Give Eli Manning Some Credit

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Dude look much improved. Maybe it's been bad Tiki karma, but he looked much more confident, poised, and most importantly accurate. Sure, our pass defense played poorly, but he was on target all night long. He was finding receivers and hitting tight holes. Let's hope this isn't the real Eli or we're in trouble for years to come, regardless of what we do with our pass defense.
 

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He was very sharp tonight. Looks like he's grown as a qb.
 

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There weren't many tight holes to be hit. In general, guys just broke wide open, or settled down in a soft zone. Not exactly requiring laser-precision.

His pocket presence was fantastic, tho - but that's always been good.
 

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theogt;1632684 said:
Dude look much improved. Maybe it's been bad Tiki karma, but he looked much more confident, poised, and most importantly accurate. Sure, our pass defense played poorly, but he was on target all night long. He was finding receivers and hitting tight holes. Let's hope this isn't the real Eli or we're in trouble for years to come, regardless of what we do with our pass defense.

Eli played great. This had a pure offensive feel from the get go. So, I am going to give the Cowboys (and Giants D) a pass.
 

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superpunk;1632698 said:
There weren't many tight holes to be hit. In general, guys just broke wide open, or settled down in a soft zone. Not exactly requiring laser-precision.
I disagree. He made numerous passes that amazed me that it was actually Eli.
 

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Sorry, I'll have to get back to you after I hear a status update on his bruised labia

LOL, I can just see him lying there whispering, "Oh, my labia....."
 

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theogt;1632684 said:
Dude look much improved. Maybe it's been bad Tiki karma, but he looked much more confident, poised, and most importantly accurate. Sure, our pass defense played poorly, but he was on target all night long. He was finding receivers and hitting tight holes. Let's hope this isn't the real Eli or we're in trouble for years to come, regardless of what we do with our pass defense.
The key with Eli (and any other quarterback) is to get pressure early. With a combination of mediocre to subpar play in the secondary and just not punching through the offensive line, that pressure didn't come until the second half.
 

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our defense looked a heck of a lot better with fat boy in there so yes give eli props.
 

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theogt;1632684 said:
Dude look much improved. Maybe it's been bad Tiki karma, but he looked much more confident, poised, and most importantly accurate. Sure, our pass defense played poorly, but he was on target all night long. He was finding receivers and hitting tight holes. Let's hope this isn't the real Eli or we're in trouble for years to come, regardless of what we do with our pass defense.

he had all day to throw on virtually every drop back, and that was multiplied by incredibly soft coverage

I guess he deserves some credit, but we're going to see alot of QB's hang 300 yds and 3 or 4 tds on us this yr if we dont play better than this

I'm just stunned at how poor they were

David
 

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theogt;1632711 said:
I disagree. He made numerous passes that amazed me that it was actually Eli.

A few, sure.

He wasn't making you go ooh. Just run some play action, and deliver to a wide open receiver with no pressure in your face, and an inept secondary downfield.

I'll have to see him against a real defense, I guess, to be more convinced it was anything more than just taking advantage of our dreadful play.
 

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I agree. The Giants 35 points had a lot more to do with Eli than it did our defense.
 

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Yeah, in lieu of the beating I wanted to see him get, I'll give him some credit instead. I'll give some to his line too, they held our D off most of the night.
 

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austintodallas;1632734 said:
I agree. The Giants 35 points had a lot more to do with Eli than it did our defense.

really hope your right, but I have serious doubt about our D now

what I saw tonight was really, really lousy defense

David
 

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superpunk;1632733 said:
A few, sure.

He wasn't making you go ooh. Just run some play action, and deliver to a wide open receiver with no pressure in your face, and an inept secondary downfield.

I'll have to see him against a real defense, I guess, to be more convinced it was anything more than just taking advantage of our dreadful play.
I just don't think you realize how tough it is to fit a football into some of the spots he was. The old Eli wouldn't have completed nearly as many plays tonight.
 

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superpunk;1632733 said:
A few, sure.

He wasn't making you go ooh. Just run some play action, and deliver to a wide open receiver with no pressure in your face, and an inept secondary downfield.

I'll have to see him against a real defense, I guess, to be more convinced it was anything more than just taking advantage of our dreadful play.
My exact sentiments. The few plays where we got pressure, Eli didn't look so great.
 

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theogt;1632684 said:
Dude look much improved. Maybe it's been bad Tiki karma, but he looked much more confident, poised, and most importantly accurate. Sure, our pass defense played poorly, but he was on target all night long. He was finding receivers and hitting tight holes. Let's hope this isn't the real Eli or we're in trouble for years to come, regardless of what we do with our pass defense.
I concur. I was impressed tonight.
 

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theogt;1632777 said:
I just don't think you realize how tough it is to fit a football into some of the spots he was. The old Eli wouldn't have completed nearly as many plays tonight.

I think you're easily impressed and want to feel that our defense isn't THAT inept.

I guess we'll see.
 

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superpunk;1632787 said:
I think you're easily impressed and want to feel that our defense isn't THAT inept.

I guess we'll see.
No, I was extremely disappointed with the pass defense.
 
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