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I am hoping that all of these injuries to our best cornerbacks is driving home the point to JJ that we have to go CB with the top pick next year. All I've heard since TNew has been out is how his presence is the most important in the defense. Henry is going on his third year with the Cowboys, and once again will not go a full year healthy. We desperately need a quality CB on this team that we can count on to come in, or to start, and have Henry available to come in.

I'm figuring that the Browns, even with their improved offense, still have a terrible defense, and will hand us a pick no lower than #8. I'm praying that at that pick, Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St., will still be waiting.

He is the surest thing to a shut-down corner in the 2008 draft, if he comes out. My thinking is that he will win the Thorpe award for best DB in college football, and Ohio St. will play in another prominent Bowl game. That should be enough college success for the 6-1, 210 Jr. from Piscataway, NJ to decide to turn pro. Not only does he have the skills to stay with every WR he's faced, he also has the speed, (4.3 in the 40). Imagine having a CB the size of Henry & the speed of Newman! With Jenkins on board, it won't hurt nearly as much if one of our top 2 goes down, and with Henry nearing 30, we're going to need to fill his spot soon, or at least have a much better player in the slot.

Any way you swing it, Jones, Reeves, Ball, & company aren't close to the pedigree of a Malcolm Jenkins. Plus, wouldn't it be nice for a change to have a quality player in the secondary without breaking the bank to get him?
 

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Cogan;1689892 said:
I am hoping that all of these injuries to our best cornerbacks is driving home the point to JJ that we have to go CB with the top pick next year. All I've heard since TNew has been out is how his presence is the most important in the defense. Henry is going on his third year with the Cowboys, and once again will not go a full year healthy. We desperately need a quality CB on this team that we can count on to come in, or to start, and have Henry available to come in.

I'm figuring that the Browns, even with their improved offense, still have a terrible defense, and will hand us a pick no lower than #8. I'm praying that at that pick, Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St., will still be waiting.

He is the surest thing to a shut-down corner in the 2008 draft, if he comes out. My thinking is that he will win the Thorpe award for best DB in college football, and Ohio St. will play in another prominent Bowl game. That should be enough college success for the 6-1, 210 Jr. from Piscataway, NJ to decide to turn pro. Not only does he have the skills to stay with every WR he's faced, he also has the speed, (4.3 in the 40). Imagine having a CB the size of Henry & the speed of Newman! With Jenkins on board, it won't hurt nearly as much if one of our top 2 goes down, and with Henry nearing 30, we're going to need to fill his spot soon, or at least have a much better player in the slot.

Any way you swing it, Jones, Reeves, Ball, & company aren't close to the pedigree of a Malcolm Jenkins. Plus, wouldn't it be nice for a change to have a quality player in the secondary without breaking the bank to get him?

I disagree. With a pick in the top ten, I think you have to pick a dynamic player. You don't want to solely pick for need. That gets you burned.

If Jenkins is available, and he's the most dynamic player available, you take him.

But if he isn't......you go elsewhere.
 

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I agree with both of you. I think we do need a CB, and he sounds nice (don't know much about him) but I also agree that we need dynamic players. However, if their are none left, then draft future stars.

Isn't it nice to be running out of places to start rookies? :)
 

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I officially proclaim this thread "premature."

We're 4-0 fellas...lets enjoy it mmmK
 

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Clove;1689932 said:
I agree with both of you. I think we do need a CB, and he sounds nice (don't know much about him) but I also agree that we need dynamic players. However, if their are none left, then draft future stars.

Isn't it nice to be running out of places to start rookies? :)

Rookies that could start for us:

Dorsey, Okam and McFadden, and even then it would take a few weeks to supplant Barber.
 

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Jenkins is a man up cover guy and that's what we need so i'd be happy with him in that 12-16 area. I'm still hoping the Browns go on a slide and we're top 10.
 

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Cogan;1689892 said:
I am hoping that all of these injuries to our best cornerbacks is driving home the point to JJ that we have to go CB with the top pick next year.


That's a pretty flawed way to look at it. Cuz our starters have been hurt we need CBs?


That would be funny if we did draft a CB with a chance to take McFadden, then our top 2 RBs got hurt next year.

Ok it wouldn't be funny.


You don't go into a draft thinking position. You take the BPA that is of value and of need. You don't take a player based on your biggest need.

And by the way, we'll need a RB next year too.
 

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Cogan;1689892 said:
I am hoping that all of these injuries to our best cornerbacks is driving home the point to JJ that we have to go CB with the top pick next year. All I've heard since TNew has been out is how his presence is the most important in the defense. Henry is going on his third year with the Cowboys, and once again will not go a full year healthy. We desperately need a quality CB on this team that we can count on to come in, or to start, and have Henry available to come in.

