Gotta Have & Don't Want

[L-O-Jete]

Don't really have a Gotta
Don't want Talib

 

[mperfection]

honestly there isnt much they can do to screw this up...we're in a great position almost no matter what we do...

I dont understand the anti- Felix Jones stuff...kid is very talented and fits nicely with what we need and what he can do on the field as a RB and KR...I'd rather not take him at 22, but if they do its clearly because they think he's still the BPA so I'm fine with it

would love to see us get Roy Williams, Boldin or Chad Johnson, but am pretty resolved to that not happening

And of course I'd love for us to get Darren McFadden...I think other than getting Roy Williams, nothing could be betetr for our team than him...he's the best player in the draft and is an explosive playmaker...he works his tail off and he's still only 20yrs old...

Cant really see them screwing this up in any way, shape or form...we have a loaded team and just acquired (great) help at the position we needed the most help at...we can draft the BPA's and be happy about it

David

Nicely done, David.

And I'm in complete agreement with you on Dmac. Sadly, I just don't see how we could acquire him under "reasonable" circumstances at this point.

 

[Stash]

Yes, you are. You are most certainly entitled to your opinion.

And I'm entitled to call your opinion infantile and moronic.

I thought that this site was against name-calling? Either way, that just shows ignorance and usually drags intelligent debate and conversation down to a lower level.

You--who isn't a scout and seems to have a divergent opinion from everyone who does this for a living--are going to bash a perfectly fine player because you have pulled out of your *** some arbitrary opinion that he isn't worth a first round pick.

I had a different a few years back too. When the team passed on Steven Jackson and tooke Julius Jones instead. Sorry if I don't blindly follow everything someone tells me.

Now I got to deal with years of people throwing temper tantrums like 5 years who didn't get the candy they wanted at Target and listen to them bash the team and an otherwise fine addition to the team. So your opinion becomes my problem.

So have your infantile opinion. But if you are going to broadcast it, I'm going call a spade a spade.

You can try to drag this thread as low as you'd like.

I don't have a personal problem with Felix Jones, despite your inferenece to the contrary. I have a problem with the Cowboys taking a career backup in the first round.

 

[cobra]

I don't have a personal problem with Felix Jones, despite your inferenece to the contrary.

Then you better not complain and whine when we get him. Because if we get him in the first, that's where he is slated to go.

A team cannot get a player of Felix's caliber outside the first. So if you don't have a problem with him, you better get over your arbitrary decision that you have a problem with taking him where he is slated to go.

 

[theogt]

Then you better not complain and whine when we get him. Because if we get him in the first, that's where he is slated to go.

A team cannot get a player of Felix's caliber outside the first. So if you don't have a problem with him, you better get over your arbitrary decision that you have a problem with taking him where he is slated to go.

When did it become a crime to formulate and vocalize your own opinion rather than just relying on internet scouting reports?

*sigh*

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Gotta have: Anquan Boldin

Dont want: Chad Johnson




Draft

Gotta have: McFadden - yeah I am buying all the hype

Dont Want: Felix Jones - some say he is like Julius.

 

[cobra]

To all of you who have so forcefully stomped your feet in the sandbox and said "nobody in the first who isn't an every down player":

Would you pass on Reggie Bush in the first?
Would you pass on Devin Hester in the first?
Would you pass on Dave Meggett in the first?
Would you pass on Eric Metcalf in the first?

I'm going to safely guess that the answers to those questions are "no" and that shows the arbitrary and capricious application of this "only every down players in the first" fiction.

 

[theogt]

To all of you who have so forcefully stomped your feet in the sandbox and said "nobody in the first who isn't an every down player":

Would you pass on Reggie Bush in the first?
Would you pass on Devin Hester in the first?
Would you pass on Dave Meggett in the first?
Would you pass on Eric Metcalf in the first?

I'm going to safely guess that the answers to those questions are "no" and that shows the arbitrary and capricious application of this "only every down players in the first" fiction.

Yes, I'd pass on every one of those in the first round.

 

[Stash]

Then you better not complain and whine when we get him. Because if we get him in the first, that's where he is slated to go.

A team cannot get a player of Felix's caliber outside the first. So if you don't have a problem with him, you better get over your arbitrary decision that you have a problem with taking him where he is slated to go.

What's the penalty for expressing my opinion?

What's gonna happen to me if I don't like the pick?

Will someone kick me out of the forum?

 

[Stash]

To all of you who have so forcefully stomped your feet in the sandbox and said "nobody in the first who isn't an every down player":

Would you pass on Reggie Bush in the first?
Would you pass on Devin Hester in the first?
Would you pass on Dave Meggett in the first?
Would you pass on Eric Metcalf in the first?

I'm going to safely guess that the answers to those questions are "no" and that shows the arbitrary and capricious application of this "only every down players in the first" fiction.

