Grade the Quinnen Williams trade

[Whyjerry]

This team is not making the playoffs this year. Jerry is still alive and continues his reign of terror. Hard to get excited.

 

[Whyjerry]

We never play that gap. We play almost exclusively B gap. Even Toia and Smith rarely played in an A gap this year

Wasn't Toia supposed to be the answer?

 

[darthseinfeld]

To see how Quinnen compared to Jaelen Phillips, I pulled up both their stats. Both of these guys are talent that is being wasted with their former teams. I then looked at what it took to land them. Eagles gave up a late 3rd round pick for a player on his rookie 5th yr option. Jerry gave up a projected mid-round 1st along with a 2nd round and Mazi. Jerry also inherited a sizable contract as well. Taking this into consideration and comparing stats, Howie got the best value vs Jerry, which isn't surprising. Jerry is always late to the bargaining table, and it shows again.

The two players and trades really arent comparable

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Impossible to say for sure until we see him on the field, but for the purpose of building a defense almost from scratch he's a perfect piece to trade for. A+.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Wasn't Toia supposed to be the answer?

We dont use a 1T. We play both DT's out of a B gap, essentially making them both 3T's

 

[McMicah]

It doesn’t matter. The Cowboys are losing talent faster than gaining it. How do people not see the cycle that we are entering?

Do people really think this will change our trajectory? Sure, a 1st for Williams in a completely isolated viewpoint is decent, but there’s literally 0 long term thought in this move.

All Jerry did here is appeal to casual fans to get optics up, but he’s sabotaging the teams future in the process, because he’s clawing for relevancy before he passes, and no one in the organization has the guts to say no.

Congrats, maybe we have a 6 win team now.

 

[baltcowboy]

We never play that gap. We play almost exclusively B gap. Even Toia and Smith rarely played in an A gap this year

I just looked up Williams stats for this season. We drastically overpaid. He has not been great since 2022. Williams is a second round pick at best.

 

[atlantacowboy]

This will go down as one of the dumbest trades of the Jones era. It makes no sense to give up a 1 first round pick and a second round pick for a 28 year old DT on a big contract in a season we have a 7% chance of making the playoffs. This just shows that Jerry still has no idea what he's doing.

 

[Whyjerry]

We dont use a 1T. We play both DT's out of a B gap, essentially making them both 3T's

I was being sarcastic

 

[Swagger]

I gave it a C+ but on reflection I think that's too generous.

I could be and hope I'm wrong but whilst Williams remains a fine player he is arguably already past his peak.

This season is already done. All the trade does for this season is to probably push the 2026 picks between 12-20 when they could have been top 10.

The Cowboys need a lot more depth on defense it's not a case of the team being one player away so the timing is weird and seems a bit desperate to overly compensate for trading away Parsons.

 

[JD_KaPow]

It's all so embarrassing.
We traded Parsons for Williams and Clark and about a half round move up in the draft. In no universe does that make any sense.

 

[Kwyn]

If you just look at players and picks, this is how the two big interlocked trades shake out.

We receive
Quinnen Williams
Kenny Clark
Green Bay 2026 1st - 670 pts (proj)
Green Bay 2027 1st - 670 pts (proj)


We give
Micah Parsons
Mazi Smith
Cowboys 2026 2nd - 460 pts (proj)
Cowboys 2027 1st - 1200 pts (proj)

So, we still lose overall and by a significant margin.

The only thing that allows me to rest at night will be the fact that we no longer know how to draft so the picks are less valuable than the player (Q).

Trading Micah was still colossally stupid but that’s spilled milk and with the way Jerry handled it, acting on feelings instead of football, it ended up being the only way out.

 

[Havic]

If you just look at players and picks, this is how the two big interlocked trades shake out.

We receive
Quinnen Williams
Kenny Clark
Green Bay 2026 1st - 270 pts (proj)
Green Bay 2027 1st - 270 pts (proj)


We give
Micah Parsons
Mazi Smith
Cowboys 2026 2nd - 460 pts (proj)
Cowboys 2027 1st - 1200 pts (proj)

So, we still lose overall and by a significant margin.

The only thing that allows me to rest at night will be the fact that we no longer know how to draft so the picks are less valuable than the player (Q).

Trading Micah was still colossally stupid but that’s spilled milk and with the way Jerry handled it, acting on feelings instead of football, it ended up being the only way out.

This is a big IF, but next season if Dallas spends and drafts well, we could have a playoff team again.

 

[Landryhat73]

In retrospect it would have been better to get Rashawn Gary instead of Clark.

 

[UncleRico]

A. We basically traded Micah, Mazi, a 2026 2nd and 2027 1st for Williams, Clarke, Tyler smith resign, Bland resign, Bengals LB, an extra 1st and better cap situation.

It’s a win.

 

[Cowboyny]

I just looked up Williams stats for this season. We drastically overpaid. He has not been great since 2022. Williams is a second round pick at best.

It was well known he has wanted out of ny for years has asked to be traded multiple times. Think we are going to see him re-energized here

 

[JD_KaPow]

A. We basically traded Micah, Mazi, a 2026 2nd and 2027 1st for Williams, Clarke, Tyler smith resign, Bland resign, Bengals LB, an extra 1st and better cap situation.

It’s a win.

It sure is a win...for the Packers and Jets.

 

[Flamma]

A big fat C. I like the player, I just think we gave up too much for him. He's not worth a 1st and a 2nd.

 

[TasteMyScythe]

We finally got a DT we can hang our hats on. I'm sure Williams is thrilled to death to get the hell out of dodge and to be reunited with Whitecotton...You know he's going to be hungry, and his enthusiasm and energy will lift the rest of the DL. Plus, He will demand double teams and that will allow the others to feed off of that.
For those of you who hate this trade, try to keep your cool and not be a d!ck to your woman or kick the dog while walking by.

 

[baltcowboy]

It was well known he has wanted out of ny for years has asked to be traded multiple times. Think we are going to see him re-energized here

Williams will certainly help the defensive line but my issue is we drastically overpaid for him. He is worth a second round pick not a first and a second. Jerry got desperate and we got fleeced. This could hurt big time in 2027.