I'm figuring that the Browns, even with their improved offense, still have a terrible defense, and will hand us a pick no lower than #8. I'm praying that at that pick, Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St., will still be waiting.

He is the surest thing to a shut-down corner in the 2008 draft, if he comes out. My thinking is that he will win the Thorpe award for best DB in college football, and Ohio St. will play in another prominent Bowl game. That should be enough college success for the 6-1, 210 Jr. from Piscataway, NJ to decide to turn pro. Not only does he have the skills to stay with every WR he's faced, he also has the speed, (4.3 in the 40). Imagine having a CB the size of Henry & the speed of Newman! With Jenkins on board, it won't hurt nearly as much if one of our top 2 goes down, and with Henry nearing 30, we're going to need to fill his spot soon, or at least have a much better player in the slot.

Any way you swing it, Jones, Reeves, Ball, & company aren't close to the pedigree of a Malcolm Jenkins. Plus, wouldn't it be nice for a change to have a quality player in the secondary without breaking the bank to get him?

I have never heard of this guy, sounds pretty good.

However, it would be nice to finally draft some offense in the 1st round. It has been like 8 yrs or something that we have gone defense. I know we have another one, hopefully #32!!, but all the dynamic offensive players will be gone by then.


I am still having McFadden fantasies:D
 
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Hmm I don't know... I like the idea of drafting some kid out of Cal by the name of D. Jackson..aka young Marvin Harrison. I like the sound of Romo to Jackson..."TOUCHDOWN!!"
 

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what about Antione Cason, Aqib Talib, Terrell Thomas, Justin King, DeJuan Tribble, Dwight Lowery, Mike Jenkins, Reggie Smith or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie?
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1690023 said:
Hmm I don't know... I like the idea of drafting some kid out of Cal by the name of D. Jackson..aka young Marvin Harrison. I like the sound of Romo to Jackson..."TOUCHDOWN!!"

Young Marvin Harrison?
 

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Beast_from_East;1689983 said:
I have never heard of this guy, sounds pretty good.

However, it would be nice to finally draft some offense in the 1st round. It has been like 8 yrs or something that we have gone defense. I know we have another one, hopefully #32!!, but all the dynamic offensive players will be gone by then.


I am still having McFadden fantasies:D

I'm honestly liking Jonathan Stewart or Mike Hart over McFadden..........I also like Felix Jones.

I personally wouldn't mind drafting 2 RBs and letting both JJ and TT take a hike.

BTW, Anthony Aldridge from Houston runs a 4.29 40 but he is small 5'9 170.......maybe he can replace Thompson as our primary return guy.
 

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Biggems;1690047 said:
I'm honestly liking Jonathan Stewart or Mike Hart over McFadden..........I also like Felix Jones.

I personally wouldn't mind drafting 2 RBs and letting both JJ and TT take a hike.

BTW, Anthony Aldridge from Houston runs a 4.29 40 but he is small 5'9 170.......maybe he can replace Thompson as our primary return guy.


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Cogan;1689892 said:
I am hoping that all of these injuries to our best cornerbacks is driving home the point to JJ that we have to go CB with the top pick next year. All I've heard since TNew has been out is how his presence is the most important in the defense. Henry is going on his third year with the Cowboys, and once again will not go a full year healthy. We desperately need a quality CB on this team that we can count on to come in, or to start, and have Henry available to come in.

I'm figuring that the Browns, even with their improved offense, still have a terrible defense, and will hand us a pick no lower than #8. I'm praying that at that pick, Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St., will still be waiting.

He is the surest thing to a shut-down corner in the 2008 draft, if he comes out. My thinking is that he will win the Thorpe award for best DB in college football, and Ohio St. will play in another prominent Bowl game. That should be enough college success for the 6-1, 210 Jr. from Piscataway, NJ to decide to turn pro. Not only does he have the skills to stay with every WR he's faced, he also has the speed, (4.3 in the 40). Imagine having a CB the size of Henry & the speed of Newman! With Jenkins on board, it won't hurt nearly as much if one of our top 2 goes down, and with Henry nearing 30, we're going to need to fill his spot soon, or at least have a much better player in the slot.

Any way you swing it, Jones, Reeves, Ball, & company aren't close to the pedigree of a Malcolm Jenkins. Plus, wouldn't it be nice for a change to have a quality player in the secondary without breaking the bank to get him?

2 corners.
second pick in the first round and 2nd round pick.