First of all, the only guy throwing a tanrum here is you.

You need to check yourself before you go attacking others.

And, for the record, yeah I would pass on those part-time players for a starter in the first.

I don't think the trip down 'revisionist history lane' really applies anyway.

 

[burmafrd]

Felix Jones is a backup and never draft a backup in the first.

A lot of scouts have been wrong about a lot of players over the years= so take your attitude and shove it.

 

[AbeBeta]

Man a lot of you have taken a stupid position with respect to Felix Jones.

There is no reason to not like Felix Jones on the Cowboys.

I like Jones -- not at 22 but at 28 he'd be good.

The "problem" I see with Jones is that he was about a 10 carry a game back in college - if that's what he did in college then he projects as maybe a 6-8 carry guy in the NFL. That's nothing to sneeze at -- a guy who gets 100-120 carries with a big average is certainly worth a first rounder. However, it does mean that we'd need another legit RB on the roster -- that makes his value, to me, slip a bit.

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

What's the penalty for expressing my opinion?

What's gonna happen to me if I don't like the pick?

Will someone kick me out of the forum?

There will be no more TV for your bung hole .

 

[cobra]

Anybody who states that they would pass on Reggie Bush, Devin Hester, Dave Meggett and Eric Metcalf in the first round because of some made-up asinine "only every down players in the first round" rule tells us all we need to know about such a person's knowledge of the draft and how to build a winner. Which is to say, they know nothing and should be ignored.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There are really two questions here. How do you not want in the 1st round, who do you want in the 1st round?

Who do you not want at all, who do you absolutly want?


I don't want Any RB in the 1st Rd if it is not Mendenhall or DMac. I want the best player available in the first round. Do not lock into CB, RB or WR. I covet Mayo.

I want Zuttah on our team. I do not want Manningham on our team.

 

[Stash]

Anybody who states that they would pass on Reggie Bush, Devin Hester, Dave Meggett and Eric Metcalf in the first round because of some made-up asinine "only every down players in the first round" rule tells us all we need to know about such a person's knowledge of the draft and how to build a winner. Which is to say, they know nothing and should be ignored.

There's a button for that.

Use it if you'd like.

My feelings won't be hurt too badly.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Anybody who states that they would pass on Reggie Bush, Devin Hester, Dave Meggett and Eric Metcalf in the first round because of some made-up asinine "only every down players in the first round" rule tells us all we need to know about such a person's knowledge of the draft and how to build a winner. Which is to say, they know nothing and should be ignored.

I gotta say... I dont understand the "everydown" theory OR even the "non-starter" which you hear alot of with Barber...

Dont we want productive players - which could be a player that DOESNT play every or most downs

Dont we want impact players - which could be a player that doesnt start (ie Barber)


I usually go for the quality of what they can give us... over the quantity... How many players rack up individual stats and dont win the big one or even win playoff games

 

[JonJon]

:bounce:: Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart, Ray Rice, Limas Sweed, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Mike Jenkins, Kenny Phillips


:yousuck:: DeSean Jackson, Andre Caldwell, Matt Forte, Steve Slaton

 

[theogt]

Anybody who states that they would pass on Reggie Bush, Devin Hester, Dave Meggett and Eric Metcalf in the first round because of some made-up asinine "only every down players in the first round" rule tells us all we need to know about such a person's knowledge of the draft and how to build a winner. Which is to say, they know nothing and should be ignored.

Fine. Ignore me for having a different opinion than you. But let's be real about who's being "infantile" here.

My philosophy, by the way, is that running backs aren't that valuable to a team. Rushing YPA has about the lowest correlation coefficient with winning percentage and scoring as any statistic out there. That leads me to believe that running game, as opposed to passing game, isn't that important for winning. Thus, running backs don't hold much value to me. If you can get a guy that can get 4.0 to 4.5 YPC, you're good to go (and you can get those guys easily in later rounds). The necessary correlation to that is that a BACKUP running back is of even less importance.

Again, that's just my philosophy. It's backed up by facts and logic. If that's "infantile" so be it.

 

[L-O-Jete]

Anybody who states that they would pass on Reggie Bush, Devin Hester, Dave Meggett and Eric Metcalf in the first round because of some made-up asinine "only every down players in the first round" rule tells us all we need to know about such a person's knowledge of the draft and how to build a winner. Which is to say, they know nothing and should be ignored.

Hester went in the 2nd and was considered a reach by most at the time, Meggett went much later so I guess every person involved with both those drafts know nothing!
NO SOUP FOR THEM!
RB fall in the draft and other than the Pokes and 1 or 2 to SD I haven't seen a single mock where he's picked by someone else, I say there is a high probability he falls off the 1st if we don't pick him...