Green Bay won the trade

[CalPolyTechnique]

Packers are now number one in their division. And one tie away from being tied with the Rams for the number one seed in the NFC.

They are also 5th in total defense and 9th against the run, but I heard Parsons was gonna cause to be a sieve.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Imagine being so weak you have to steal other people's posting style. I say she now it's "she". I said she slurps Ferguson she says I slurp schoonmaker (I've never been a schoon fan).

Now she's bringing up tj hockenson 2.0 lulz

Imagine how shook you have to be to say you’re ignoring my post but secretely keep reading them.

 

[stilltheguru]

She was so quick to post hardlines receipts but she wouldn't dare post me hyping up schoonmaker lulz. Imagine lying on the internet as a grown woman

Let's see who's shook. Different energy when daddy requests receipts lulz.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

She was so quick to post hardlines receipts but she wouldn't dare post me hyping up schoonmaker lulz. Imagine lying on the internet as a grown woman

Let's see who's shook. Different energy when daddy requests receipts lulz.

Luuuulz, this clown has been so busy supposedly “ignoring” me, he’s referencing my posts to other posters on other threads.

You will always be my subject boy. You respond to me because it makes you feel seen.

 

[stilltheguru]

That energy different with daddy lulz. Had that chest puffed out with other posters until I pull up

#thatenergydifferent

 

[FVSTONE]

Parsons is currently ranked 3rd in sacks with 12.5 . And he has made some big plays in key parts of games this year. Packers are a tie away from first place. And my instincts tell me they are my dark horse to represent N.F.C. in the Super Bowl if the Rams should fail.

Packers have enough beef up front that Micahs mediocre run stopping abilities are not an issue in their defense. They just needed someone who could come up with game changing pressures in key situations late in games.

And he has become that guy for them. The perfect icing on a cake. Packers are in win NOW mode. And they just might go all the way. While Dallas is stuck in the annual okie doke and "we'll git 'em next year" mentality.

Enough with who won the trade. You're talking about two completely different Teams, GM, HC, OC, DC, SC and Players. GB was a better team before the trade, and they're a better team after the trade. GB was going to succeed regardless if there was a trade or no trade at all. The Cowboys just don't have what it takes to be a successful playoff team, END OF STORY!

 

[diamonddelts]

Enough with who won the trade. You're talking about two completely different Teams, GM, HC, OC, DC, SC and Players. GB was a better team before the trade, and they're a better team after the trade. GB was going to succeed regardless if there was a trade or no trade at all. The Cowboys just don't have what it takes to be a successful playoff team, END OF STORY!

Oh yes sir. You got your two cents in. Now let's shut it all down per your request.

NEIN

 

[MapleLeaf]

As fans we need to stop accepting the BS that we can't keep adding talent to our roster when Jerry/Stephen cry about the cap.

I'm not an accountant, but the numbers don't add up on a high-level sense.

The franchise with the largest revenues year over year whines about being constrained by the cap while many other teams push the cap to the limit and beyond.

It's like the other teams look at the cap and management of the cap as a resource and the Jones' look at it like its the boogy monster with a spiralling path to hell.

The story we see on the surface as fans doens not explain the numbers. I don't believe that the money received by the Jones in Cowboys revenues goes back into the Cowboys.

 

[MapleLeaf]

There are people here who said Clark for Parsons straight up would have been a fair deal.

They would be wrong.

I wonder what the entire league and football fandom would be at the time of the trade and right now in early December if that was what had transpired?

Would we be the laughing stock and this be considered an even worse trade than the Herschel Walker deal?

 

[Kwyn]

They are also 5th in total defense and 9th against the run, but I heard Parsons was gonna cause to be a sieve.

This year he has a 30% edge run stop win rate, which is tenth. Last year he was even better.

That being said, while top DTs have a 40% win rate, only one edge has that high a score (Maxx Crosby). All the rest are 35% or below.

So, where does this bad rap come from? Well, people just straight up invent stuff and in this case, it starts with Jerry.

When Jerry was throwing shade at Micah in training camp, which is his decades old negotiating tactic, he talked about run defense.

Then, at press conference, he actually said that Micah could be neutralized by game planning the run at him.

Furthermore, he said that us stopping the run was going to be easily accomplished by Eberflus with his scheme.

The loyalists, desperately huffing copium, ate it up and asked for more.

It’s just further evidence of how little many fans actually know about football or are capable of processing what they see.

