Goodell expected to significantly increase Watson's suspension

[jwitten82]

Ahh, time to go for the old tactic of attacking the person rather than the facts.

I obviously never condoned Kraft's actions, but that's what you claim for the sake of fabricating an argument after your logic has failed.

Also for the sake of that argument you conveniently ignore that every single crime you lined out in your post was committed by someone other than Robert Kraft.

You and I don't have to like the fact Kraft paid for sexual favors, but there simply is no legal or logical way to claim Kraft recruited, transported and forced women to have sex to pay off a debt.

That's like saying if a guy

Whether he had complaints "before this" is irrelevant. The NFL suspension has nothing to do with "before this" or actions he's not accused of.

The fact remains, he had accusations or harassment or assault by 20-25 women, and Kraft has had none. You can't pretend that's equates to the same thing.

As for Kraft making problems disappear, that may or may not be true, but how can the NFL consider that without so much as an accusation by a party in a position to know? Words by a poster on an internet forum just don't qualify. Besides, even if he did make something go away, it was the act of paying for sexual favors, not harassment or assault. There was never even a hint or rumor that Kraft forced, assaulted or harassed anyone. That isn't legal, but it isn't the same as 20-25 women accusing a person of harassment or assault

Those women accused him, accusations don't make you guilty. Matter of fact two grand juries in Texas declined to press criminal charges for lack of evidence

 

[Creeper]

If I was in Goodell's shoes I would suspend Watson indefinitely pending the outcome of the civil trials. If Watson loses his civil trials it is not exactly the same as a criminal conviction but to the public it will be close - and 6 games will seem very light.

The judge who recommended 6 games gave Watson the baseline punishment of 6 games even though his behavior may be the most egregious non-violent behavior of any player before him.

Going back to Zeke's case where he was suspended 6 games, it was 1 woman whom the lead investigator did not believe. In Watson's case there are 6 women telling the same story.

 

[zrinkill]

again. super weird. did you skip over the parts about forced bj's etc? lol. you got it though my guy.

Saw none of that in the official charges ....... Is it a rumor or do you have a link to that charge?

 

[zrinkill]

lol - there you go again. Can't make a fact based argument, so you abandon the facts and just make up something to go after the person.

I am not attacking you ..... You made it clear you think what Watson is accused of doing is worse than Kraft
How am I misinterpreting what you are saying?

I have tried ending this argument and you keep quoting me.

 

[Corso]

What is "gropping"?

 

[zrinkill]

What is "gropping"?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gropping

Someone made a funny nickname the other day calling him the googly grooper and I liked it lol

 

[Corso]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gropping

Someone made a funny nickname the other day calling him the googly grooper and I liked it lol

Lol. That is funny.

 

[G2]

This whole thing just rubs people the wrong way.

 

[zrinkill]

This whole thing just rubs people the wrong way.

Wait until Kelvin Joseph gets suspended longer than Watson.

 

[OmerV]

I am not attacking you ..... You made it clear you think what Watson is accused of doing is worse than Kraft
How am I misinterpreting what you are saying?

I have tried ending this argument and you keep quoting me.

I didn't say it was okay to solicit sex at a sex slave shop - that's your nonsensical spin. I said Kraft paid for sex, but was not accused of assault or forcing anyone to do anything, and he did not traffic the girls no matter how much you want to make it out as if that was his role.

 

[OmerV]

Those women accused him, accusations don't make you guilty. Matter of fact two grand juries in Texas declined to press criminal charges for lack of evidence

I didn't say he was guilty, I said his accusations were not the same as Kraft

 

[zrinkill]

I didn't say it was okay to solicit sex at a sex slave shop - that's your nonsensical spin. I said Kraft paid for sex, but was not accused of assault or forcing anyone to do anything, and he did not traffic the girls no matter how much you want to make it out as if that was his role.

Ok ...... Watson is much worse that Kraft ...... I get it ...... I understand you opinion ...... Have a nice day.

 

[G2]

Wait until Kelvin Joseph gets suspended longer than Watson.

It was a massage joke.

 

[zrinkill]

It was a massage joke.

Damnit ....... The one time my mind was not in the gutter.

Sorry for jerking your chain.

 

[cmoney23]

Good.

He better.

Why?

 

[aikemirv]

He was visiting a Asian massage parlor that used sex slaves who were being forced to work there.
Not the same thing as paying for hookers.

My bad - I did not know the details.

 

[baltcowboy]

If I was in Goodell's shoes I would suspend Watson indefinitely pending the outcome of the civil trials. If Watson loses his civil trials it is not exactly the same as a criminal conviction but to the public it will be close - and 6 games will seem very light.

The judge who recommended 6 games gave Watson the baseline punishment of 6 games even though his behavior may be the most egregious non-violent behavior of any player before him.

Going back to Zeke's case where he was suspended 6 games, it was 1 woman whom the lead investigator did not believe. In Watson's case there are 6 women telling the same story.

Watson has settled all but one of the suits. I bet the last one is settled before tomorrow because the women’s lawyer has a press conference scheduled.

 

[J-man]

Two other courts in Texas threw out the charges for not enough evidence, so it wasn't just this judge

They threw out the criminal charges, sighting not enough evidence to prosecute. Meaning it was 50/50 if they would get a conviction and they wouldn't spend the $ trying.

She said in her 16 page public statement that the NFL proved he committed sexual assault as defined by the NFL and it's policies.

 

[zrinkill]

My bad - I did not know the details.

No prob man ...... That's one of the problems ...... The more you look into the cases involving the NFL Mafia owners the worse it gets ....... That's why I am shocked at how they can so easily turn the fans against players by screaming "salary cap" ...... When they are the ones who created it.
Bunch of crooks and thieves who punish players for minor stuff compared to what they get away with on a daily basis.

 

[jwitten82]

They threw out the criminal charges, sighting not enough evidence to prosecute. Meaning it was 50/50 if they would get a conviction and they wouldn't spend the $ trying.

She said in her 16 page public statement that the NFL proved he committed sexual assault as defined by the NFL and it's policies.

Well I think the NFL needs to release their definition of sexual assault. Why should his penalty be increased if the judge who looked at said 6 games was enough? Just because the public is crying?