Do your homework well and the 'Boys could have an awesome defense if Wade can develop the linebackers and defensive frontline the way I think he can.

Imagine that type of stifling defense. Shut down corners and aggressive line.
McFadden won't be around for us, not with Atlanta, Vikings, Bills, Rams, Dolphins and Raiders and Browns around. So, yeah, lets think corners for one of the top 3 picks.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1690062 said:
2 corners.
second pick in the first round and 2nd round pick.

Do your homework well and the 'Boys could have an awesome defense if Wade can develop the linebackers and defensive frontline the way I think he can.

Imagine that type of stifling defense. Shut down corners and aggressive line.
McFadden won't be around for us, not with Atlanta, Vikings, Bills, Rams, Dolphins and Raiders and Browns around. So, yeah, lets think corners for one of the top 3 picks.


Atlanta will draft a QB, not a RB if they pick high. Also, they have Jerius Norwood who has shown promise.

What the hell difference does it make if the Vikings are picking high? They just took Adrian Peterson this year. Why would they take McFadden?

The Bills just took Marshawn Lynch in this years draft in the first round. WHY would they take McFadden?

The Rams have a young Pro Bowl RB, Stephen Jackson, why would they take McFadden?

The Rams MIGHT take McFadden, but only if they've given up on the #2 pick in the 2005 draft (Ronnie Brown). It's more likely they'd go after a QB being that their starter is 38 years old and they have no developmental QB.

The Raiders are the only one on your list (that you threw out your arse) that might take him.

ANd the Browns? Did you even think before posting? I'll give you one guess what the Browns did with their first round pick in the 2008 draft. C'mon, it ain't that hard.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;1690023 said:
Hmm I don't know... I like the idea of drafting some kid out of Cal by the name of D. Jackson..aka young Marvin Harrison. I like the sound of Romo to Jackson..."TOUCHDOWN!!"
DeSean Jackson=Tedd Ginn Jr.

Please don't fall for the hype.
 

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dogunwo;1690082 said:
DeSean Jackson=Tedd Ginn Jr.

Please don't fall for the hype.

Disagree. ALthough I do agree DeSean Jackson is a bit overrated by people here, he's better then Ginn. Ginn was/is most a straight ahead speed guy. Jackson can make people miss.
 

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Rack;1690084 said:
Disagree. ALthough I do agree DeSean Jackson is a bit overrated by people here, he's better then Ginn. Ginn was/is most a straight ahead speed guy. Jackson can make people miss.
Maybe. But to address your other post. Miami, probably wont take a RB, but they aren't drafting a QB either. Jonathan Beck, their 2nd rounder from this past draft, is their developmental guy.
 

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dogunwo;1690087 said:
Maybe. But to address your other post. Miami, probably wont take a RB, but they aren't drafting a QB either. Jonathan Beck, their 2nd rounder from this past draft, is their developmental guy.

Ah, I didn't know they took a QB after all.


They'd likely be interested in Jake Long.
 
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Rack;1689977 said:
That's a pretty flawed way to look at it. Cuz our starters have been hurt we need CBs?


That would be funny if we did draft a CB with a chance to take McFadden, then our top 2 RBs got hurt next year.

Ok it wouldn't be funny.


You don't go into a draft thinking position. You take the BPA that is of value and of need. You don't take a player based on your biggest need.

And by the way, we'll need a RB next year too.

We should have drafted a CB & NT early on in the draft this year, due to the lack of quality depth. Reeves & Jones are top notch ST guys, but I doubt either one will ever be ready to take over one of the top spots when the time comes. Taking a great corner this year would have made it a lot simpler to take McFadden next year. I love the guy too, but he won't be there when we pick, and a very good one can be had in the 2nd or 3rd rds.

AFA all of that, "You take the BPA that is of value & of need" crap, that's just what it is. Besides, you just made my point. Jenkins is a great value at that point in the draft, & would certainly fill a need of solidifying the corner position. Isn't that what "depth" is all about-taking quality players until you have so many quality starters that you draft for depth?

Thankfully, we're getting to the point where some of our early picks will have to sit & learn. Just like another post mentioned, "Rookies that could start for us...Dorsey, Okam, and McFadden". What was he basing those picks on? The fact that we are thin at NT, and that McFadden would improve a fairly thin corps of RBs. Besides TT, who is there to come in should one of the two starters go down?

Think of it this way, would you take a QB just because he's the best BPA? No. With a young, Pro-Bowl quality QB in Romo, it would be a waist to take a QB to sit behind him. That is why you hire a veteran as your #2 guy to take over if an injury occurs. Get me?
 
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