team.

 

[gimmesix]

I don't Hamilton makes it to the PS. I thought I read a couple of teams were really after him after the draft.

I just don't think he's performed well enough to be claimed. He's a good hitter, but his coverage needs work.

I think teams that were after him were also expecting him to perform better than that. Maybe with some development, he will.

 

[gimmesix]

Well, here's the key: If Dallas likes both Tanney and Stephens then maybe they do take the chance of losing one of them as long as they can sneak the other onto the PS. If they do choose to protect one of the prospects over the other, then we will know what they think about both of them.

That could end up being the deciding factor. Stephens has shown a strong arm and Dallas might feel either has a good chance of developing. I like Tanney better because I think he sees the field/feels the rush better, but Stephens hasn't been bad when given opportunities.

 

[gimmesix]

Tanney needs to continue to show something in the next two games to secure a spot on the 53. If he dogs it he won't make the final cut.

Thaddeus Gibson is a beast and plays like his hair is on fire. He will make the team over Wilber at DE. He'll show up again in these next two games.

Not ready to make that claim yet, but I liked what I saw.

 

[gimmesix]

Would you rather have Tanney or Anthony Armstrong?

Would you rather have Tanney or Phillip Tanner?

Would you rather have Tanney or Brandon Magee?

Keep him, and you've got to cut one of those guys.

What's the difference, though, if Tanner or Armstrong is going to be inactive for every game? I doubt we'll have four RBs or six WRs on the active roster for games.

 

[gimmesix]

Yes, they're basically the same player on Special Teams but Frampton is a better Safety and his salary is about half of McCray's.

It appears to me that McCray has built a reputation around here as being some untouchable special teams player. He made the team because he's good at it, but his "free ride" only could last as long as he remained better at it than others at his position because he's simply not that good as a safety.
The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that Dallas was willing to pay what it took to ensure McCray was back this year while it let Frampton swim in the free agency waters for quite a while. (Of course, that might have been Frampton's choice as he hoped someone would pay him more.)

 

[xwalker]

It appears to me that McCray has built a reputation around here as being some untouchable special teams player. He made the team because he's good at it, but his "free ride" only could last as long as he remained better at it than others at his position because he's simply not that good as a safety.
The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that Dallas was willing to pay what it took to ensure McCray was back this year while it let Frampton swim in the free agency waters for quite a while. (Of course, that might have been Frampton's choice as he hoped someone would pay him more.)

Yes, my assumption was that Frampton waited around looking for the best offer.

The tender to McCray is not guaranteed, so the Cowboys didn't lose anything by offering it to him. They could probably cut him and re-sign him to the veteran minimum if they really wanted to do it. He would be a Free Agent, but I don't expect anybody to sign him at this point.