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Giving three years to a QB

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by waving monkey, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. Fletch

    Fletch To The Moon

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    But what about Kae.... ahhh never mind. :muttley:
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  2. CowboysWillRise

    CowboysWillRise Well-Known Member

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    Im not sure whats considered a strong supporting cast, or for that matter how many qbs actually get that luxury but I am sure Dak is about to finish his 32nd start so do we know what we have? Lol no, not really.

    Its not time to give up on him, but he doesn't need to be handed the job either. Bring in some more talent and let the cream rise to the top.

    Where exactly does this talent come from?? I dont care. When you dont have a proven qb it makes sense to continue to invest in the position until it is settled.
  3. DakPresgoat

    DakPresgoat Well-Known Member

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    Dak has played very well for 1 1/2 seasons. He has played poorly for 1/2 season.

    Of course he deserves a 3rd season.

    People with short memories forget that despite Dak’s very poor play the second half of this season he was playing very well the first half of the season.
  4. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    If Josh Allan or Baker Mayfeild is on the board I most certainly take one in round 1. Preferably Allan
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  5. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    Uh no he wasn’t. He was mediocre the first half of the season and became a bottom 5 QB in the second half. Dak slobberers were so focused on stat totals (which are meaningless to compare until the end of the season) that they didn’t even notice that he was 9th in passer rating, 22nd in yards per attempt and 16th in completion percentage... and that’s before Zeke went out. Since then he’s actually raised his completion percentage slightly (more dink and dunk) but every other metric has gone in the gutter.
  6. Wood

    Wood Well-Known Member

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    Dak had possibly the best OL & RB that any rookie QB has ever stepped into. The WR core was never a problem when Tony was QB so we have to assume they are sound group also. At some point, we just run out of excuses and come to conclusion that not players with great rookie season pan out. Dak definitely deserves to compete for starting QB but there should be competition and I dont consider Rush competition.
  7. Western

    Western Well-Known Member

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    During the draft process, collegiate QB's are the most analyzed & scrutinized imperative positions for GM's and the player personnel department - especially the in last 20 years due to free agency and salary cap.
    In the last 20 years, super bowl winning QB's drafted outside of the 2nd round have been only Tom Brady, Kurt Warner (free agent in 1994), Brad Johnson, and Russell Wilson.
    And the Buccaneers and Seahawks were defensive talented teams in which Johnson and Wilson were game-managers, not game-changers.

    If a team drafts a QB beyond the 2nd round and wishes to win a Super Bowl, they better believe that QB has at least the ceiling of a Tom Brady or a Kurt Warner.
    In Brady's 2nd full year as a starter, he won his 2nd Super Bowl. In Warner's 1st year as a starter, he won a Super Bowl.
    Do you all think Dak has the skill set of a 2003 Tom Brady or a 1999 Kurt Warner?

    The idea that a team can outsmart the rest of the NFL by bargain-based shopping for a championship caliber QB is naive.
    In other words, get your franchise caliber QB in the 1st round (the percentages of 'hitting' on the QB in the 1st round is much greater than in subsequent rounds).
    History sets the context for the present.

    If the BPA for Dallas is a QB in the 1st round, take the QB.
    Or move up in the 1st round and get a QB.
    But, Jerry will not do it.
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  8. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    Wish fans would give Chaz green 3 years.

    Doug free didn’t play until his third year and only played in a few games in 09 when columbo was hurt.
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  9. Wood

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    last year people were annointing Wade Wilson with basically performing a miracle by taking 4th round QB with minimal arm talent, poor accuracy in college and almost never took snaps from center and got him to play lights out in his rookie year.

    Fast forward to today and now Wilson is an idiot. Who is next, the cook at Star?
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  10. LocimusPrime

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    With some players can't you tell early on they got nothing. I thought devin street was junky his first year or let's take Chaz green.....does he need a third year for evaluation or do you kinda know that's he's janky.
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  11. Wood

    Wood Well-Known Member

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    Wish there were more posters like you on the board.
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  12. bodi

    bodi Well-Known Member

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    who you hiding ?
  13. starcity214

    starcity214 Well-Known Member

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    Haha... love it!
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  14. StarBoyz83

    StarBoyz83 Well-Known Member

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    Dlaw didn't hardly do anything in 3 years. Now everybody loves him lol
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  15. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Daks catching way too much heat around here anyways right now.

    He’s not going to be Tony Romo so get over it.

    The consistent 300 yard passing days are over.

    Dak can still be a weapon for us though but he is going to be a Russell Wilson type which means we need to beef the team up around him.
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  16. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    Wilson throws a terrific deep ball on top of the other stuff he does.

    Dak doesn’t throw the ball well short middle or deep.

    If the line is superior and the Runningback is not getting in trouble then Dak will have solid seasons. If he is asked to stand in there and play from behind and be an nfl level passer Dallas will be back to the 5-11 years pretty quick.

    I am hoping they take another qb and allow that player to sit and learn for a year or two before Dak’s deal is up.

    Right now the three most important positions in the organization are manned by Jerry, Jason and Dak.

    This leads me to have no expectations.
  17. black label

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    3 years? i need 3 minutes my record is perfection..hes garbage
  18. Zman5

    Zman5 Well-Known Member

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    Romo made JAGS like Ogletree look good. I don't think you can judge how good/bad a WR is based on how they played with Romo.

    Dez, Twill, and Bease all looked good with Romo then they all looked average in 2015. They all looked good with Dak in 2016 and bad again in 2017. So what does that tell us?
  19. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    He is on a dirt cheap rookie contract for 4 years.............he has played 2 of the 4 years............he has 2 years left.

    If he turns into a top flight QB, you franchise him or sign him to a long term contract............If he still is struggling, you let him walk and don't resign
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  20. Typhus

    Typhus Catching Catfish

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    Finally yes...
    Just put yourself in Daks shoes for a moment,
    personally, I would have been having cold sweats if I where in Daks shoes with his options,,, 2nd year! Jees the Romo camp gave hims like what,, 7 yrs plus more before the love fest.
    Give Dak some real weapons... got 1 with Zeke.. need a couple extras please.

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