Green Bay won the trade

[KingCorcoran]

If Parsons would have been signed by the Cowboys, they would have lost against both the Eagles and KC. The Cowboys were smart to get rid of a player who takes too many breathers during crunch time. The Cowboy's defense was much worse with Parsons than it is now. The current DC has to go, he doesn't have a clue on how to attack an offense.

Perhaps he’ll be better next year. Because he’s going to be with the Cowboys next season.

 

[zrinkill]

Only Jerry lapdogs and boot lickers ever thought differently.

 

[diamonddelts]

Si Senor!

 

[diamonddelts]

Very true. Parsons is much more valuable on a D like the Packers who just need him for the one thing he does very well. As opposed to the Dallas D that needed him to be the savior.
You can't grade any trade that includes draft picks who haven't been drafted yet, LOL. Dallas can still come out fine, they just have to use the draft picks wisely.
I disagree with you on one thing - Packers aren't winning a Super Bowl either - they got the wrong QB for that. Love isn't the guy to take them there. I don't believe in him at all.
In a few years, neither the Packers or Cowboys will have won any Super Bowls. The Packers will be paying an aging and breaking down one trick pony a ridiculous amount of $, and hopefully the Cowboys have some good exciting players from the picks.

Fine post. But you are hoping for good, exciting players to be chosen by the worst GM in the NFL?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Can we all agree that Micah wasn't helping our defense win anything important? And can we all agree that, for the most part, our defense has been much better with the guys we acquired?

Let's call the trade what it is: Mutually beneficial.

Not really, because we never saw how the defense would've been with Micah on opening day this year. We could've been at the same point that we are now. Jerry is just all over the place. One moment it is win now, the next moment it is build for the future.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

This. Also, as I correctly predicted, we lost. It's about what I felt would happen. I always felt St Brown wasn't that hurt. Knew he'd play. Yet we had fans running their mouth about him not being available. This was a classic Dan Campbell charade. Many got duped. They saved him for this game last week when they knew the GB game couldn't be won. As a precaution. Smart move. Last, watch us win the next 4 and get in the tourney. Anything can happen in front of us. It's a matter of us handling our business. The next 2 are very winnable. Then we gotta polish off the last 2.

The way I see it: We probably would've been mediocre with Parsons here and we are mediocre now, not going to the playoffs. In the age of mediocrity we've been here before, where the team overachieves a little during the season, still doesn't make the playoffs, and then pays for it in the post seasons being middle of the pack in the draft positioning. There was no plan for the trade. The trade benefits would've been to get nice picks to help rebuild. The second trade contradicted this by trying to make a run and somehow still get into the playoffs, and it failed with us now only having a 9% chance and probably will lose at least another game.

I enjoyed winning some of those games and last minute heroics, but ultimately I knew the odds were stacked against the cowboys.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Well, that’s what Jerry has told you. Reality doesn’t back it up though.

Micah’s RSWR was 5th last year (33%) across all edge rushers. This yeah he’s at 30%, which is tied for 10th.

Don’t know what to tell you if you think that a guy with three times the sacks tas our highest rated player through twelve games wouldn’t help, especially watching our inability to get to Goff last night. Parsons is second in the NFL in PRWR, only behind Myles Garrett.

Oh, and the money, his cap impact is half that of Quennen or Osa. Next year, all three will have about the same cap cost.

What’s done is done and we just need to move on, but it’s just wrong to denigrate Parsons’ when everyone outside of Cowboy team loyalists, see as one of the very best defensive players in the entire NFL.

Beyond that, we still have to see what Green Bay’s pick this year gets us before we can really call it done.

The problem is some people are judging this, because Jerry did a panic trade midseason to try to fix the hole that he created partially by trading parsons, and then we got good enough to win a few more games. But that is not taking into consideration that in free agency before the season, he could've made some moves to plug some holes on defense and have parsons. It's like I said, Jerrah is all over the place, one moment he does win now moves, the next moment he does build for the future moves, canceling out the benefits either of those options gives you, if you have a plan and stay course.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

There is no way to know who won the trade until after the draft.

We traded Micah for Clark and GB’s first rounders in 26 and 27. We have only traded away our own capital for Quinnen so it is not yet a 1:1 comparison

you can't judge the trade, without taking into consideration the midseason trade that followed, that cancelled out some of the benefits that made the original Parsons trade look more sexy. We traded away picks we got from the first trade and then the second trade caused us to win games, lowering the benefits the first trade still gives us because we are going to be drafting at a lower spot, and we still in all likelihood won't make it into the playoffs.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

It hilarious reading these comments in the vein of “Parsons being a one trick pony” kind of player. You read something like that and anyone that knows anything about football can immediately dismiss the brain a comment like that emerges as ignorant as hell.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

The problem is some people are judging this, because Jerry did a panic trade midseason to try to fix the hole that he created partially by trading parsons, and then we got good enough to win a few more games. But that is not taking into consideration that in free agency before the season, he could've made some moves to plug some holes on defense and have parsons. It's like I said, Jerrah is all over the place, one moment he does win now moves, the next moment he does build for the future moves, canceling out the benefits either of those options gives you, if you have a plan and stay course.

Great post.

There is never a strategic outlook and long term plan with Jerry other than “stir it up” and that type of carnival barking is always going to be in the moment decision making.