 

[Kwyn]

There are some left?

I can think of several right here at the Zone who are very vocal ride or die Jerry loyalists.

 

[Pass2Run]

Very true. Parsons is much more valuable on a D like the Packers who just need him for the one thing he does very well. As opposed to the Dallas D that needed him to be the savior.
You can't grade any trade that includes draft picks who haven't been drafted yet, LOL. Dallas can still come out fine, they just have to use the draft picks wisely.
I disagree with you on one thing - Packers aren't winning a Super Bowl either - they got the wrong QB for that. Love isn't the guy to take them there. I don't believe in him at all.
In a few years, neither the Packers or Cowboys will have won any Super Bowls. The Packers will be paying an aging and breaking down one trick pony a ridiculous amount of $, and hopefully the Cowboys have some good exciting players from the picks.

Flock Little Michael Parsons.

 

[Kwyn]

A couple months ago sure, but what salary cap space do they still have? Between Clark and Q the cap savings are pretty much gone already, no?

Next year, Micah, Q, Osa and Clark will all, each, count about the same against the cap.

Micah’s number doesn’t get insane until 2029, at which point they will restructure just like we are about to do with CeeDee, Dak and Tyler Smith

 

[Kwyn]

Currently the Cowboys have the 2nd most salary cap space available in the league. Last I heard (couple of weeks ago) they had around $96,000,000 available.

Next year we have the largest deficit in the league.

Q, Tyler Smith, Ferg, Luepke, Bland, Clark, Wilson are all big, new, money injected right into our cap.

Jerry and his people are just not good at this stuff

2026
Total Cap Liabilities: $363,977,251
Top 51: $345,515,430
Team Cap Space: ($47,919,066)

• Offense: $200,367,412
• Defense: $139,564,685
• Special: $5,583,333

You mentioned 95m currently, it’s much less than that

2025
Total Cap Liabilities: $284,533,360
Top 51: $230,215,117
Team Cap Space: $21,693,463

 

[Kwyn]

Everyone counts second team all-pro. Where did you hear this?

If a player is voted into the pro bowl but isn’t starting, do you petition Pro-Football Reference to take down his pro bowl designation?

That’s just crazy. 2nd team all-pro is usually a better player than a pro-bowl player.

Pro Bowl is 1/3 fan voting and as we’ve seen here, you can vote as many times as you want. Bots vote for pro bowl for crying out loud.

Clark, for instance, has made three Pro Bowls, all as an alternate or injury replacement.

He’s never made an all-pro team of any sort.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

That’s just crazy. 2nd team all-pro is usually a better player than a pro-bowl player.

Pro Bowl is 1/3 fan voting and as we’ve seen here, you can vote as many times as you want. Bots vote for pro bowl for crying out loud.

Clark, for instance, has made three Pro Bowls, all as an alternate or injury replacement.

He’s never made an all-pro team of any sort.

And why would there even be an official second team if we’re all instructed to ignore it

 

[Kwyn]

And why would there even be an official second team if we’re all instructed to ignore it

Anyone who would say second team all pro doesn’t count probably came to that conclusion simply as a way to diminish parsons. Whose claiming that?

 

[thunderpimp91]

Next year, Micah, Q, Osa and Clark will all, each, count about the same against the cap.

Micah’s number doesn’t get insane until 2029, at which point they will restructure just like we are about to do with CeeDee, Dak and Tyler Smith

Yeah the actual cap breakdowns are very favorable for Parsons, but even if you go by AAV which is all some care to acknowledge the money is still pretty even at this point. For a team trying to load up the next couple years Parsons contract is very lucrative.

 

[Shannon1]

Trade isn’t complete yet so how do you know this !

 

[mardwin]

Next year we have the largest deficit in the league.

Q, Tyler Smith, Ferg, Luepke, Bland, Clark, Wilson are all big, new, money injected right into our cap.

Jerry and his people are just not good at this stuff

2026
Total Cap Liabilities: $363,977,251
Top 51: $345,515,430
Team Cap Space: ($47,919,066)

• Offense: $200,367,412
• Defense: $139,564,685
• Special: $5,583,333

You mentioned 95m currently, it’s much less than that

2025
Total Cap Liabilities: $284,533,360
Top 51: $230,215,117
Team Cap Space: $21,693,463

How is this possible? This is the kinda of crap some people pull where there's no accountability.