Give me dominant DL over super star QB

[cowboyblue22]

missing your starting tackles makes a huge difference and the refs had something to do with the game as well and the chiefs def backs were pulling and grabbing all night

 

[McKDaddy]

I'd rather have an opponent who has both starting tackles out.

exactly. a healthy KC likely wins the game or at least its a heated contest.

unfortunately this was a year where the champ was simply the team who was healthiest.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

And again, this was not a playoff team prior to his arrival.

No, but they were 7-9 with a quarterback who threw 30 ints, one game he had 2 pick-6s in a game they lost by 14 pts. Had the 15th rated defense, not too bad.

Brady put them "over the top" but it's not like he took a 4-12 team to the SB...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

exactly. a healthy KC likely wins the game or at least its a heated contest.

unfortunately this was a year where the champ was simply the team who was healthiest.

That's true a lot of the time...

 

[McKDaddy]

That's true a lot of the time...

true but I don't remember the last time it was so one sided. may be forgetting one but it seems like its been a while.

 

[Creeper]

Let me preface this by saying this has nothing to do with Daks contract or his value.

Thinking of what’s won the last 12 years, I think it’s obvious, if you have a dominant defensive line, you can win more than with a super star QB.

Examples:

Giants - 08 and 11.
Broncos - 2015
Eagles - 2017
Tampa - 2020

The Seahawks first Super Bowl in 2013 and the Ravens in 2012 were also both won by solid-above average QBs at the time.

Offense only teams rarely win. Last years Chiefs are about the only team to do so. The Rams-Patriots game in 2018 was the ultimate defensive struggle.

So what this means for Dallas - you can’t win anything except maybe a 9-7 NFC East title until you get the DT spots shored up with real players.

There are no absolutes, but I tend to agree with this. Being dominant in the trenches is essential to winning the SB.

 

[KB1122]

No, but Brady won the game with only 201 yards passing, it's not like he passed the Chiefs silly...

 

[CATCH17]

Is TB winning last night with Jameis Winston?

/thread

Exactly.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Its alright to heap ALL the Prasie on Brady....not surprised. Heck, Brady did everything right? I stand with....the Team carried him too. That ain't absurd too me....dismissing some of his play this year is. He slung 3 Ints against GB. Can the D get some love too?

It is a team sport. But the difference betweenTampa being 7-9 in 2019 and super bowl champs in 2020 is Tom Brady. Thats just the fact.

 

[atlantacowboy]

From past accomplishments yes....but this was team that carried him as much as he carried them.....and they jelled during the playoffs, which is beautiful.

This was a 7-9 team before Brady arrived and put up 4600 passing yards and 40 TDs. Cowboy fans would be putting Dak in the HOF if he ever had a season close to the one Brady just had. Obviously he didn't do it alone. That doesn't need to be said.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

?

 

[GMO415]

105.3 The Fan discussed this and they came to an unanimous decision "no way is anyone trading a starting QB in the NFL like Stafford for a Def beast like A Donald from the Lambs."

 

[Cmac]

This was a 7-9 team before Brady arrived and put up 4600 passing yards and 40 TDs. Cowboy fans would be putting Dak in the HOF if he ever had a season close to the one Brady just had. Obviously he didn't do it alone. That doesn't need to be said.

Not a problem...if you want to Hail all on Tom Brady for TB success this past year.....do it!!! I ain't. I saw a D that I wish we had. And this has nothing to do with the GOAT.

 

[Cmac]

It is a team sport. But the difference betweenTampa being 7-9 in 2019 and super bowl champs in 2020 is Tom Brady. Thats just the fact.

Then I guess for us....the reason for the bad on the 'Boys was Zeke and Jaylon.

 

[uvaballa]

Is TB winning last night with Jameis Winston?

/thread

If they only have up 9 points I think Winston could have won that game along with many other QBs.

 

[Kolemmitt]

I think the key to winning the Superbowl is to be a better team than the other 31 teams.

 

[Parcells4Life]

It is a team sport. But the difference betweenTampa being 7-9 in 2019 and super bowl champs in 2020 is Tom Brady. Thats just the fact.

Or it could be Suh and a 2nd year Devin White taking a big step. Brady definitely helped mainly by not turning the ball over like Jameis did but Brady doesn’t win the last 2 games without that defense. In fact he probably gets trucked.

 

[quickccc]

Let me preface this by saying this has nothing to do with Daks contract or his value.

Thinking of what’s won the last 12 years, I think it’s obvious, if you have a dominant defensive line, you can win more than with a super star QB.

Examples:

Giants - 08 and 11.
Broncos - 2015
Eagles - 2017
Tampa - 2020

The Seahawks first Super Bowl in 2013 and the Ravens in 2012 were also both won by solid-above average QBs at the time.

Offense only teams rarely win. Last years Chiefs are about the only team to do so. The Rams-Patriots game in 2018 was the ultimate defensive struggle.

So what this means for Dallas - you can’t win anything except maybe a 9-7 NFC East title until you get the DT spots shored up with real players.

so what about the cases with Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, Wilson, Montana, Young, Wilson, Warner, Ben Roth, .Mahomes,..etc. or do we still just wanna cherry-pick around those kind of QBs too ?

…The Rams Patriot 2018 Super bowl also starred big name starting QBs, .. the idea is that you want to Combine star QB play with a dominant or capable Defensive unit.

 

[EPL0c0]

Let me preface this by saying this has nothing to do with Daks contract or his value.

Thinking of what’s won the last 12 years, I think it’s obvious, if you have a dominant defensive line, you can win more than with a super star QB.

Examples:

Giants - 08 and 11.
Broncos - 2015
Eagles - 2017
Tampa - 2020

The Seahawks first Super Bowl in 2013 and the Ravens in 2012 were also both won by solid-above average QBs at the time.

Offense only teams rarely win. Last years Chiefs are about the only team to do so. The Rams-Patriots game in 2018 was the ultimate defensive struggle.

So what this means for Dallas - you can’t win anything except maybe a 9-7 NFC East title until you get the DT spots shored up with real players.

Ravens with Dilfer
Bucs with Johnson

the only QB option other than Dak is Andy Dalton, but even with a dominant Defense, I'm not sold on Dalton.

 

[quickccc]

Very true . Even the Broncos 97 super bowl was won with Defense , and Elway had to only throw like 150 yards all game .
This proves why dak at 35 -40 mil is a complete waste with the dallas defensive needs .

they had an elite running game with HOFer Terrell Davis. There wasn't anything dominant with that 90's Broncos defense.
it just had to be competitive enough to help give that team a chance at winning the SB's ...vs Dan Reeves Broncos version that got blown out of every SB game.