He has a real chance this offseason to put a SB roster together and I’m guessing he doesn’t even see it or have the first clue what to do if he does.

 

[john van brocklin]

Parsons is currently ranked 3rd in sacks with 12.5 . And he has made some big plays in key parts of games this year. Packers are a tie away from first place. And my instincts tell me they are my dark horse to represent N.F.C. in the Super Bowl if the Rams should fail.

Packers have enough beef up front that Micahs mediocre run stopping abilities are not an issue in their defense. They just needed someone who could come up with game changing pressures in key situations late in games.

And he has become that guy for them. The perfect icing on a cake. Packers are in win NOW mode. And they just might go all the way. While Dallas is stuck in the annual okie doke and "we'll git 'em next year" mentality.

This team is always next year.

 

[Rayman70]

The way I see it: We probably would've been mediocre with Parsons here and we are mediocre now, not going to the playoffs. In the age of mediocrity we've been here before, where the team overachieves a little during the season, still doesn't make the playoffs, and then pays for it in the post seasons being middle of the pack in the draft positioning. There was no plan for the trade. The trade benefits would've been to get nice picks to help rebuild. The second trade contradicted this by trying to make a run and somehow still get into the playoffs, and it failed with us now only having a 9% chance and probably will lose at least another game.

I enjoyed winning some of those games and last minute heroics, but ultimately I knew the odds were stacked against the cowboys.

We are always just barely good enough to garner attention until the rubber meets the road when bigger stakes are involved. Then the mask gets pulled off every time.

 

[Hawkeye19]

you can't judge the trade, without taking into consideration the midseason trade that followed, that cancelled out some of the benefits that made the original Parsons trade look more sexy. We traded away picks we got from the first trade and then the second trade caused us to win games, lowering the benefits the first trade still gives us because we are going to be drafting at a lower spot, and we still in all likelihood won't make it into the playoffs.

We didn’t trade any picks we got in the first trade.

We traded our 2nd round pick in 2026 and our own first round pick in 2027 for Quinnen.

GB made the move for immediate impact, Dallas for future impact.

The Cowboys should be evaluated on 2 things going forward:

1. What do they do with the money they saved by not signing Micah?

2. Who they draft with GB’s first rounders

That’s it. The Quinnen trade keeps getting dragged into the discussion and it just muddies the waters.

 

[big dog cowboy]

There are going to be a LOT of salty comments around here once the post season starts and we watch Micah go into game wrecker mode while our guys are off to Cabo once again.

When was the last time that happened?

 

[CarolinaFathead]

When was the last time that happened?

When did Parsons ever play on a defense that could effectively and consistently control the LOS no matter who they were playing?

Do you think being on a team that can do that MIGHT, just might, make Micah insanely more effective in a playoff atmosphere?

 

[Runwildboys]

We didn’t trade any picks we got in the first trade.

We traded our 2nd round pick in 2026 and our own first round pick in 2027 for Quinnen.

GB made the move for immediate impact, Dallas for future impact.

The Cowboys should be evaluated on 2 things going forward:

1. What do they do with the money they saved by not signing Micah?

2. Who they draft with GB’s first rounders

That’s it. The Quinnen trade keeps getting dragged into the discussion and it just muddies the waters.

I get your point, but I don't think they would have made the trade for QW if they didn't have a second 1st round pick.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

I get your point, but I don't think they would have made the trade for QW if they didn't have a second 1st round pick.

100% fact.

Jerry doesn’t roll like that. If Micah is resigned Jerry, and Stephen as well, would never make a boss move by then trading for Quinnen.

Wouldn’t happen. Wouldn’t even be considered.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

It hilarious reading these comments in the vein of “Parsons being a one trick pony” kind of player. You read something like that and anyone that knows anything about football can immediately dismiss the brain a comment like that emerges as ignorant as hell.

I guess it is okay to have a one trick pony, if it causes other teams to double team that pony. That is one thing people didn't take into consideration is that even when Parson's numbers were down, he was helping other people on defense getting their stats since he was being double covered.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

This team is always next year.

and always ends up being mediocre the following season somehow. We've been told the midseason trade makes us better next season; I'm betting we are mediocre again next season, since we seen this show before.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

We didn’t trade any picks we got in the first trade.

We traded our 2nd round pick in 2026 and our own first round pick in 2027 for Quinnen.

GB made the move for immediate impact, Dallas for future impact.

The Cowboys should be evaluated on 2 things going forward:

1. What do they do with the money they saved by not signing Micah?

2. Who they draft with GB’s first rounders

That’s it. The Quinnen trade keeps getting dragged into the discussion and it just muddies the waters.

The only thing that made the Parson deal look appealing was the combined picks of our own plus the ones we got from the packers, being able to do some major moves in the next two drafts. The two trades have to be looked at together too, not only because of the draft capital we got from greenbay, but also the first deal, made parsons to greenbay guranteed that their draft picks are going to be lower because Parson, who got player of the month awhile back, will increase their threat their winning percentage, while the second trade increased our winning precentage while probably not getting us into the playoffs. So now we have both our picks and the picks we got from greenbay be of lesser value and before we could've combined them, if we wanted to. So in the end, we are still mediocre, and next year there is no guarantee that the players we got from the second trade will make us better than mediocre.